PVP IO drops still broken!!
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Another_Fan,
Posted on: 2011-01-09 05:08 in The Market and Inventions
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I think we're on to something here.|
Originally Posted by Malkore
slew of hate ... pvp ... pvp ... pvp ... devs ... not acknowledge this ... a well known issue
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Edit: Almost forgot to include Random Is Random, Ultra Rare is Ultra Rare and just to see you try to take Triumph "hostage"...
'plz report any abusers you come across'
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PvP IO drop rates seem ridiculous only because no other kind of recipes drop from them. I'd think they drop more often than your standard recipes if looking at drops per number of defeats. Of course there's the thing that player characters are usually tougher than NPCs... Still, they're supposed to be very rare.
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I don't know what kind of farming that is but I get all my PvP IOs to sell the honest and only way I know how (i.e. doing the tip missions grinding EVERY single day). Are you tip grinding every day? If not, you should start because that's a guarantee if you save up 30-35 hero merits.|
Originally Posted by Malkore
I am SICK of AFK farming!!!
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And as Shadow Ravenwolf already pointed out, "Random is Random" and there's nothing anyone can do about that.
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No hate here in fact I find this post amusing, how you are whinning about being sick of afk farming. This sounds like the same complaint about purple drops.|
Originally Posted by Malkore
So i figure I'm going to get a slew of hate for this statement, but i am sick of how pvp io's are dropped. I am SICK of AFK farming!!!.
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Originally Posted by Malkore
Great idea, pvp ios. Get people to pvp right? Cept I spend weeks straight in RV and get nothing but I can go afk farm and get 5 overnight.
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Originally Posted by Malkore
I know this never works but are the devs just going to continue to not acknowledge this? Why make such a good thing just to have crappy follow through.
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Originally Posted by Malkore
PS. Its been months since this has been a well known issue so if i get a farking responce of 'plz report any abusers you come across' responce i am going hijack and hold triumph hostage.
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How do you not laugh at people who admit they are sick of doing something they clearly know the devs frown upon and yet ask the same devs to fix it. Astonishing!
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The quoting police called, they said go back to wow nub
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Originally Posted by Old_Macdonald
No hate here in fact I find this post amusing, how you are whinning about being sick of afk farming. This sounds like the same complaint about purple drops.
Nothing? No shards? No xp? No prestige? Find that hard to believe. What do you suggest they do? How can you tell a afk farmer from a non afk farmer, and how do you fix this without hurting everyone who does pvp? Well if someone tells you that, then you would have to start by reporting yourself since you have admitted to afk farming youself! 5 per night huh? I'd say you have nothing to complain about, One saying comes to mind after reading this post "it doesn't matter how you get to the party, just get there" How do you not laugh at people who admit they are sick of doing something they clearly know the devs frown upon and yet ask the same devs to fix it. Astonishing! |
That doesn't even make any sense Malkore...
Your character does not have capped defense. Depending on your AT the cap is between 175% - 225%. Your defense is not teal in the combat window, it can go higher. STOP SAYING IT IS CAPPED! The correct term is Soft Cap.
I enjoy playing in Mids. I specialize in Melee Characters, other AT's usually bore me.
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Way to reinforce your point.|
Originally Posted by Malkore
The quoting police called, they said go back to wow nub
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Oh, the l33t farmers called, they said L2Farm more efficiently.
- @DSorrow - alts on Union and Freedom mostly -
Currently playing as Castigation on Freedom
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Simple solution take the PvP out of PvP zones and confine it to the arenas. There goes your afk farming and pve'ers are no longer coerced into pvp.
The only people frustrated are those that get off ganking hapless noobs in zones, and expect to get ultra valuable recipes for little more than griefing.
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The drop rate is insanely low, but it's meant to be that way.|
Originally Posted by Malkore
So i figure I'm going to get a slew of hate for this statement, but i am sick of how pvp io's are dropped. I am SICK of AFK farming!!!
