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Originally Posted by iMidget Perfection
This my first time using hero stat, but I think 2.71million per minute is pretty good. Comes out to be around 162million influ per hour. This is on fire cybor map 1 person set for 4x8 no bosses, mission was completed in 3:42.
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What is the arc number for that mission? Also, would it be ok if I timed you on one of your runs?
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Make all IO's available in Paragon Market! NCSoft, the chinese are making BIG money selling influence and other stuff in the game. Best way to stop them = make the paragon market a place to buy all IO's and perhaps other things as well.
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Originally Posted by Shisui
i cant imagine not running cardiac. the recharge must be nice but, eugh.. either your attacks are all slotted for less damage and more end redux, or you have to use blues. i doubt its worth it overall.
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On my farmer, my attacks are slotted with purples meaning not much end redux. I also have tier 4 spiritual. Because of the high recharge, consume is up quite fast. Around 40ish seconds. (varies due to FF proc) Also when farming, inspirations drop like crazy. So if I do run low between the times that consume is up, chances are, I have a blue handy. The split second it takes to pop a blue does not slow you down at all.
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Originally Posted by Commando
What is the arc number for that mission? Also, would it be ok if I timed you on one of your runs?
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Sure, I alrdy respeced out of Elec and back into soul epic. I was farming alot faster with that. but i hated using elec on iTFs and what not
But taht time and pic was with soul. I don't know mission numbers just names. Fire cybor 999+ votes, is the mission. and if your farming EXP it's way better to use that than other front loaders. ESP dual farming. but if ticket farming use front loader mission.BTW I play on freedom @iMidget
Welp....decided to check out all the Elec/Fire/* stuff myself and finally rolled one. He's at 50 and IO'd now, sitting on around 25% F/C Def and 85% Rech for as cheap as I could get it (no purps, LoTG mule-only powers, etc..). I built him the same way I did my Fire/Fire/Mu Brute, but he's noticeably slower so far. I don't know if that's b/c I haven't gotten the level shift yet, or what...but....eh, not impressed. Times below started right before engaging the mob and right after killing last foe.
My Fire/Fire/Mu on Frontload @+4x8 w/bosses = 3min 25sec avg and around 2.75m inf/min. This could go up or down depending upon the luck of insps dropping, but I can sit around there pretty comfortably.
My Elec/Fire/Mu on Frontload @+4x8 w/bosses = 4min 45sec to 5min 15 sec after multiple runs. This toon is built the same way (same rech, same Fire def, etc) as my other toon, but despite the awesomeness of the FF: +Rech Proc, just not liking it too much.
That's my findings/opinions so far...I'll tweak my tactics a bit here and there and see if they help, and I'm hoping level shift gives me more than I'm anticipating in the way of return on these runs. Tossing it out there for anyone that cares.
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I've been working on an elec/fire/mu as well. I've come away more pleased than you I guess. By 47, with ~32% f/c & 110% rech it was doing my preferred farm mish (FIRE!) at something like 6:30 or less on 2/8/bosses. Not uber fast, but no lotg or level shift yet, and much faster than my fire/fire/pyre tank and probably close to how fast my ss/fire/mu was at that point. |
Originally Posted by TheXor
Welp....decided to check out all the Elec/Fire/* stuff myself and finally rolled one. He's at 50 and IO'd now, sitting on around 25% F/C Def and 85% Rech for as cheap as I could get it (no purps, LoTG mule-only powers, etc..).
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The ss is currently faster, but he's using a veng build, and I'm not going to do that with the elec/. So, while she may be a bit slower (and I won't know until I get her level shifted, get a couple more lotg and move up to my usual 4/8/bosses), I've found that she is just way more fun to play. No rage crashes, and FE+LR is good, clean, disgusting fun for the farming family. I can see how /soul would actually work fine, as I usually have a spare aoe or two that I don't fire off in my attack chain. Also, I was surprised at how well Thunderstrike came out in the herostats #s.
