How do I make my Peacebringer worth playing?

I have a level 50 peacebringer. He is level packed with my wifes toon. We leveled to 40 before I gave up playing him and ran another toon with my wife until she hit 50. Now that I have a PB leveled all the way up what do I do with him. Any suggestions other than deleting him? I'm not overly happy with how weak the class is compared to others.

Try the Kheldian forum down in the AT section

What I did was to play a PB who I didn't want to spend a fortune on, and I wanted to be effective, so I decided to go forms only, with human form only used out of combat (and pool power choices that reflect that like rez). Up the damage of the forms attacks by frankenslotting and using cheap procs (the lowbie KB set for example).

What I ended up with was one of the best tanks for exemping down to 20 odd (the team tend to give you 85% resists at that level now team mates give you bonuses in the forms) and few end issues. Team has a tank, you have a blaster that can tank if the tank goes down.

Mmm..

In general you are out of luck, the Epic AT is horribly pidgeon holed. When solo your abilities are so weak, its more annoying to fight with a PB than a Defender. In groups your mediocity decreases with the size of the group, but even in a full group your damage potential is a joke.

Grouping can be an issue, for unlike the red epics who provides a boost to the group, the BP yields nothing to the group and instead of being a boost they create added mobs for the group to suffer through.

I have spent lots of influence IO slotting up my PB, she is very survivable, but the fighting with her is simply boring for they do too low damge. My hardest hitting blast has very strong Knock Back which annoys the living daylights out of PBAOE using players, for I do a great service to the enemy by dispersing them.

Frankly, PBs are not worth playing, I made mine as a status symbol and be able to say I have one. But I seldom ever play it, in fact since I filled all my slots in Champions, I paid to transfer it to another server to never be played again.

Stormy

I agree with Stormfront_ NA
Best thing you can do with your PB is delete him, lol
Im joking, but I deleted my PB few days ago. She was 42, and I noticed I dont like her anymore. I hate KB when her best powers are in melee, also with an annoying KB effect.
PBs not my thing anymore.

Concept helps as well . I have a lvl 20 PB that is currently just sitting to get day badges but ya the KB can be annoying . The devs may tone that down at somepoint if they see that people are playing that AT less but my toon is still fun to play from time to time . Its a nice epic , just needs a tweak or two

There are many effective ways to play a Peacebringer, but due to the relative complexity of the AT and the number of powers avaiable, it's also easy to make a subpar build especially if your'e going into it blind.

I strongly suggest the OP post his PB build for us to examine, and it's likely we can make some suggestions to greatly improve his play experience. While Peacebringers as an AT do have some issues, they are (at least, in my estimation) a fun and versatile AT to play. I've never had a problem with the damage, so I'm not sure what people are talking about there unless they just had unreasonable expectations to begin with (it's not going to outdamage a Blaster, for instance, nor should it).

I see several people in this thread that have no idea what a Peacebringer is capable of, and probably haven't played one since the last round of buffs for them.

KB becomes KD when you're hovering above them in Nova form. Use it, love it.

Negating mez by switching into Dwarf? Thank you, sir, may I have another?


As others that like PBs have said, go with a Tri-form for maximum fun and flexibility. You won't find that any one form is great compared to more straight up ATs, but the whole package can be an asset if you just put a little thought into what you're doing. I've tanked in a pinch, I bring the range when needed, and I've got things like group flight and a heal just for giggles.

I love my Level 50, Alpha slotted Peacebringer. She is human form only and I play her pretty much like a scrapper. She still needs a lot of IOs before her build is finished but even so on one team another PB (tri-form) and I alternated taking out mobs of council. It was a lot of fun for us but left the other 6 people wondering why they were there.

I do agree that they are an aquired taste as is KB. I love KB and use it to keep groups together and if I screw up I run them down to finish them off. Or just hover above it all and have decent KD. Not to mention that KB can be an awesome form of damage mitigation.

The change I want? Make the photon seekers a cross between a warshade's fluffies and the electrical blast voltaic sentinel.

I played a PB as my main for almost a year and a half - loved her and lavished gifts in the form of accolades, purples, and other high-end IOs that Inf could buy. I always knew that PBs were supposed to be middle-of-the-road toons sorta of good at many things, so I was fine that I wasn't the best DPSer, Tanker, etc, as I felt that my worst aspects were better than other toon's worst

Gradually, as I played other toons, I came to realize that with Patron Pools, Vet Powers, and intelligent slotting, other ATs could easily fill in their 'weak spots. In effect, they could become Jack of all Trades *and* Masters of One. My Thugs/Traps MM, softcapped and providing protection/controls and damage to the team, easily outshines anything my PB can do.

My current Main, a Brute, just seems to bring more to a team than my PB can under any circumstance, with none of the unwanted extras (KB and Cysts, I'm lookin' at you).

So, I'll never delete my PB, but she sits in retirement, gutted of all her awesome goodies. Someday, if PBs ever get the attention they deserve, I'll deck her back out and make a comeback...

