Who here is proud to NOT have a black & red colored villain?
By
Adeon Hawkwood,
Posted on: 2011-02-27 21:14 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
Quote:
I believe you have to fight this guy to earn that title :|
Originally Posted by Violet Sorceress
I mostly have green villains oddly enough. Although Doctor Lady, the world's most nefarious cross dresser, only wears pink.
|
Quote:
Never done it? No. Tenevoy Ogon, my Fire/Dark Corruptor, started out with a black-and-red costume, and I'll use black or dark grey as a secondary color when I'm using various costume pieces to make them look like armor sections over a base garment (like the Imperial Stormtroopers from Star Wars); some of them have had red for the primary color.
|
Originally Posted by Schismatrix
It's certainly not me since i have used black and red in the same villainous costume at least once.
Still, who here can proudly say they haven't done it?  |
"But in our enthusiasm, we could not resist a radical overhaul of the system, in which all of its major weaknesses have been exposed, analyzed, and replaced with new weaknesses."
-- Bruce Leverett, Register Allocation in Optimizing Compilers
I do have red and black villains, and I have red and black heroes. My Warshade is dressed similarly to a Galaxy and is a villain since Going Rogue allowed side switching. Also she has a similar color scheme. The only red on her is her hair, and she's the villain I play the most.
Red and black is just so common because it's the archetype of 'evil'. The two colors blend well to be 'ooh I'm evil'. I've seen it on pure heroes, too.
ATs to 50 - TA/A Def, Nrg/Nrg Blaster, EM/EA Brute, WS,ELM/ELA Stalker
I've made villains. I've gotten them to 50. I've yet to put on in Black and Red!
Black and Lavendar. Black and Orange (and on this outfit I got many compliments). But never Black and Red.
However, I have had two MAYBE three (I can't remember if my Katana/FA Scrapper had a black/red outfit) heroes with a Black and Red Outfit.
My Katana/Regen Scrapper and my Fire/Fire Tanker, though my Fire/Fire Tanker had some white in the outfit as well, so maybe that doesn't count?
BrandX Future Staff Fighter
The BrandX Collection
I see intentionally avoiding a particular design as being just as limiting as intentionally overusing it, so I did eventually produce one I'd call red and black. He uses a butler outfit, but has black tech with red energy. Figured I might as well.
That said, I do take pride in not repeating myself (much) and not falling into the easy, obvious costumes that everyone else seems to have.
Just as a random example, a couple of days ago when going through the Praetorian Tutorial, I saw two completely unrelated people with almost the exact same "naked tiger" costume. This is the sort of thing which makes me sad. If I make a costume that someone completely accidentally makes almost the exact duplicate of, I'm doing something wrong.
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
|
Sometimes Black is just cool.
Rift-Dancer my main is Black, Dark Purple and muted Gold-yellow
Etherweb my Alt is Black and White, although one of her costumes is red and black because thats the colors of the super group I am in.
Wind-Spirit is Silver and Blue, with grey tones and metalics
And White Swan is White. Thats it, just white.
The Nemean Lioness is Gold tones.
Quote:
Why would I be proud of something as trivial as that? Seems kind of an elitist attitude.
|
Originally Posted by Schismatrix
It's certainly not me since i have used black and red in the same villainous costume at least once.
Still, who here can proudly say they haven't done it? |
Since my main villain was a poor businessman who wanted to be a superhero based on him growing up on Japanese sentai shows, I was able to do all 50 levels of Rogue Isles with a character who wears blue and white.
It's not something to take pride in, however, since GR allows me to play him as he was truly meant to be: a vigilante.
Current Badge Hunter: Plot Device (Rad/Thermal/Dark) - 1,268 Xbox Live: Friggin Taser
King of Electricity, Lead Inmate running the Carl and Sons asylum, the "Man" behind the Establishment, Given Honor in Hat Form By Paragon City (Favorite Forum Poster 2006!), Master of Ceremonies of the Fair Use Law podcast
Red and Black were good enough for Grandpa and they are good enough for you! You kids today with your fancy green and yellow.... Hey! Get off my lawn you punks!
I have heroes that wear red and black. They just look good together.
I was going to say I didn't have any red+black villains, but then I remembered my panda bear toon Princess YinYin who started as a character in my costume-award-winning arc Against The WickerWork Khan!* and then progressed to no less than three alts, a scrapper by the same name (villain), a stalker also by the same name, diff server (villain) and a blaster "Lone Panda And Cub"** (hero).