Cheap e/f/m build if anyone is curious (I took the cone for kicks, I'm tired of ball lightning, take ball if you want optimal). Just remove the lotgs (which I don't even have yet) & the oblits to save $$:
Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.93
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Level 50 Magic Brute
Primary Power Set: Electrical Melee
Secondary Power Set: Fiery Aura
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Mu Mastery
Villain Profile:
Level 1: Havoc Punch -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(3), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(13), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(27), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(36)
Level 1: Fire Shield -- Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(3), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(11), Aegis-ResDam(15), Aegis-Psi/Status(43)
Level 2: Jacobs Ladder -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(A), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(5), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg(13), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg(25), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(34)
Level 4: Blazing Aura -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(A), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(5), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg(11), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg(23), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(27)
Level 6: Healing Flames -- Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(A), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(7), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(7), Dct'dW-Heal(15), Dct'dW-Rchg(31)
Level 8: Thunder Strike -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(A), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(9), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg(9), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(23), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg(31), FrcFbk-Rechg%(34)
Level 10: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 12: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 14: Temperature Protection -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), S'fstPrt-ResKB(36)
Level 16: Plasma Shield -- Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(17), Aegis-EndRdx/Rchg(17), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(21), Aegis-ResDam(46)
Level 18: Chain Induction -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(19), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(19), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(21), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(37)
Level 20: Tough -- Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(40), Aegis-ResDam(40)
Level 22: Weave -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(37), LkGmblr-Rchg+(37)
Level 24: Consume -- Mocking-Taunt(A), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg(25), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(39), Mocking-Acc/Rchg(40), Mocking-Taunt/Rng(43), Mocking-Rchg(46)
Level 26: Taunt -- Mocking-Taunt(A), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg(48), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(48), Mocking-Acc/Rchg(48), Mocking-Taunt/Rng(50), Mocking-Rchg(50)
Level 28: Burn -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(29), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(29), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(31), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 30: Build Up -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 32: Lightning Rod -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(33), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(33), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34)
Level 35: Fiery Embrace -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 38: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(39), RechRdx-I(39)
Level 41: Electrifying Fences -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(42), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(42), Posi-Dmg/Rng(42), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(43)
Level 44: Static Discharge -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(45), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(45), Posi-Dmg/Rng(45), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(46)
Level 47: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 49: Rise of the Phoenix -- RechRdx-I(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Fury
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-End%(36)
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I just used up a vetspec and I have to say....I'm WAY happier with Soul! I wouldn't have thought it, but it just meshes better with the toon (for me) than Mu. Since the rest of Elec is so bursty, the DoT from Mu just didn't seem to work well it it for the +4 bosses. Mu, however, on my Fire/Fire Brute is wonderful...but the extra instant big up-front hit from Dark Oblit has made me really enjoy the toon a good bit more. I know there are some DoT ticks in Soul, and with Gloom...just taking note of my perceptions at least. Speaking of which, Elec being a bit Single Target weak, yay for Gloom... |
Originally Posted by Lobster
I've been working on an elec/fire/mu as well. I've come away more pleased than you I guess. By 47, with ~32% f/c & 110% rech it was doing my preferred farm mish (FIRE!) at something like 6:30 or less on 2/8/bosses. Not uber fast, but no lotg or level shift yet, and much faster than my fire/fire/pyre tank and probably close to how fast my ss/fire/mu was at that point.
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Another thing, as you hinted at earlier....Elec is just fun. I'm sure that's worth more than another .5m/min anyway in the long run.
I just deleted a Claws/Fire at 43ish....I think I'm done with Fiery Aura in the meantime. Always wanted to try War Mace with it though...argh.
Below is what I'm running now. Your build looks very solid as well.
