Lucas announces Star Wars Saga Release


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The announcement everyone has been waiting for has finally happened. Lucas has set the release for the Star Wars sagas for September 2011. Looks like pre-orders are being taken through Amazon.com and through other as well. Not sure if I will pick them up unless they have all 3 versions, original theatrical, special edition (1997) and the 2004 edition. Then people will be able to see the difference between all 3.

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Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment will release Star Wars in three distinct sets to meet the needs of every Star Wars fan:

* Star Wars: The Complete Saga on Blu-ray (9-disc Set includes all six films)
* Star Wars: Prequel Blu-ray Trilogy (3-disc set includes Episodes I-III)
* Star Wars: Original Blu-ray Trilogy (3-disc set includes Episodes IV-VI)

Star Wars: The Complete Saga on Blu-ray will feature all six live-action Star Wars feature films utilizing the highest possible picture and audio presentation, along with three additional discs and more than 30 hours of extensive special features including never-before-seen deleted and alternate scenes, an exploration of the exclusive Star Wars archives, and much more.
OK what more did he leave out? yesh.

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How many times is that series going to be re-re-re-re-re-released? Each time with yet more commentary by the 2nd Assistant Sub-altern Vice-Gaffer's Cousin's Nephew's Former Roommate?



 

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How many times is that series going to be re-re-re-re-re-released?
I don't think this first Blu-Ray release of Star Wars warrants this comment.


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I don't think this first Blu-Ray release of Star Wars warrants this comment.
Yes, it does.

There's only so much you can do with material that was recorded on actual film and is 30+ years old. Not to mention the plethora of iterations prior to Blu-Ray. Look, I like Star Wars as much as the next geek (have an original Millenium Falcon + an original AT-AT sitting in my geek den along with a AT-ST that I had as a kid), but there comes a point when it's time to say Enough is Enough.



 

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If it does not include high-definition versions of the original cut of episodes 4-6, there will be wailing and gnashing of teeth.


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And George will not care one whit about that. He'll make sure the version he's sending out is great for visuals and sound, but with all the tweaks he needed to keep making to the originals.


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Originally Posted by Grey Pilgrim View Post
And George will not care one whit about that. He'll make sure the version he's sending out is great for visuals and sound, but with all the tweaks he needed to keep making to the originals.
He's released a DVD edition of the original, pre-special edition original trilogy, so it's not unreasonable to think he'd include it on one or more of the blu-ray sets as well.


 

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Yes, it does.

There's only so much you can do with material that was recorded on actual film and is 30+ years old.
Because it was recorded on actual film means it will have an actual improvement when put onto Blu-Ray.


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I have all 6 on DVD, a 5.1 sound system with up convert player and a shiny new 55" LCD TV.......trust me when I say that all six right now are looking darn good. I'll avoid this new Blu Ray stuff pending a list of all the features of this set such as what I hope would be included as listed below:

1. original unaltered classic trilogy included as a SELECTABLE OPTION ON THE DVD MENU! and NO I don't mean the cheap DVD's created from the laserdiscs. Blu Ray the original versions of the classics and you....George....will help bring joy to millions of Star Wars fans who in turn will enrich your bank account!

2. With luck Lucas struck a deal with Liam Neeson to make Jedi ghost appearances in Ep 2 and especially Ep 3. (read the ep 3 novelization, you'll know what I mean)

3. HAN SHOT FIRST! remove what some consider to be the most ridiculous of all Special Edition changes!

4. Commentary that is actually worth listening to and just hours of patting yourselves on the back. The only decent commentary remark was that Lucas gave a commentary explanation about how Anakin was made into a ghost in ROTJ.

5. Complete listing of all deleted and alternate scenes to see if there is anything I'd remember from the old days and if it would be worth seeing.

6. NO MORE REVISIONS OR SPECIAL EDITIONS! Bequeath the George Lucas Empire to your kids and let them REBOOT the whole thing if they want. Perhaps they can rewrite it all and close off the assorted plot holes....


 

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He's released a DVD edition of the original, pre-special edition original trilogy, so it's not unreasonable to think he'd include it on one or more of the blu-ray sets as well.
That was just the laser discs ported over to DVD without even being remastered. I swear he did it as an afterthought.


