So what is the Well's reason for the surge of Incarnates?
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Posted on: 2011-01-10 04:44 in Player Questions
Ramiel is the reason for the surge of new incarnates. The Well is barely involved at all.
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I'd guess that the incarnate thing is more of a private thing. Its not a sudden influx of incarnates that pop up, but more that of personal development, more of a selected few souls.
"We" (the playerbase) are the selected few, but we are not thousands of incarnates. I'd say it goes on an even more slim list then even the "Destined ones". And yet that is sort of the only thing In game that I can allude to.
Remiel talks to You (single term), and yet "We" (all playerbase) is this "you" (single term)
Well that is my take on it.
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Also, per the lore in Ramiel's arc, there are lots of incarnates already...not all of them aware of the fact that they are incarnates.
The Ramiel arc prequel lore on the web site indicates Silos' and Ramiel's surprise that the Well acts like it's suddenly 'sentient' or at least 'directed'.
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I think this is all tied in with the "Coming Storm" also. Ramiel suggests the incarnate option as a way to prevent that. Since that story is just starting to play out in game it is difficult to judge what it means yet. Certainly that first mission in the arc is interesting as all the incarnates (good and bad) seem to be under the control of something or someone and have destroyed the world.
Is the well responsible for the "Coming Storm" or is it someone else? What happened to all the incarnates who took the quick path in that first mission? What role will the menders have since those notes at the end of missions seem to suggest they are responsible for what happens rather then trying to prevent it?
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Originally Posted by Lady Arete
I'd guess that the incarnate thing is more of a private thing. Its not a sudden influx of incarnates that pop up, but more that of personal development, more of a selected few souls.
"We" (the playerbase) are the selected few, but we are not thousands of incarnates. I'd say it goes on an even more slim list then even the "Destined ones". And yet that is sort of the only thing In game that I can allude to. Remiel talks to You (single term), and yet "We" (all playerbase) is this "you" (single term) Well that is my take on it. |
This makes sense to me plus don't forget we are NOT actually incarnates yet. Altogether there are 10 slots we can eventually open and enhance and we haven't even gotten to the point where we can unlock the full potential of the first one. We are simply on the "long path" as Ramiel describes it in the cut scene in the final mission. Who knows how many before us have been on that same path and never finished the quest? We are now a little better than those not on "The Path" but still a very long way from being Demigods.
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He did say The Well was being 'directed' by someone/something. It's possible that the person guiding The Well wants more Incarnates for... something. Perhaps some kind of party. Something with streamers and party poppers and little paper hats.
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Originally Posted by FredrikSvanberg
Ramiel is the reason for the surge of new incarnates. The Well is barely involved at all.
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It got bored.
Also, this tends (the way I see it) to follow the "Everyone else in game is just your supporting cast" view of the storyline. Yes, there are more incarnates - but you're not looking at "every 50 on every server = new incarnate." In your character's "world," there's the few mentioned, a few unknowns, and you taking the "long path." Much like we don't have the Rikti breaking in time and time again to steal Hero-1's letter, or stop Nemesis's weather control scheme over and over, or there's a parade of "destined ones" beating up Recluse in the future, coming back and handing him his helmet. (He'd have quite a pile there.)
"The links are worthless to most unless the Well feels you are worthy."
"But it is neither good nor evil. It responds to power and will alone."
It will grant those it deems worth it's power. It's apparent that those the Well deems worthy are those that will it's power. It sounds like the Well is an embodiment/agent of chaos/strife/war/etc. With many more power individuals in the worth and a coming opportunity (The Coming Storm), it's no wonder the well is revealing itself to the player character.
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Originally Posted by Lady Arete
I'd guess that the incarnate thing is more of a private thing.
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For the characters of mine where it really matters in terms of story, there is no 'well'.
For one, it's the gradual return of the power she wielded prior to taking human form. For another, it's the dragon half of her nature becoming more prominent.
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It's not generosity; it's enlightened self-interest. The Menders aren't the only ones who can see the future. The Well wants its own troops that are, at least somewhat, beholden to it.
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Originally Posted by ImpulseKing
I don't think I've seen this explained ingame yet. Up until now, Incarnates have been pretty rare in the ingame canon. Yet suddenly there are hundreds if not thousands walking the path to Incarnate. Oh and we know the Well is sentient and willing to communicate if it feels the need. So what are the thoughts on the Well's sudden generosity?
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Not necessarily. He was distinguishing between sentience and direction. Someone or something can be directed by internal drives without necessarily being sentient. Army ant colonies can be viewed as being directed in their hunt for food, but they're not sentient.|
Originally Posted by Mr_Right
He did say The Well was being 'directed' by someone/something.
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For whatever reason the Well has become more active in our region of the universe. Something has stirred it up.
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I don't think I've seen this explained ingame yet. Up until now, Incarnates have been pretty rare in the ingame canon. Yet suddenly there are hundreds if not thousands walking the path to Incarnate. Oh and we know the Well is sentient and willing to communicate if it feels the need. So what are the thoughts on the Well's sudden generosity?
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