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.93
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Elec_Fire_Soul: Level 50 Technology Brute
Primary Power Set: Electrical Melee
Secondary Power Set: Fiery Aura
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Concealment
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Havoc Punch -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(40), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(46)
Level 1: Fire Shield -- Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Aegis-ResDam(3), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(39), Aegis-EndRdx/Rchg(39), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(39)
Level 2: Jacobs Ladder -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(A), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(36), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg(37), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg(37), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(37)
Level 4: Healing Flames -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-Rchg(5), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(7), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(36), Dct'dW-Heal(36)
Level 6: Build Up -- AdjTgt-ToHit(A), AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg(7), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(48), AdjTgt-Rchg(48), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx(48)
Level 8: Thunder Strike -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(A), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(9), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg(9), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg(31), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(34), FrcFbk-Rechg%(34)
Level 10: Blazing Aura -- M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx(A), M'Strk-Acc/EndRdx(11), M'Strk-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(11), M'Strk-Acc/Dmg(27)
Level 12: Temperature Protection -- Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(13), Aegis-EndRdx/Rchg(13), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(25), Aegis-ResDam(27), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(50)
Level 14: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(15), RechRdx-I(15)
Level 16: Plasma Shield -- Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(17), Aegis-EndRdx/Rchg(17), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(19), Aegis-ResDam(19)
Level 18: Super Speed -- QckFt-EndRdx/RunSpd(A)
Level 20: Consume -- Mocking-Taunt(A), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg(21), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(21), Mocking-Acc/Rchg(23), Mocking-Taunt/Rng(23), Mocking-Rchg(25)
Level 22: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), Krma-ResKB(40)
Level 24: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 26: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 28: Burn -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(29), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(29), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(31), Oblit-%Dam(31)
Level 30: Vengeance -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 32: Lightning Rod -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(33), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(33), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34)
Level 35: Stealth -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 38: Rise of the Phoenix -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 41: Gloom -- Decim-Acc/Dmg(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(42), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(42), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(43)
Level 44: Dark Obliteration -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(45), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(45), Posi-Dam%(45), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(46), RechRdx-I(46)
Level 47: Grant Invisibility -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 49: Fiery Embrace -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(50)
Level 0: The Atlas Medallion
Level 0: Freedom Phalanx Reserve
Level 0: Portal Jockey
Level 50: Spiritual Partial Radial Revamp
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Fury
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+(5)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(3), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(43), P'Shift-End%(50)
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Wanted to pop back in with a quick update....got the level shift this afternoon and I've been doing +4x8 w/bosses non-stop for the SG. I was netting around 1.8-1.9 before the shift on that diff and now I'm doing 2.5-2.6 each time. Just a tad slower than my bestest farmer, and quite a bit more fun. I'm pleased!
Edit: Curious to see times or inf/min on a claws/fire if anyone has any. My apologies if I overlooked that (if it was already posted). Thanks again to all that chimed in with info/stats for these comparisons!
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I enjoy farming as well. What I don't agree with is AE farms being entertaining. I still farm the TV mission (hopefully you know the one).|
Originally Posted by Black_Aftermath
Hey All,
I know that some people look down on farming, or think it's boring. I however have come to enjoy some of the AE farms. My Arch/MM blaster loads of fun but is more of a second farmer and not the main attraction. So, I've come to look for the Main Attraction. Returning from a year long hiatus, Brutes and Fire/Kin trollers used to be top dog. I can afford the most expensive builds, so no holds barred, what is my best bet? I assume it's a Brute, but I'll go with whatever AT necessary. |
Not only that, I do it at +4 levels and x8 people with bosses on.
Not only THAT, but I do it solo, too, and this was when only the common and uncommon tiers of Alpha were available.
What do I do it with?
SS/SA
And the only purple I have is the stun one.
Meh I miss the old fire/fire tank days.. But I just started a Energy/fire brute and its pretty fun hopefully it doesnt fizzle out and make me bored like all my other brutes.
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I rolled up a Claws/Fire thinking it would hit similar numbers as the SS/FA Brutes in this thread, and it isn't even close. I stripped it down and turned it into a regular PvE build, so I guess all you have is my word, which probably isn't worth much. I was greatly disappointed.
