Vincent Ross Arc (Spoilers)
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Posted on: 2010-12-08 17:47 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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Only 1 of the final 6 Portals take you where you need to go.|
Originally Posted by Blood_Beret
The end of the Third Section there were 6 portals. I did not check one of them, but 1 went to the next section and the other 4 was the cave room.
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Supposedly, the correct one looks different. I've yet to see it, however.
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It's the arrangement of the torches in front of the portal.|
Originally Posted by Kheldarn
Only 1 of the final 6 Portals take you where you need to go.
Supposedly, the correct one looks different. I've yet to see it, however. |
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In the briefing of the mission, you're told that you'll want to go into the correct portals as dictated in a clue dropped by the boss (Well, Lieutenant but he's spawned like one) you fight towards the entrance. Otherwise, you'll end up in the cave room like you did. With the first two portal sets, the clue pretty much outright says whether you should go into a portal with a red color or not. With the last one, the portal that looks different is the one you want, but the difference is sort of subtle. If you want a hint, look at them from the side. If that's not enough, look at the way the torches are arranged in front of each one.|
Originally Posted by Blood_Beret
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Find Bolt mission. First room has 2 potals. One portal leads to the next section of the map(like elevators/lifts). The other teleports you to a cave room full of Spectal Lts(lots like 2 spawns of 10 for me they were +1). The portal out is on the other side of the room. The end of the second section is 3 portals. 1 allows you to continue, the other 2 are to another Cave room. The end of the Third Section there were 6 portals. I did not check one of them, but 1 went to the next section and the other 4 was the cave room. When exiting the cave room, you back at the begining of the mission. |
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I personally thought having a little puzzle mission was a nice touch but I imagine not everyone agrees.
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Fight the Legacy Chain Army. Similar to the first mission of the Alpha Slot arc, you are buffed. I quit counting the waves of massive ambushes. 4 boss(LT scaled with stone pet) 2 oe 3 Lts, and 6 or so minions. You only get xp for minions. On a Bots FF it took forever to kill all these masses. Overall I felt that the mission was so monotonous that it took the fun out of the mission. Anyone else get that feeling. |
As for the XP issues, I thought we were lucky to get any XP at all in that mission, since nothing in the mission posed even the slightest threat thanks to the buff we had. I suspect the Devs probably didn't want people to farm the mission but didn't want it to be a total waste of time either, hence why we got some XP but not a whole lot.
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I still need to get that one on my badger and if there are a lot of Lts that get spawned.... 
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I must have missed those clues, but I don't remember any of the NPC's saying anything.
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Botis, not Bolt.|
Originally Posted by Blood_Beret
Find Bolt mission.
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Originally Posted by Blood_Beret
I must have missed those clues, but I don't remember any of the NPC's saying anything.
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the first portal is the one shrouded in the color of anguish
the second portal is the one not the color of anguish
the third portal is which is unique to all the others.
Or some mumbo jumbo
Here are the portals in Question
notice the one in the very front, the one that is unique to all the others. Thats not the unique one you're looking for. The unique one you're looking for is in the 3rd row.
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I think this is the best arc in CoX, but I wouldn't play through that last mission solo on a MA stalker. My favorite part is fighting off Task Force Overdrive
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So I am doing it on another character. The portal hints aren't said by the NPC, you have to look in the clues.
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The Clues provide a clue?! Unpossible!!
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Originally Posted by Blood_Beret
So I am doing it on another character. The portal hints aren't said by the NPC, you have to look in the clues.
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Well I was under the impression it was like Darrin Wades arc, where the NPC tells you the phrase. Guess that is why I never saw the hints.|
Originally Posted by Zombie Man
The Clues provide a clue?! Unpossible!!
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But that is what I get for Assuming, and everyone knows what that means
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I loved it! I was actually stuck for a good few minutes looking at the six portals and wondering which one is "different".
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Originally Posted by Mekkanos
I personally thought having a little puzzle mission was a nice touch but I imagine not everyone agrees.