 

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He's released a DVD edition of the original, pre-special edition original trilogy, so it's not unreasonable to think he'd include it on one or more of the blu-ray sets as well.
Actually that only happened because Wal-Mart threatened with not promoting or stocking Star Wars unless Wal-Mart got to sell DVD editions of the original, pre-special edition trilogy. LucasArts countered with requiring that the DVD prints be sold as bonus discs with the special editions, rather than allowing Wal-Mart to sell the originals without the special editions.

Or did you just forget the whole thing with those DVD editions of the original, pre-special edition trilogy being a Wal-Mart exclusive: http://jediinsider.com/index.php?catid=243&itemid=9773


 

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There's only so much you can do with material that was recorded on actual film and is 30+ years old.
Film of any age is essentially a much higher resolution than blu-ray and there is much demand for high-definition versions of the films. I'd much prefer the original version over special edition, but we'll see how much it costs.

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And George will not care one whit about that. He'll make sure the version he's sending out is great for visuals and sound, but with all the tweaks he needed to keep making to the originals.
Well Lucas does like using the movies to test new CGI tech, hence all the revisions of the classics and the CGI extravaganza that was the prequels.

Of course, it is his sandbox we are just playing in it....


 

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Film of any age is essentially a much higher resolution than blu-ray and there is much demand for high-definition versions of the films. I'd much prefer the original version over special edition, but we'll see how much it costs.

Jer
How much higher demand? Watching the originals on an upconvert DVD player is good enough for me (and I'd venture a lot more people as well).

Of course, you'll have the same people saying that the special 100th Release Anniversary Edition on Chartreuse-Ray is just so much better than all the previous releases that one just has to have it.



 

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Actually that only happened because Wal-Mart threatened with not promoting or stocking Star Wars unless Wal-Mart got to sell DVD editions of the original, pre-special edition trilogy. LucasArts countered with requiring that the DVD prints be sold as bonus discs with the special editions, rather than allowing Wal-Mart to sell the originals without the special editions.

Or did you just forget the whole thing with those DVD editions of the original, pre-special edition trilogy being a Wal-Mart exclusive: http://jediinsider.com/index.php?catid=243&itemid=9773
As if Wal-Mart isn't a billion dollar company w/out Star Wars *sigh*


 

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How much higher demand? Watching the originals on an upconvert DVD player is good enough for me (and I'd venture a lot more people as well).

Of course, you'll have the same people saying that the special 100th Release Anniversary Edition on Chartreuse-Ray is just so much better than all the previous releases that one just has to have it.
it's Star Wars being slapped onto Blu Ray. They made announcements and commercials for other series and trilogies ending on Blu Ray (BttF, LoTR), and slapped stuff on the Blu Ray that wasn't on the DVD editions, and you're griping because Lucas is doing the same thing? i don't see how it matters to you if you're not planning on spending any money on the new versions.


 

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At least it is not a remake of the original Star Wars to make it fit with the prequel. Although, there would be a lot of happy Star Wars fans if they did a remake of the prequel that had the same appeal as the original.


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he's released a dvd edition of the original, pre-special edition original trilogy, so it's not unreasonable to think he'd include it on one or more of the blu-ray sets as well.

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At least it is not a remake of the original Star Wars to make it fit with the prequel.
Lucas will commit that atrocity when he has to digitize the original trilogy to make the 3D versions of them.
Just give him some time.


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How many times is that series going to be re-re-re-re-re-released? Each time with yet more commentary by the 2nd Assistant Sub-altern Vice-Gaffer's Cousin's Nephew's Former Roommate?
Until it stops making money.


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more than 30 hours of extensive special features including never-before-seen deleted and alternate scenes
Who waits 30+ years to release deleted scenes to a film!?!


 

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Originally Posted by je_saist View Post
Actually that only happened because Wal-Mart threatened with not promoting or stocking Star Wars unless Wal-Mart got to sell DVD editions of the original, pre-special edition trilogy. LucasArts countered with requiring that the DVD prints be sold as bonus discs with the special editions, rather than allowing Wal-Mart to sell the originals without the special editions.