Great idea, pvp ios. Get people to pvp right? Cept I spend weeks straight in RV and get nothing but I can go afk farm and get 5 overnight. I know this never works but are the devs just going to continue to not acknowledge this? Why make such a good thing just to have crappy follow through. PS. Its been months since this has been a well known issue so if i get a farking responce of 'plz report any abusers you come across' responce i am going hijack and hold triumph hostage. |
If you look at it, a bunch of PvP recipes are in the 30,000,000-100,000,000 range. For example, look at the hold sets, the pbaoe sets, the targeted AOE, they aren't eye-popping in price. It starts to break down with the procs like Glad Jav and the -RES proc and the +3% defense ones...since the latter, especially, is quite useful in PvE as well.
We got one in a practice the other day, and it was the first drop in about a month and a half of arena matches. Just market to get your cash for them; the farmers will put theirs on the Market, the circle becomes compelte.
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Originally Posted by Another_Fan
take the PvP out of PvP zones
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hmm.....|
Originally Posted by Malkore
So i figure I'm going to get a slew of hate for this statement, but i am sick of how pvp io's are dropped. I am SICK of AFK farming!!!
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Which problem are you trying to solve by doing this?
| Simple solution take the PvP out of PvP zones and confine it to the arenas. There goes your afk farming and pve'ers are no longer coerced into pvp. |
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lol pvo
the "BUT I'M BADGING" crowd that complains about getting ganking while in PvP zones.
Purple drops are horrible broken.
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Rng will hate me later, I am sure. 
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As much as the farmers will scream bloody murder (pretending they are complaining about some game play aspect of course), this suggestion is spot on.|
Originally Posted by Another_Fan
Simple solution take the PvP out of PvP zones and confine it to the arenas. There goes your afk farming and pve'ers are no longer coerced into pvp.
The only people frustrated are those that get off ganking hapless noobs in zones, and expect to get ultra valuable recipes for little more than griefing. |
Sure some arena farming will go on, but it will be no where near as accessible, easy, and most importantly productive as it is now.
Really the zones can be just a "for fun" area. Unless they come up with a novel reward system for them (maybe some kind of special temporary titles and or ranks for various accomplishments etc). Based on when I was involved in active PvP groups - the rewards were NOT the reason for pvp'ing. Pvp'ing was about the competitiveness and fun of matching up against fellow players. Since drops were so rare from actual pvp play (non farming), it definitely was not a motivator. I doubt thats changed much.
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Kara will you buy my Panacea procs?! |
Originally Posted by Neuronia
The drop rate is insanely low, but it's meant to be that way.
If you look at it, a bunch of PvP recipes are in the 30,000,000-100,000,000 range. For example, look at the hold sets, the pbaoe sets, the targeted AOE, they aren't eye-popping in price. It starts to break down with the procs like Glad Jav and the -RES proc and the +3% defense ones...since the latter, especially, is quite useful in PvE as well. We got one in a practice the other day, and it was the first drop in about a month and a half of arena matches. Just market to get your cash for them; the farmers will put theirs on the Market, the circle becomes compelte. |
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no they are not broken
i got 2 proc and a quad today
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Bump >8O
lol Anti Farmers make me laugh hard
It supplies the market with more then half its supply, which keeps cost down. Trust me, look at what happened to salvage prices when farmers switched to AE. People farming for PvP IOs are not hurting you, move on man. Or hey get a second account and do it yourself.
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Originally Posted by Smallz_NA
Kara will you buy my Panacea procs?!
I will <3 you foreva eva! |
Just to confirm they are dropping, had a Glad Net drop last night when some friends were sparring for fun. Just very, very low drop rate.
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Originally Posted by Gypsy_of_Paradox
lol Anti Farmers make me laugh hard
It supplies the market with more then half its supply, which keeps cost down. Trust me, look at what happened to salvage prices when farmers switched to AE. People farming for PvP IOs are not hurting you, move on man. Or hey get a second account and do it yourself. |
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I think most of you are missing my point so we'll try this. I'm advocating for the devs to follow through with a system they developed. Currently pvp ios are not reasonably aquired through pvping. Obviously there is a demand for them, look at the market. Why not after how many months since i17 finally fix what was developed to be an incentive to pvp so it actually does reward people who pvp! Further more i have no complaints about the drop rates. I just think afk farming has taken away (some would argue destroyed) what was left of this games pvp.