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Edit: Curious to see times or inf/min on a claws/fire if anyone has any. My apologies if I overlooked that (if it was already posted). Thanks again to all that chimed in with info/stats for these comparisons!
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Originally Posted by TheXor
Wanted to pop back in with a quick update....got the level shift this afternoon and I've been doing +4x8 w/bosses non-stop for the SG. I was netting around 1.8-1.9 before the shift on that diff and now I'm doing 2.5-2.6 each time. Just a tad slower than my bestest farmer, and quite a bit more fun. I'm pleased!
Edit: Curious to see times or inf/min on a claws/fire if anyone has any. My apologies if I overlooked that (if it was already posted). Thanks again to all that chimed in with info/stats for these comparisons! |
I'm glad to hear you having fun on ur elec, My farming attack chain is Burn, Dark oblit, LR, TS. I hit TS every time there's not a power up which is once every 6 seconds I believe. and i hit LR after Burn and Oblit just fired off to kill the remaining bosses insteading of 1 shotting the minions. I hope you went t4 recharge. But with Mu is was Burn, Ball lighting, Fences, LR and TS when ever and i felt like it been 10 seconds. with Mu i never had a time where any AoE power was down. always seemed to have 1 of burn or Ball lighting or fences up. But have you tried your elec for an iTF? It just make's teaming so much better you and a kin can make any team a power team vs lvl 52s and below. With Mu i staying around 2.9 to 3 million/minute influ with soul i'm staying at 2.7m/minute but Soul is awesome outside of AE, Elec/fire DMG burst is king in PvE :P
Tubby - Thanks for the info on your experience with Claws/FA.
iMidget - I don't know if it was from the boredom of always taking Mu for the Fire Farmers on my alt account (spread on a few servers), but I just find soul a better fit for me with this combo. I had Mu a few days, but wanted to try something oddball with it, I did, and I'm pleased with it. With all the new i20 content the extra ST dmg for the 54 AV's (w/gloom) is also handy.
I just made a war mace/fire brute because I wanted to be different lol. But seriously war mace has tempted me a few times before because of it's high damage AOE attacks unlike ss which are more melee attacks. I also have a fire/fire tank, one of my first toons which is now enjoying a second life... and I just deleted a 50 ss/wp brute because I didn't like the wp set. I have a nrg/wp stalker and the wp set is different for stalkers than it is for brutes. my stalker with wp dies very rarely but my ss/wp brute was squishy no matter how I slotted it or hanced it. The war mace/fire brute looks like it will be fun (it's 32 now). I picked a shovel for the weapon and built a whole theme around it in the name and costume. The bone weapon option was hard to resist I was going to name it 'bam bam' but that was taken lol. So anyone with war mace/fire brute? what do you think?
Madame Nemesis
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Originally Posted by Madame Nemesis
my stalker with wp dies very rarely but my ss/wp brute was squishy no matter how I slotted it or hanced it.
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But you must have been doing something wrong there. My SS/WP is as tough or tougher than most stoners I've played with.
Alot of people say the best farmer is the farmer you enjoy playing the most. Alot of those people haven't gone 1-50 in 3-4 hours. Nuff said... JK yea Axe I could see 2.3M/minute or higher if properly sloted and incarnated. That Cone is no joke. 115 base it should be hitting max targets.. you know if it's 8/10/16 foes max?