Till then, she only comes out for badges or nostalgia

Rum. Lots and lots of rum.

Also, my triform PB can do decent damage on a team that needs it, be an off-tank when required, and generally be fun to play if not awesome at anything in particular.

Still, i suggest rum. Lots and lots of rum.
Vodka will do in a pinch.

The only thing I wanna see done to Peacebringers is the Recharge for [Conserve Energy] cut down a lot so it becomes at least vaguely equal to [Stygian Circle].

Other than that I love my tri-form PB and still play her regularly. Yeah, she'll never be the best at anything, but to me this game has never been about efficiency but about flashiness, and if there's one thing my PB can do it's flash!

Wait that didn't come out right

Mmm...

I don't hate the game, while I do complain about certain mechanics of it, it does not mean I hate the game, what it does mean is that I accept a certain amount of responsibility in helping to improve the game.

Now I will confess, my remarks on the PB were rather harsh, but I still do stand behind them.

The PB concept when it first came out, lets face it, it was the first "epic" AT. That in itself is very significant. I can yield to the desire from the developers to craft a truly unique AT for this special reward for players who had attained the game's goal of level 50!

So the developers really had set the stakes quite high for themselves. That in itself is a great thing; nothing like a sense of challenge to be compelled to excell!

Now what was the Earth Shattering concept the developers came up, for such an "epic" new AT?

The simple truth, in paper, the concept was actually very awesome:

Lets create a truly versatile AT that could cover several AT roles in a pinch! So it could go into a Tanker mode if mob management was needed, or into a Blaster mode if the team needed more DPS.

If we stop for a moment and consider the above, there is only one word that could possibly describe the concept: "Wow" (and I don't mean the ultra-boring other in-line game)

So when the epic finally game out, I was like I could not wait to try it! This new alt, would certainly become my new main, after all think of how versatile it has been promised to be.

But as President Clinton once said: "The devil is in the detail"

The PB is truly a victim of: "Great idea, horrid execution"

While the developers did give the class some real beanies at the time such as free transportation powers and available at the get go, that was epic, a bit over the top, but ok.

So what went wrong?

The first disappointment was that in order to be a tanker, I had to convert to a tanker mode and my other powers, to include pool powers, would no longer be available.

The second disappointment was that in order to be a blaster, I had to convert to a blaster mode and my powers, to include pool powers, would no longer be available.

In human mode, I had no mez resistance, but I could turn to tank mode to break mez. Not elegant or impressive, but ok. This could have been done better.

But since this "epic" AT was an alien, a very cheesy background story about them had been made, the developers then handicapped the class by having them create and attract new mobs above and beyond those of the normal mission. These mobs, where equipped with a damage means that the player AT was scripted to be vulnerable, you know for flavor. As a result PBs were not always that welcomed into teams, specially lowbie teams where the various player ATs were not that strong and the struggle thru the mobs was challenging enough. I remember many a time, being refused a team, because I was a PB and often asked to bring other of my more traditional alts instead.

So these simple limitations went a long ways in limiting how good the epic AT could be, but the misery did not end there...

Because the developers wanted the PB to be a "team" player, for at the time the developers were nurfing many ATs' ability to solo to force group play, and the PB was not exempt of this doctrine and fell prey to it, and fell hard.

What the developers did was to weaken the damage of the PB, and then have the damage increase in proportion of how large a team. The effect was when soloing, the PB made a Defender look like a DPS monster, and when in a team of 8, with its DPS increased, it still was not comparable to a blaster, at best it was mediocre blaster. Same can be said of the tanker mode of a PB, sure its tougher than a Defender, what isn't? But its no where close to a Tanker or Brute potentials, I often consider a Scrapper tougher than most PBs.

So if we consider this for a moment, what do we conclude?

That the PB fits the saying: "Jack of all trades, master of none"

Still, the concept of being a "Jack of all trades" is still alluring, but! The real question is how less masterful were you?

Today, CoH has lijkely the very best teaming ability in the industry, and I played many games. So the odds of a team being tankerless or blasterless so a PB happens to come around and save the day, are essentially negleable.

Since I played and leveled up a PB, I feel sorry for many players trying to level a PB, and try very hard to avoid not letting them join my teams by fighting my own instincts to min/max my team to do a mission; because I frankly believe the PB is mediocre at anything it does, despite that it can do a lot of different things at an ok level of performance.

The problem with PBs in my opinion, is they are way too weak to Solo effectively, and in a team, regardless of what mode they are on, there are several other ATs within the team that does those functions much better.

Now if a PB's performance would not be group dependent, and be able to provide a buffage value to the team, such as the red side epics does, I am very likely to change my mind over the AT. Since red gives ACC buffage, maybe PBs give resistances to damage for instance or extra damage buffs.

I would also like to see the PB feel truly epic, let them have mez protection gained from any of their protection powers, but are redundant and not cummulative if more of their protection powers are on. I would also allow for pool powers to continue providing benefits and be usable regardless of mode.

Stormy

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