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In my opinion, the number of people who would purchase such a pack would be small -- those development resources would be better spent on new mission tilesets, more character faces and other dramatic costume pieces of the level of quality seen in the Magic Pack.
Funny how that comes up in almost everything.

"Bases? Nobody uses them much any more. Development would be better elsewhere."

"PVP? Nobody does that any more. Development would be better spent elsewhere."

See also hazard zones, new zones, revamping old zones, revamping old missions, emotes, and other costume pieces that don't for the poster's personal interest.


 

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Nobody uses personal interest anymore. Development would be better spent elsewhere.


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I get the feeling all y'all hate rabbits... I mean, am I the only one vying for rabbit parts?

Come on people!

I need someone to give me a head!


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I need someone to give me a head!
*spit-take*




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Funny how that comes up in almost everything.

"Bases? Nobody uses them much any more. Development would be better elsewhere."

"PVP? Nobody does that any more. Development would be better spent elsewhere."

See also hazard zones, new zones, revamping old zones, revamping old missions, emotes, and other costume pieces that don't for the poster's personal interest.
Yep, that just shows that they need to stop developing everything because they could make better use of those resources by getting me pie.


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Funny how that comes up in almost everything.
Perhaps, but I had a nice picture of Tigra in mine.

But seriously, if we look at packs as being things that are supposed to pay for themselves (the cost of their development) and generate some revenue on top of that -- while at the same time adding new content to the game -- do you honestly think an Animal Part Pack would sell as much as, say, the Magic Pack did?

Would sales of such a pack be in the tens of thousands, several thousand or only just a few hundred? Unless it's the former, it doesn't seem likely that such a thing will materialize any time soon.

-- Vivian


 

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Have you seen this Vivian?





I thought a bunch of people were yanking my chain about an animal pack until I saw this picture (and decided it was NOT part of some leg yanking plot).


 

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Originally Posted by warden_de_dios View Post
Have you seen this Vivian?
I had not seen that! But how nice! I'd name him "American Eagle".

That is a very classically styled animal hero.

Is it typical of what an "Animal Part Pack" would contain?

Or is it really just a faked-up image?

-- Vivian


 

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I get the feeling all y'all hate rabbits... I mean, am I the only one vying for rabbit parts?
I have a bunny girl, but I don't think she needs a bunny head to be complete. Her concept actually is built around the idea of a controlling ex-boyfriend that wanted a "Playboy Bunny"-type girl.

I wouldn't object to a rabbit head, however. And she could probably use some better ears.

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Or is it really just a faked-up image?
It comes from CoH's official Facebook page, so the likelihood of it being a 'shop is slim. It's probably genuine.


 

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No, it's real. An official pic from the Facebook page.
Holy!!! All I have to say is IT'S ABOUT TIME!


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I have a bunny girl, but I don't think she needs a bunny head to be complete. Her concept actually is built around the idea of a controlling ex-boyfriend that wanted a "Playboy Bunny"-type girl.

I wouldn't object to a rabbit head, however. And she could probably use some better ears.
Yes, that's all fine and dandy but as it happens, I have more rabbits and hares than you can shake a carrot stick at and mine are actually rabbits and hares who by various means end up being super heroes/villains. They're not pure humans wearing costume parts, they're symbionts, mutations, animal spirit possessions, genetically engineered rabbits, rabbits from outer space/other dimensions/parallel universes and rabbit gods/godesses to name but a few.

And I need a head for them!


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Yes, that's all fine and dandy but as it happens, I have more rabbits and hares than you can shake a carrot stick at
Are you why I had to name her Lapin Lazuli and not Blue Bunny? Because if so, thank you.


 

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I did some research today. Animal characters apparently break down into two categories, "Anthropomorphic" (Ann-throw-po-more-fic) and "Zoomorphic" (Zoo-more-fic).

Anthropomorphic means "becoming human". Such as a rabbit evolving, standing up, getting hands and talking.

Zoomorphic means "becoming animal". Such as a man becoming a werewolf, etc.

Plus, feet that are like a dog's, where you stand on your toes with an elongated arch to the heel are called "Digitigrade" (Dih-jit-ah-grade).

Feet that are like a bear's or human's, where you stand on the flat (or heel and ball) are called "Plantigrade" (Plan-tih-grade).

[/fascinating fountain of facts]

If you have a "human" costume and a "beast" costume, with any nice kind of "transformation" animation (that should come with any "Beast" or "Animal" Pack) you'd be able to pull off awesome "Bloody Roar" or "Manimal"-style transformations.

If it's a real Pack, we will doubtless see more Heroes of this stripe showing up in the near future!

-- Vivian


 

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what I would like to see in this pack a lot more than full on animal heads would be an extension to face scaling. If you could extend the face out into a muzzle or use a different head that was less animal and more human, I would like that very much. Also, some additional skins that look like furs would be fun.

I would like to point out (although I have a feeling that it will be like shouting into a void) that there's really no reason to object more to people making furry characters than any other kind of character. I know lots of furries who are both creative and not hyper-sexual. I myself have made at least one anthropomorphic character using the mutant pack. She's a shark like fish monster captured from far out in the ocean. She has neural-toxins that she spits on people (customized mind control) and poison barbs (spines). I would love to be able to extend her face to make it look more shark like.

I'm looking forward to this pack! I hope they do it well.


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Originally Posted by Doctor Vivian View Post
Zoomorphic and anthropomorphic characters are of course perfectly fine.

I don't think anyone is objecting to them. After all you can make them now.

The original concern was not against the existence of those kinds of characters.

But the term "Furry" has extensive sexual fetish connotations that go beyond this.

I believe it was those connotations that caused the original concern to be voiced.
Only thanks to idiots on the iternet, sadly.

Still, heres hoping that it's a decently broad pack. I have a lot of anthro-esque concepts that might finally see the light of day if it actually delivers.


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Let's not worry about it, but just enjoy the arrival of another fun Pack!

-- Vivian


 

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The Pack will very likely have some nicely done animal heads, paws, tails, feet, etc. plus a few transformation animations.

Given the number of sexy cat-girls that are currently strutting around in game (and no one complaining about them that I've noticed), I'm not sure why anyone would think an Animal Pack would make any significant difference.

Let's just wait and enjoy it for what it is.

-- Vivian


 

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Have you seen this Vivian?





I thought a bunch of people were yanking my chain about an animal pack until I saw this picture (and decided it was NOT part of some leg yanking plot).
That is WAY cool.


 

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You'll also find this awesome picture



I have no idea what its for or why it resulted from that search...


 

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Given the number of sexy cat-girls that are currently strutting around in game (and no one complaining about them that I've noticed)...
Oh it's quite noticeable in almost every thread where they get mentioned for any reason.

Casual denigration of catgirls is a norm in CoH. Usually for more humorous than malicious effect, but there are number of posters who ascribe every conceivable moral failing they can think of to anyone who plays a catgirl or any other animal-featured character.

i have a couple hybrid critters myself and have a more XKCD view of the matter.


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That is WAY cool.
I agree! I'm looking forward to seeing more Animal Heroes out and about!


 

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Oh it's quite noticeable in almost every thread where they get mentioned for any reason.
I should have made it more clear that I meant in-game, I didn't notice any denigration.

I'm sure people here in the Forums have complained, as complaints about anything complainable about (and beyond) seem to form a large part of the content here.

-- Vivian


 

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That is WAY cool.
It's also, strangely, better looking and more relaistic than something similar in something else that's meant to be more modern


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It's also, strangely, better looking and more relaistic than something similar in something else that's meant to be more modern
As Hollywood still has to learn, throwing money at something does not guarentee the result will be good


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GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.