I don't know. I'm not a total noob but I'm not a finely aged vet either ( I love to say that lol ) although I am a total addict and probably play more than a lot of people. That said I'm still learning about slotting. In almost a year on this game I've talked to so many people that all have different opinions on how to slot from 'it's not needed' (lol) to 'frankenslotting'. So I got me some mids and respected that darn brute so many times... I could never get lethal/smashing def over 20% no matter what I did. I'm talking 5 7.5's, enzyme hami's, set bonus' w/ focus on defense... and spent I don't even know how much 1... maybe 2 billion? or more? I don't keep track cuz if I did it might make me sad lol. So if you have a mids build to share or advice about slotting I'm ALL EARS. =)
Madame Nemesis
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im havin a blast on mine and i only have regular IO's except for one performance shifter proc. i hate the rage crash on ss.|
Originally Posted by Madame Nemesis
So anyone with war mace/fire brute? what do you think?
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im running at 2/8 just fine and im sure if i took the time to add set io's i could go a lot faster and bump it to 4/8 easily.
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My guess is its either 5 or 10.
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Originally Posted by iMidget Perfection
Alot of people say the best farmer is the farmer you enjoy playing the most. Alot of those people haven't gone 1-50 in 3-4 hours. Nuff said... JK yea Axe I could see 2.3M/minute or higher if properly sloted and incarnated. That Cone is no joke. 115 base it should be hitting max targets.. you know if it's 8/10/16 foes max?
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"I have ridden the mighty moon worm!"
-Al Gore
Fiery Aura is only good for farming, I'm cereal
@Caucasiafro
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sadly only 5|
Originally Posted by ultrawatt
My guess is its either 5 or 10.
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10 for the Mace Cone though
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Since the new incarnates are out, the quote above, if it was arguable that it is not true about the farmers having problems with rage, IT IS obsolete now. |
Originally Posted by BellyButtonJelly
Lyger has no clue about farming. What "cone's" are you talking about Lyger? There is one attack classified cone "Jacob's ladder" which no one takes for farming which means that there are no cones in an elec/fire build for farming.
I have both SS/Fire and Elec/Fire.. I only farm with the Elec/Fire. SS/Fire is pretty boring stuff as you just wait for your one button(FS) to come up every 5 seconds. You can't use Rage either because the end drain slows you down to much. Elec/Fire is busy all the way killing non stop and LR has a bigger radius than FS. SS/Fire people have never tried anything but that build. I have both and SS/Fire is far more boring and I don't like managing the end if I don't have to. So what fun is it if you don't even use Rage?? You just have to rely on Red Insps of course.. and that means any AT is just as good if not better. Perhaps lyger |
I am the owner of a really great farmer in Freedom, an SS/Fire/Mu, Abysmal-Terror. I would pair him up vs any Elec/Fire brute any day.
The new incarnates makes him even more beastly. Ageless, even at T3, makes him even more powerful and never has any end issues at all. Judgement, ION FTW, gives him something to do during the short Rage crash. I use Judgement during the Rage crash, and temp dmg powers. With people in my team, the troublesome Cyborg farm, which has the mobs too spread out for the likes of many, is cleared in 5 minutes, at 54x8, again, with people on the team. I let customers time me if they want on Cyborg. I have timed and issue challenges to other brutes, even elec/fire to do Cyborg and not one has met the challenge in Freedom server. Fastest time I have recorded on elec/fire brute on Cyborg is 6 mins 53 secs.
FIRE ! is a joke now. I just show up now and it's over.
Repeat Offenders forever !
Make all IO's available in Paragon Market! NCSoft, the chinese are making BIG money selling influence and other stuff in the game. Best way to stop them = make the paragon market a place to buy all IO's and perhaps other things as well.
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Originally Posted by iMidget Perfection
Sure, I alrdy respeced out of Elec and back into soul epic. I was farming alot faster with that. but i hated using elec on iTFs and what not
But taht time and pic was with soul. I don't know mission numbers just names. Fire cybor 999+ votes, is the mission. and if your farming EXP it's way better to use that than other front loaders. ESP dual farming. but if ticket farming use front loader mission.BTW I play on freedom @iMidget |
This my first time using hero stat, but I think 2.71million per minute is pretty good. Comes out to be around 162million influ per hour. This is on fire cybor map 1 person set for 4x8 no bosses, mission was completed in 3:42.
http://i52.tinypic.com/rrk3fb.png
The mish in that pic is NOT cyborg. So the time there is not for cyborg. I will be glad to time you on cyborg, set at 54x8, and with people in the mish, me, for timing you.