So I guess I lost right there, three times! Pairing red with her (usually the bolero) was just too easy I guess... I hang my head in shame. 
Maybe I didn't deserve that award after all.
*shameless plug of course, but required
**For extra points, guess what her 'shoulders' option is.
Actually. Most red and black tones work great because use different shades of those colors to balance easier than some. Also it's bold and with some of our tights options they can make things like the Thorn Patern really stand out boldly while others might not be seen.
Also when you use a Neautral like black, which goes with everything, it allows you to use red and another color without making the toon seem garish in color.
I am more proud not to have a Red,White and Blue colored toons, which all look amazing, it's just I see more flag-esque toons with stars and stripes than I do others. Not a bad thing, just not my thing.
I couldn't say if I have one or not but probably. I try to pick a different color scheme for each toon and costume and with like 40 toons that is a lot of costumes.
The tricky ones are the odd colors like purple, orange and violet. Not looking wimpy (or like Super Pimp) in a pastel colored suit is a challenge.
----------------------------
You can't please everyone, so lets concentrate on me.
Quote:
How so? One tiger pretty much looks like another.|
Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
If I make a costume that someone completely accidentally makes almost the exact duplicate of, I'm doing something wrong.
|
And that's ignoring the people who deliberately go for a uniform-ish look.
"Men strunt �r strunt och snus �r snus
om ock i gyllne dosor.
Och rosor i ett sprucket krus
�r st�ndigt alltid rosor."
Quote:
Me. Although I rolled a black-and-red hero only a few months after launch, before I knew it wasn't cool.|
Originally Posted by Schismatrix
Still, who here can proudly say they haven't done it?
|
--NT
They all laughed at me when I said I wanted to be a comedian.
But I showed them, and nobody's laughing at me now!
If I became a red name, I would be all "and what would you mere mortals like to entertain me with today, mu hu ha ha ha!" ~Arcanaville
Quote:
I disagree, [url=http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TropesAreTools]Tropes are not Bad[/quote]. There are a lot of character archetypes that get reused in stories and it is perfectly reasonable for people to want to use them to tell their own stories in CoX. In many cases particular archetypes carry with them certain styles of clothing which means that when two people use the same archetype they get similar costumes. For example, I have a DP/Storm Corruptor with a Trenchcoat and Fedora, I have seen several other Dual Pistols characters with a similar costume because it's a standard archetype.|
Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
That said, I do take pride in not repeating myself (much) and not falling into the easy, obvious costumes that everyone else seems to have.
Just as a random example, a couple of days ago when going through the Praetorian Tutorial, I saw two completely unrelated people with almost the exact same "naked tiger" costume. This is the sort of thing which makes me sad. If I make a costume that someone completely accidentally makes almost the exact duplicate of, I'm doing something wrong. |
So please remember that while you may prefer to avoid the standard archetypes entirely the same is not true of everyone. Personally I like to make characters who apply a twist to the standard archetypes (he's a hardened trenchcoat wearing bounty hunter... with magic) or combine two archetypes (she's a catgirl... in power armor) but in most cases even that has also been done before (the two examples I gave are influenced by Harry Dresden and the Kzinti respectively).
Oh yeah, my Cab Spider wears black armor with red trim. all hail Lord Recluse.
Hell my first ever level 50 HERO was clad in red and black before CoV was even in beta.
He started off Red and white, then each of his new costume slots has shifted darker and darker to match the development of his personality.
My first level 50 Villain ALSO wears red and black.
Ultimately my most overused color combination is Black/White/Gold though.
The vast majority of my costumes use a set color scheme..
Primarily Black, Secondary <Color>, Accents in White.
OR
Primarily White, Secondary <Color>, Accents in Black.
Sometimes I add a fourth color if I can get it to not look tacky.
Quote:
I think white also works pretty well.|
Originally Posted by Duncan_Frost
My only black/red toon is a Soldier of Arachnos, it's the only colour that really works on the uniform imo. (I shudder every time I see a bright pink/yellow/green one :I)
|
My Fortunata uses (the aforementioned) White/Gold/Black.
My Huntsman uses White/Blue/Black.
@Oathbound & @Oathbound Too
Still, who here can proudly say they haven't done it?
Please take this to Forum Games where it belongs.
Clicking on the linked image above will take you off the City of Heroes site. However, the guides will be linked back here.