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I feel bad for Statesman...

Adeon Hawkwood

By Adeon Hawkwood,
Posted on: 2011-01-02 18:13 in CoH and CoV General Discussions

 

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If you guys want some really fantastic Fusionette/Swan action you should track down Douglas Shuler and toss him some cash. Support the arts!

Although until I checked out his website I hadn't realized his art was used on one of the earliest overpowered Magic the Gathering cards.

Hell, he already has working Statesman and Lord Recluse assets and those two have some things they could work out between eachother.

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Golden Girl can you make a Mirror Spirit model?
Her hair is quite complex with the pins and ribbons, and her jacket/coat thing is also a bit unusal, but I might be able to get somehting that's close-ish to her look - who did you have in mide as her partner?

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Her hair is quite complex with the pins and ribbons,
So you're having trouble animating hair? :P

 

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I just really like her model but every animation I try to use with demorecord has such bad clipping issues.

Is Penelope Yin a legal age to use in this sort of endeavorer?

 

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Just jam a stick through her head and it'll be close enough to what she's got.

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Is Penelope Yin a legal age to use in this sort of endeavorer?
yes. she's supposed to be a college freshman.

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I just really like her model but every animation I try to use with demorecord has such bad clipping issues.

Is Penelope Yin a legal age to use in this sort of endeavorer?

 

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Originally Posted by Marcian Tobay View Post
So you're having trouble animating hair? :P
I salute you.

Well played.

 

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I'm working on something fun and interactive for this thread but I have stuff to do.
When I finthis I'm going to move it to the front and back of the thread.

I would appreciate technical support. I want there to be a section where people can pick pro shipping or anti shipping photos to respond to this thread or a future thread. It has to be supper easy, I don't want people having to type any code out, but cut and paste isn't too much to ask anybody.

If I use tinyurl in my code line for the image, will that expire at some point?

Is there a way to get the code box to not show the photo?

I'm getting this awesome peepshow effect right now in the code box. At first I thought it was a maybe a problem with chrome but its happening on all three browsers. Explorer is even showing the transparent part of the image as a milky white. I have this great idea for peepshow night but I would need to be able to control the size of the code box, is there a way to control code box size with BBcode?

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While this train is off the tracks...

I haven't followed comic books actively since the 'X-Craze" of the early 90s, and apparently missed a lot of development since then. This was back when Rob Liefield was doing X-Force, and like, Nike commercials, and Peter David was writing the now-classic X-Factor issues that often avoided fight scenes to talk about character's feelings (including one fairly well remembered issue that took place entirely in a psychiatrist's office).

So, fast forward 19 years, to 2009. Peter David is back on X-Factor, and they have a Statesline of their own when Shattershot and Rictor get involved with each other. Liefield gets on his message board, announces that the Shattershot character wasn't gay when he created him, and that if he ever gets a say in it he plans to"undo" that plot decision.

Now it so happens that this gets reported on a a certain blog. And that's how this thread got started, in which the current writer and original creator exchange barbs: http://robot6.comicbookresources.com...r-development/ (You have to scroll a ways down to see the start of the action).

It's such a bizarre look into the same issues we've sort of been talking around, in terms of character identity, good writing, and 'canon.' It's also funny to watch two famous comic book gurus flame each other too, just like we do.

 

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I believe the phychiatrist's name was Leonard Samson. David use that character really well in all the tittles he was writing at the time. David wrote this fantastic issue of the Hulk where one of Rick James' friends dies of AIDs. The whole story takes place at the side of the friends death bed.

I hope Rob dresses up like one of his charaters from the 90s and ends up poking his eye out on the shoulder pad.

I'm kidding Leifieldites, don't worry, someday that box of X-Force #1, with multiple copies of each variant cover will be worth something.


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Just jam a stick through her head and it'll be close enough to what she's got.
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So you're having trouble animating hair? :P
I laughed so hard I got a slight chaffing from my tee shirt on my nipple.

 

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I hope Rob dresses up like one of his charaters from the 90s and ends up poking his eye out on the shoulder pad.

At least he'd have a pouch to put it in.