Or did you just forget the whole thing with those DVD editions of the original, pre-special edition trilogy being a Wal-Mart exclusive: http://jediinsider.com/index.php?catid=243&itemid=9773
I didn't know, and I don't care. The reason they were available isn't important to me, the fact that they were available is. There's no reason to believe that, either for the same reasons or for others, there necessarily couldn't be versions of the non-special editions included. Whether that happens because Wal-Mart throws a fit or because Lucas smartens up and realizes people want them really isn't my concern.


 

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Who waits 30+ years to release deleted scenes to a film!?!
You'll notice that bit refers to the complete saga set, which includes the three newer films. My guess is that most, possibly all of the "never before seen" stuff is from those.


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Who waits 30+ years to release deleted scenes to a film!?!
Well even "normal" movies tend to have dozens if not hundreds of hours worth of leftover footage that usually never sees the light of day. When those movies are made into DVDs they'll usually scrape together the best leftover hour or two for their "special features" and be done with it.

Star Wars on the other hand is a huge franchise which as we all know has been around for decades. If we can assume it had several 100 hours of deleted/unused footage spread across all the movies there are probably still a few of those hours worth that we haven't seen yet. The only real difference between the Star Wars movies and regular movies in this regard is that people are still buying enough of the various releases for them to keep digging down through the remaining hours worth of leftovers.


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Who waits 30+ years to release deleted scenes to a film!?!
George Lucas.

Actually, to be honest, some of this stuff probably has taken this "long" to recover. When the prequel trilogy was announced, LucasArts started work on recovering the original Star Wars film: http://savestarwars.com/filmpreservation.html

I'd actually recommend picking up the DVD release of the 1938 Adventures of Robin Hood: http://www.amazon.com/Adventures-Rob...4419920&sr=8-1

The bonus disc has a segment on the history of Technicolor and how it compared to other film technologies. As best as I can research, Star Wars: New Hope, nor the other 2 movies, were filmed in a Technicolor strip format. Although color was by Technicolor, the 1970's were a turning point towards the film industry using the Kodak-Eastman format: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technic...or_and_decline

The 1974 GodFather II was the last film to use Technicolor's Dye Transfer format... which meant that Star Wars: A New Hope and the following two movies had to be filmed in the Kodak-Eastman format.

From a physical film standpoint the Kodak-Eastman format lacked the longevity of even the 2-strip Technicolor dye transfer format. The result that was just 2 decades later, the original source footage for Star Wars: A New Hope had lost a great deal of quality. Darth Vader's cloak, for example, was blue instead of black.

For the 20th anniversary, LucasArts worked on restoring the original films to their original color qualities: http://secrethistoryofstarwars.com/savingstarwars.html http://savestarwars.com/filmpreservation.html

It there-for, is possible, if not likely, that many of the side-cuts of various filmed scenes, deleted scenes, and shots of the set, were also in a similar deteriorated state. It isn't entirely unreasonable to assume that these side-cuts required similar levels of restoration that the original film required.

It also is not entirely unreasonable to assume that George Lucas and LucasArts are paying for the restoration of these side-cuts out of their own pocket, where-as the restoration of the original films was largely paid for by 20th Century Fox. Assuming that George Lucas and LucasArts are footing the bill themselves, and doing the work on their own time, it not entirely unreasonable to assume that any restoration work is being done off the clock, or being done as part of the experimental process of creating new technology to recover and remaster deteriorated films.

Ergo, it is not entirely unreasonable to assume that it really would take over 30+ years for such side-cuts to be made available.

The fact is, many side-cuts from the big motion picture films are often discarded, and simply written off. Deleted scenes from the films of Cary Grant, Bob Hope, Bing Crosby, or Douglas Fairbanks Jr are likely never going to be recovered or restored. We know that the estates of many a Hollywood Star also sit on footage that has never been released to the public, often because that film is not in a condition that it could be released to the public (Fred Astaire and Frank Sinatra stand as two examples).

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Now, on the subject of using footage as a retail prop? Well, yeah. At this point, it is more than a little tacky of LucasArts to still be trotting out never before seen footage.