I LOLd at Ken jennings written comment on the last final Jeopardy.
The whole thing was intriguing to me. I really hoped to hear about Watsons betting logic, and why it chose what categories it chose. The betting was in odd numbers, and if watson had a betting strategy at all. Thats what makes the daily doubles so exiting because sometimes the player will only vote a little, and sometimes theyll roll the dice and make it a true daily double.
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Watson was taking the gents to town big time. It just was wrong seeing it run the board.
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Watson was taking the gents to town big time. It just was wrong seeing it run the board...
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I just see Watson as another step in the process of machines "evolving" into whatever they are destined to become.
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Actually, Jeopardy is more than just a quiz show esp. with it's word play and references to pop culture. That's why Watson's success is so surprising. It took a dedicated team 4 years to teach it 'common sense' ie. water is wet, which was key in making it a success at the game.|
Originally Posted by CaptainFoamerang
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Of course, now that they've done it we're all obsolete.
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I don't find it to be all that surprising, actually. Just seems like a matter of teaching the software to recognize key words.
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Actually, Jeopardy is more than just a quiz show esp. with it's word play and references to pop culture. That's why Watson's success is so surprising. It took a dedicated team 4 years to teach it 'common sense' ie. water is wet, which was key in making it a success at the game.
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Exactly. I saw this and instantly thought, "Why is Google allowed to do this exactly?" I mean, it's not Google, but functionally wouldn't it be doing something very similar? I don't see the technical marvel here.
It was fun to watch, and I liked the bar at the bottom that showed Watson's top three answers and his confidence level in them. It was interesting to see what questions threw him off, especially in the first game's Final Jeopardy. Toronto is not a U.S. city, Watson.
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While yes I agree somewhat about it just being a talking search engine it's also so much more. I was actually paying some attention to this project on a show called daily planet and alot of programming went into this thing just to teach it common sense.|
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Exactly. I saw this and instantly thought, "Why is Google allowed to do this exactly?" I mean, it's not Google, but functionally wouldn't it be doing something very similar? I don't see the technical marvel here.
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Even so to google something pick the right answer from possibly thousands of results and do it before the top two jeopardy players ever to play the game is I gotta say impressive.
Just to clarify for those who didnt catch it. Watson was not connected to the internet at all for the matches. So his answers were compeltely self generated.
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What I was curious about was how Watson handled the more strategic aspects of the game -- choosing where to go next on the board, or how much to wager in the Daily Doubles. What formula or criteria was it following?
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I think Watson liked to choose categories that have already been started. The categories sometimes confused him at first, but he would figure it out after a couple questions. That's why Ken Jennings kept going for the harder questions first, to get them before Watson could catch on.|
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What I was curious about was how Watson handled the more strategic aspects of the game -- choosing where to go next on the board, or how much to wager in the Daily Doubles. What formula or criteria was it following?
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I have no idea how Watson chose his wagers, though. He made some weird ones.
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I have no idea how Watson chose his wagers, though. He made some weird ones.
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By the time we fully figure out what "motivates" a machine like Watson to do what it does it'll be far too late for us.
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Jennings seemed to catch on that Watson had trouble with pop culture, but there were still more than enough categories based around pure facts for Watson to mostly (Toronto?!) steamroll through.
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I think Watson liked to choose categories that have already been started. The categories sometimes confused him at first, but he would figure it out after a couple questions. That's why Ken Jennings kept going for the harder questions first, to get them before Watson could catch on.
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I'd expect a computer as sophisticated as this to win on Jeopardy. It's the sort of thing machines would excel at; that's why it's such a challenge for humans.
I'd like to see Watson win on the $100,000 Pyramid.
EDIT: Or Family Feud.
Can just imagine it now. AI is next judge of American Idol in Season 20 and 0-PRA is first AI to host a talk show. Then we have to worry about AI is our elections. Although, they would do a better job than most politicians assuming they have the right program. Have to get rid of that pesky DESTROY ALL HUMANS bug that seems to be present in most AIs.
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Can just imagine it now. AI is next judge of American Idol in Season 20 and 0-PRA is first AI to host a talk show. Then we have to worry about AI is our elections. Although, they would do a better job than most politicians assuming they have the right program. Have to get rid of that pesky DESTROY ALL HUMANS bug that seems to be present in most AIs.
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The key thing about Watson isn't its database or search algorithms. It's the ability to process casual language and derive "meaning" from it. Especially when you consider the convoluted answer-and-question format that Jeopardy! uses.
Watson's betting strategy was probably just derived around an algorithm incorporating its own score, its competitors' scores and its history of correct responses.
Apply a few iterations of Moore's Law to Watson and before too long you'll have everyday-use computer interfaces that respond to natural language instructions in conversational form.
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Apply a few iterations of Moore's Law to Watson and before too long you'll have everyday-use computer interfaces that respond to natural language instructions in conversational form.
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Not that I care for distracted driving, but the Mini brand is set to introduce an option where you can tweet from your car.
Combine these technologies though and I will finally be able to realize a dream (provided the car ahead of me can do the same) of mine - the ability to tell the person riding along in the left lane 15 miles under the speed limit how I really feel in real time.
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Sweet, I'll be ready to buy a new Mustang in a few years and hopefully Ford's SYNC will be filled with this goodness.
Not that I care for distracted driving, but the Mini brand is set to introduce an option where you can tweet from your car. Combine these technologies though and I will finally be able to realize a dream (provided the car ahead of me can do the same) of mine - the ability to tell the person riding along in the left lane 15 miles under the speed limit how I really feel in real time. "Car please contact liscence plate ST XXX-XXXX, I have something I really want to tell them" |
A Watson-like computer can solve word problems.
Think about it. Pure math is no problem for computers, provided you tell it what equation you want to solve, what the values/ranges are and so forth. Knowing how to set up the problem becomes the hardest part and the one that people most commonly screw up. Garbage in, garbage out.
With a Watson-like system, you can simply describe the problem you need solved and it will interpret your request, look up the appropriate equations and data and then do the math. Then it can provide the answer in colloquial language and elaborate the parts you may not understand.
With enough "experience" it can even anticipate the misconceptions of the person asking the question and avoid any errors inherent in the query. Or it might ask for or even offer clarification.
Next likely goal: See if Watson 2.0 (or whatever the next generation is) can "earn" an advanced degree through standard education and testing.
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That is pretty lofty and would be neat indeed, I think I still would settle for Watson 1.01 if it allowed me to communicate with any sort of device easily. |
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A Watson-like computer can solve word problems. Think about it. Pure math is no problem for computers, provided you tell it what equation you want to solve, what the values/ranges are and so forth. Knowing how to set up the problem becomes the hardest part and the one that people most commonly screw up. Garbage in, garbage out. With a Watson-like system, you can simply describe the problem you need solved and it will interpret your request, look up the appropriate equations and data and then do the math. Then it can provide the answer in colloquial language and elaborate the parts you may not understand. With enough "experience" it can even anticipate the misconceptions of the person asking the question and avoid any errors inherent in the query. Or it might ask for or even offer clarification. Next likely goal: See if Watson 2.0 (or whatever the next generation is) can "earn" an advanced degree through standard education and testing. |
As a problem solving tool, Watson 2 would be awesome though.
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