Scabbard \ Holster \Weapons Booster pack

So not long ago Jay left one of his cryptic long messages on some other web page and it hinted at a lot of things. Including the now confirmed Animal pack and what seems to be a steam punk back that has been heavily hinted at if not officially confirmed.

Another thing he hinted at was scabbards for weapons. I know many of us have been wanting some holsters\scabbards for some time. So I thought it might be fun to discuss what we'd like to see, specifically. Maybe nothing will come of it but I do like seeing people's ideas.

I must admit I saw some costume pieces like this in another game recently and I liked them. So here is what I would like to see in CoH.

- Katana (Straight and curved) Scabbard on the back. Personally I want a handle with it but I know some would want it to appear "empty".

- Double Katana Scabbards (Straight and curved.) Diagaonally on the back, paralell to each other like the Tsoo ninja's have.

- Katana Diagonal on the back, and tanto\wakasashi scabbard horizontal across the lower back.

- Broad sword scabbard on the back.

- Axe on the back (IE Infernal or Valkyrie.)

- Dual pistols holsters.

- Dual revolver holsters (Cowboy style)

- Tonfa's on each hip at the belt.

- Chest straps with large knives in them.

- Gloves with shurikens

- Gloves with Crossbows (Like Knives of Artemis)

- Boots with knives

Also such a pack might include new weapons models, especially for the ones that need more options, Dual pistols and such.

I'd love to see some glowy assault rifle and dual pistols weapons. I'd also love to see more glowy Blade weapons, like the Vanguard weapons but different varietys, maybe like electricity blades etc.


So I suppose that's a fairly extensive list but I'd love to see what others would like!

Love this stuff.

I'd like to add backpacks, quivers and jetpacks activated by toggling on the fly power (plus jet belts, worn on the waist).

I love booster packs. However, I don't think that this is such a great idea. Basic sheathes and holsters should be included for everyone as a part of a normal Issue release.

Now if they wanted to release a "Weapon Master" pack which was mostly new weapons, additional sheathes and holsters, and related emotes, costume parts (like what you listed), and other goodies, then I'd be all for it.

They should have a Weapons Muenster Pack! All the cheese knives you can stomach!

This is a bad idea as a pack. Basic functionality should be included in the base game, not a purchasable pack.

That said, I agree with the suggestions in spirit, if not in practice. I feel that each weapon should have its own, unique "holster" that fits the shape of the weapon. Not having holsters does look back. Having holsters that look wrong is even worse.

As far as personal preferences go. I'd like to have the ability to carry my Broadsword on my back unsheathed

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Agreed that it should be included for free. All the previous packs are cool but not (I know nothing is, shush) 'necessary'.

Backpacks and holsters and armoured back details (looking at YOU Vanguard!) should be built in if the tech is finally possible.

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Backpack and scabbards are cool.
Tying them to a booster pack not so much. And I'm a proponent of the costume boosters.

Also: I want a jump jet costume piece that animates when using super jump! (like the rocket boots do whil flying. But with a tintable flame!)

The function is already in game. Shouldn't be too hard to implement it for players?

You forgot something that the playerbase has requested since ISSUE #5.

QUIVERS for archers!

Wyvern have them so why can not we?

It would be so awesome if they did they allowed all weapons as a 'back' option, with a 'reverse' combat aura trick- they'd have your weapon on your back, but when you go into combat mode (drawing your weapon) it disappears.

Similar approach for scabbards/holsters, a handle/grip shows in them until you draw your weapon.

Yeah, well since they don't seem to add lots of costume parts options in the game for free anymore, I'll take a large number of scabbards and weapons in a pack, VS not having them at all.

That being said, I was more looking for suggestions and ideas here, not a debate about whether it should be in a pack or not. Surely besides quivers, some people have other suggestions for this...

If you're doing scabbards there must -- MUST -- be a standard knight's at-the-hip style scabbard.

It would be really nice to actually draw our weapons rather than materializing them out of thin air.

I can not express how much this pack needs to happen. We have all of these wonderful weapon based power sets in the game. Many since Day 1, yet nothing like this has been addressed. Scabbards, holsters, and quivers are loooooooong overdue!!! Please Devs make this happen. You answered the roar of the community for the Animal Pack, now is the time to keep the momentum rolling.

Free or not, this really needs to be added to the game. This is something I have been waiting for since launch. Every time I see Infernal with his axe on his back I want to punch him in the jaw because I know he is taunting me!!

http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=241813

Y'know what I'd like, a slightly different version of the police belt, one wihtout the PR22 baton. I dig the other bits and pieces on the belt and I'd also like to see it trimmed in regular light tan leather.

Even though I might not use it on a gun wielding toon, I do dig the look on some characters (ala' Captain America or any number of 40'/50's era heros that used to sport a side arm along with the regular hero costume).

The lecture on animations is interesting, but irrelevant in this case, because Maelstrom's holsters are animated costume pieces, and animated costume pieces have no bearing on the animation of the model rig. That much has been proven by custom weapons.

Weapons in this game were little more than power effects, a 3D model in the same vein as Energy Melee's pink pom-poms of doom. What weapon customization did was swap that effect with a call for an animated costume item in the same vein as wings. Weapons in this game have two frames of animation - visible and invisible. When a weapon is "drawn," instead of spawning an effect, the engine calls for the animated costume piece permanently attached to the hand to go one frame forward and appear. When the weapon is "holstered," instead of despawning that effect, the engine calls for the costume piece to go one frame back and disappear.

This technology already exists and we have precedent for it. There appears to be no reason why that same tech can't be used to trigger multiple costume items. In fact, we KNOW it can trigger multiple costume items, because Dual Blades and Dual Pistols are technically two separate costume items, one for each hand.

All holsters would need to work is for them to be made into separately animated costume pieces with two frames of animation, one with the weapon inside visible, one with the weapon invisible, and for that animation to be keyed to play on weapon draw, the same way weapons appear and disappear. After all, your weapon NEVER LEAVES YOUR HAND. It just turns invisible and the character's palm opens up.

Let's hope they're actually working on it.

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