 

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I'll give a dollar to anyone that can remember what this thread was actually about without flipping back to the first page.

 

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I just hope someone in a cubicle at Paragon Studios reads this thread and thinks 'I have the coolest job ever.'

 

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I'm just thrilled I had a hand in this. This is one of the events that college professors study.

 

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I'll give a dollar to anyone that can remember what this thread was actually about without flipping back to the first page.

If you really think about it, you guys didn't really derail it. The original topic was about Statesman being lonely. Thinking about where were at, it's not an inconceivable notion.

 

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I'll give a dollar to anyone that can remember what this thread was actually about without flipping back to the first page.
the only reason i can is it reminded me veats have a storyline, i got so stuck on rwz runs and co op stuff, neither veat has done it for a long time. i really need to play it some day. heats re the same, i made a warshade last week, adn pretty much bumped into her contact, took me a sec to remember they had a separate story.

 

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I'm not stepping on the sexuality landmine this thread seems to want to become.

Regarding retconning characters, I think there are OK ways to make changes, even retroactively, as long as it doesn't slap longtime readers in the face (say, the way Alan Moore transformed Swamp Thing into an elemental, which didn't alienate anyone. Now if he only understood Rorschach/The Question/Mr. A). But some writers just say "ah, it was never that way, and even if it was, it sucked!" The first example that always comes to mind with this for me is the Adam Strange mini-series from the early 90s or so, where Strange cheats on his pregnant wife, as I recall. I always thought Strange was a very heroic type, and given that he went through hell every month to catch a zeta-beam just to BE with his girlfriend/wife, he seems like one of the last characters I would expect to go out and get some...er...strange (and as a guy who's been catching the United Airlines "zeta-beam" just to have a few brief moments with my g/f for seven years now, I relate to the guy). But no, the writer apparently wanted the shock value of making it an established character, and the name recognition that OTHER writers had earned for Adam Strange. Yeah, maybe I'm a "moldy fig," as they say, but it just seems to me that some things shouldn't be tinkered with on a whim.

I touch on this just a bit with the forthcoming Twilight Guardian #3 (hey, if I'm writing from all the way in Vancouver, I deserve at least one cheap plug).
Plug accepted!

I agree with you wholeheartedly there...these days it seems 'retcon' equates to 'character revision' for a lot of writers and if they're from a generation that may not get the moral stances of prior ones, they find them two-dimensional or even stupid. I think that's a bit laughable considering the generation that grew up in World War II particularly faced true genuine shades of grey and evil in the world, then saw the rise of McCarthyism in the U.S. barely a decade later.

For me, looking over Identity Crisis was repugnant to me as a reader because the solution to the **** of Jean Loring by Doctor Light (seriously? I mean...seriously?) came off as a Jack Bauer/24 solution rather than something consistent with those characters. And I always have to stand by that consistency over anything else, even if their moral or ethical stances seem outdated to more recent generations. Characters can grow and evolve into new times and to me that just requires a bit of forethought and respect for the character concerned.


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Heh. Well, as far as we know, Marcus has been celibate and single ever since Monica died ... that's more than twenty years now.

Surely they'd be okay with him dating NOW ...

(Or maybe not. Maybe he's waiting for them to both die before he resumes dating.)*



*Anyone remember Night Court? There was an episode about a couple of brawling older folks. Judge Harry asks them why they haven't divorced, and they reply they don't want to upset the kids and they're waiting for the kids to die before they get divorced.

That just sort of caught my eye....maybe it's the older person or the Silver Ager in me, but if States hasn't wanted to be with anyone since his wife died, that makes me feel both a bit of respect and sad for him. Respect that he loved his wife so much he hadn't thought about anyone else since then, and sad that he probably feels a lot more alone in the world than we think he is.


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That just sort of caught my eye....maybe it's the older person or the Silver Ager in me, but if States hasn't wanted to be with anyone since his wife died, that makes me feel both a bit of respect and sad for him. Respect that he loved his wife so much he hadn't thought about anyone else since then, and sad that he probably feels a lot more alone in the world than we think he is.


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And that's why under Statesman's character sheet entry on tropes wiki I included Iron Woobie.

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