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The hip bone's connected to the shoulder socket...
Liefield would be proud.
Seriously though, that's pretty bad.
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Ok so what happened to Eddie Brock, and why is there a new Venom?
I don't read comics so that is why I don't know this.
Cancel the kitchen scraps for widows and lepers, no more merciful beheadings and call off christmas!
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Originally Posted by Starflier
The hip bone's connected to the shoulder socket...
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It's a tribute to the Classic Macfalane cover
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Originally Posted by Starflier
The hip bone's connected to the shoulder socket...
Liefield would be proud. Seriously though, that's pretty bad. |
Here however is a reminder of what a messterpiece of artwork truly is:
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Brock had cancer and the symbiote didn't want an unhealthy host. Other reasons exist as I recall.|
Originally Posted by 2short2care
Ok so what happened to Eddie Brock, and why is there a new Venom?
I don't read comics so that is why I don't know this. |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Brock
Also, even Brock and the symbiote were not immune to the effects of the Mephisto mindwipe.
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Sooo...Brock's now basically a super white blood cell, with the abilities of Venom, and also sorta Leech. That's just straight up nutty.
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Originally Posted by Nericus
Brock had cancer and the symbiote didn't want an unhealthy host. Other reasons exist as I recall.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Brock Also, even Brock and the symbiote were not immune to the effects of the Mephisto mindwipe. |
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Originally Posted by Starflier
Seriously though, that's pretty bad.
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Also, no hips.
I like this change. Venom was fun but the character really had gone as far as it could as bonded to Brock - the story had a start (getting the symbiote), a middle (the hunt and torment of Peter), and an end (realizing that Spiderman wasn't that bad a guy after Spidey saved his ex-wife). After the end he just kind of wandered around the middle for a few years and I *really* disliked the Gargan-bound Venom.
Bound to Flash, a character that, in my opinion, is one of the most developed supporting characters Marvel has - a massive long standing history from school bully to boxer to marine, from enemy to rival to friend - I think both Flash and the symbiote have room to grow.
Granted, a second symbiote, or clone of the symbiote, might have been the safer route to go with this change.
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But how much of that is still there after OMD?
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Originally Posted by TheBruteSquad
Bound to Flash, a character that, in my opinion, is one of the most developed supporting characters Marvel has - a massive long standing history from school bully to boxer to marine, from enemy to rival to friend - I think both Flash and the symbiote have room to grow.
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Do we know if it really IS the symbiote anymore?
Or might it be a lie, he's wearing just be a costume now, the name taken to inspire fear?
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So, reading that link, he's a disabled military dude, and somehow the military got Venom, and used it on the dude to have a supersoldier, but they forcibly remove it every couple of days so they don't merge?
Is that about right?
I haven't ever read many comics, but they can be interesting.
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In a nutshell. Also important to the char is his origins as a bully of Peter Parker back in HS, yet complete hero worship of Spider-Man. Also, I think i smell a bit of Avatar influence in having him be the new Venom...Flash looses his legs in Iraq, gets a new lease on life via the symbiote...
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Originally Posted by Symar
So, reading that link, he's a disabled military dude, and somehow the military got Venom, and used it on the dude to have a supersoldier, but they forcibly remove it every couple of days so they don't merge?
Is that about right? I haven't ever read many comics, but they can be interesting. |
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As I said in the other thread, this version might be good if handled properly. I'm not against the idea and a fresh spin could be positive for the character.
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Originally Posted by Ironik
As I said in the other thread, this version might be good if handled properly. I'm not against the idea and a fresh spin could be positive for the character.
Minor spelling note: "loose" means "not tight" while "lose" means "lost." |
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Originally Posted by Furio
Sooo...Brock's now basically a super white blood cell, with the abilities of Venom, and also sorta Leech. That's just straight up nutty.
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Time to get rid of them and Carnage, for good.
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Originally Posted by Rabid_Metroid
But how much of that is still there after OMD?
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Of course as Joephisto put it: it's magic we don't need to explain it.
I've always liked Venom as a villain. As a hero it's just silly.
I will reserve judgment on this new series. It may or may not go well.
But I have to say, if the symbiote left Brock because he was unhealthy... then why in the world would it willingly bond to a handicapped person? O_o
I mean, yes, with Venom Flash can walk again, but it seems like a pseudo-intelligent alien creature would try to find the HEALTHIEST person possible to merge with. Just sayin'.
I liked Spidergirl's interpretation of Venom where the symbiote was the victim to its host's desires. Unfortunately, Spidergirl is just an alternate future.
The first step in being sane is to admit that you are insane.
So Venom's big weakness is loud noises and now he's going to be walking around blazing away with full automatic assault rifles? Yeah, that makes sense.
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Originally Posted by Blarg
I've always liked Venom as a villain. As a hero it's just silly.
I will reserve judgment on this new series. It may or may not go well. But I have to say, if the symbiote left Brock because he was unhealthy... then why in the world would it willingly bond to a handicapped person? O_o I mean, yes, with Venom Flash can walk again, but it seems like a pseudo-intelligent alien creature would try to find the HEALTHIEST person possible to merge with. Just sayin'. |
At that point, I'd say beggars can't be choosers and they both had a common hatred.
What concerns me most about this new Venom story line is that these were the same people that brought us the walking disaster known as FRANKENCASTLE.....
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the concept is pretty meh, and it always irks me to see the levels of '90s haet that Venom (and in his own way, Carnage) gets, but i wouldn't mind seeing a fresh take on Venom at this point. I dug seeing the monstrous Gargan Venom on the Thunderbolts (and as a Dark Avenger), but watching them infect someone else with the suit, under Steve Rogers run as America's top cop? Blech.|
Originally Posted by Nericus
What concerns me most about this new Venom story line is that these were the same people that brought us the walking disaster known as FRANKENCASTLE.....
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plus ive got an aversion to picking up any spidey or spin off spidey titles until OMD gets rewrtitten, retconned, or wiped out. Besides, Remender doesn't exactly inspire confidence. i wouldn't go so far as to say his writing is sub par, but it's pretty close.
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Originally Posted by Veritech
the concept is pretty meh, and it always irks me to see the levels of '90s haet that Venom (and in his own way, Carnage) gets, but i wouldn't mind seeing a fresh take on Venom at this point. I dug seeing the monstrous Gargan Venom on the Thunderbolts (and as a Dark Avenger), but watching them infect someone else with the suit, under Steve Rogers run as America's top cop? Blech.
plus ive got an aversion to picking up any spidey or spin off spidey titles until OMD gets rewrtitten, retconned, or wiped out. Besides, Remender doesn't exactly inspire confidence. i wouldn't go so far as to say his writing is sub par, but it's pretty close. |
Also I too endeavor to avoid Spiderman purchases due to OMD. Here's hoping that the new EIC endeavors to unravel that mess.
Flash Thompson, as many guessed.
More details in the link.
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