Repeat Offenders forever !
Make all IO's available in Paragon Market! NCSoft, the chinese are making BIG money selling influence and other stuff in the game. Best way to stop them = make the paragon market a place to buy all IO's and perhaps other things as well.
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You sure that's not fire cybor map +999? I've gotten about 8 50s off that map, so i've been useing it some time now.
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Originally Posted by Commando
Originally Posted by iMidget Perfection
This my first time using hero stat, but I think 2.71million per minute is pretty good. Comes out to be around 162million influ per hour. This is on fire cybor map 1 person set for 4x8 no bosses, mission was completed in 3:42. http://i52.tinypic.com/rrk3fb.png The mish in that pic is NOT cyborg. So the time there is not for cyborg. I will be glad to time you on cyborg, set at 54x8, and with people in the mish, me, for timing you. |
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Commando must be high because that is definitely Cyborgs +999.
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Originally Posted by iMidget Perfection
You sure that's not fire cybor map +999? I've gotten about 8 50s off that map, so i've been useing it some time now.
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"PvP Messiah"
Originally Posted by iMidget Perfection
This my first time using hero stat, but I think 2.71million per minute is pretty good. Comes out to be around 162million influ per hour. This is on fire cybor map 1 person set for 4x8 no bosses, mission was completed in 3:42.
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I reran the 999+ fire cyborg mission with my Incarnate Plant/Storm controller: +4/x8/no bosses, I cleared the first floor in 4:20, earning 1.63M inf/min -- a total of just over 7M inf for the run.
iMidget Perfection's numbers show he earned just over 10M inf for the run above. So Seeds of Confusion cost me 30% of the total inf? Wow. (Of course, I'm not sure I could survive the ambushes without confusion....)
Clearly, I'm never going to catch up to the *smash* of the brutes in this thread. But it has been fun trying to push my controller to extremes.
Hazel Black - Mind/Psi D
Stephanie Winters - Nightwidow
Jacqui Frost - Cold/Ice D
Jacqui Embers - Fire/Kin C
Simone Templar - Fire/MM B
Mallory Woods - Kin/Rad D
Sanguine Melody - Grav/Sonic C
Fumina Hara - Plant/Storm C
Nutmeg - Warshade
Lauren Wu - SS/WP B
When I can walk into an AE farm, with high recharge, double stacked rage, spiritual alpha and conduct my farming business without END being a bottleneck to performance then nothing in your argument appears to be reflected in reality. You can go back and see my build, there is end reduction in my attacks, but only the little that came with my chosen IO sets, there is no sacrifice to damage, much unlike the sacrifice in damage that results it cardiac versus spiritual.
Can I run out of end? Absolutely. Do I? Yep. But this is only when I am not paying close attention and get hit by an ill-timed rage crash and wasn't thinking about consume timing. I do sometimes pop a blue, but it is rare. Also, even if blue use was relatively heavy,which it is not, the recharge granted by spiritual far outweighs the loss of a few blues, I am frequently damage capped for the majority of the run, meaning there is a proportion of inspirations that are wasted entirely.
As far as the gapless attack chain, I'm not sure what's wrong or who, I just know if I am standing around and spamming my 4 attacks, there doesn't seem to be a gap. After rereading Arcanville's animation time game mechanics post, it is possible that I may have not been been as vigilant as I could have been making sure there is always a attack queued, the lag arcanaville discovered from not queue, could mask a gap in my chain. I will make it a point to make the video tonight, as well as make it a run where all attacks a properly queued, if there is a gap, we will all get to see how much impact it makes, it should also clear up any misconceptions regarding endurance usage.
For reference, this is my current build, it has changed a little since me last posting it.