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I was lucky in the multiple-portals room; I just guessed and got it right the first time.
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I just found out the temp disguise power you get in Darrin Wade's arc keeps the demons from attacking you if you pick the wrong portal. 
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Try a Claws stalker, fresh from Praetoria. It's a fun mission, but there's a distinct feeling of "Haven't they figured out they won't win yet?" after a while. Though Overdrive's TF does make up for it. Getting to be the AV was pretty awesome.
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Originally Posted by warden_de_dios
I think this is the best arc in CoX, but I wouldn't play through that last mission solo on a MA stalker.
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I think they do, although gladiators don't have progress bars so it's hard to be sure. Overdrive's Task Force definitely counts toward Hero Slayer.
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Originally Posted by Energizing_Ion
Hmm, I'm assuming that the Legacy Chain Lts. in this arc count towards the gladiator badge for the Legacy Chain?
I still need to get that one on my badger and if there are a lot of Lts that get spawned.... |
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There are, as a point of fact, 10 ambushes per trigger. I counted their NPC dialogue entries when it was all said an done.|
Originally Posted by Blood_Beret
Ambush triggers in 2 or 3 of the missions after defeating each amush another follows, and so on... they had to be atleast 5 or 6 chained ambushes.
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I'm not sure what the thinking was behind including nearly a dozen ambushes per mission. Maybe that you'd hurry and complete the mission while fighting off the ambushes. This doesn't work, because the game is incapable of spawning infinite ambushes without separate triggers, so you can bet that any ambush spam will eventually end. At such a point, simply waiting for them to end is the easiest approach.
As far as the arc itself goes, its' one of my favourites, as well. The writing in that arc is exquisite! I keep using Vincent Ross as evidence that Paragon Studios still employ talented writers. The lore of the arc is... A mess, but at least the arc's internal logic is sound, the writing is solid, the plot strokes the ego and it does at least SOMEWHAT tie into existing canon. I give it an A- for effort, but needlessly making up lore where it isn't required.
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What do you mean by this? I'm not a lore junkie by a long shot, but as far as I can tell all the arc did was explain the leviathan-golem-coralax-merulina connection (which we knew existed), basically tying up the Sharkhead storyline.
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
As far as the arc itself goes, its' one of my favourites, as well. The writing in that arc is exquisite! I keep using Vincent Ross as evidence that Paragon Studios still employ talented writers. The lore of the arc is... A mess, but at least the arc's internal logic is sound, the writing is solid, the plot strokes the ego and it does at least SOMEWHAT tie into existing canon. I give it an A- for effort, but needlessly making up lore where it isn't required.
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I didn't even know he existed until someone told me. Luckily I have an up-and-coming villain who should get him in 5 more levels.
Speaking of not knowing about him... someone should update the Sharkhead wiki page to include him as a special contact.
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Merulina was related to the Coralax. The Leviathan was summoned by the Coralax to get rid of the Mu. Merulina was not connected to the Leviathan, until now. Merulina was a space god. Some mysterious "entity" powering her was just made up for Vincent Ross's arc. The Blood Coral was just made up. The demon bound by the Midnighters was just made up. The Coralax twisting people's memories was just made up.|
Originally Posted by SlyGuyMcFly
What do you mean by this? I'm not a lore junkie by a long shot, but as far as I can tell all the arc did was explain the leviathan-golem-coralax-merulina connection (which we knew existed), basically tying up the Sharkhead storyline.
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The other problem with people you just made up is that they ask us to trust them but we have no reason to, especially redside. Virgil Tarikoss is more trustworthy than this Vincent guy I just met...and he tried to have me killed.
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I'm going to take issue with this last bit. The Coralax didn't change Vincent's memory, his exposure simply...tinted his worldview, and we already have precedent for that bit, since Barracuda's origin is effectively the same thing.
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Originally Posted by Eva Destruction
The Coralax twisting people's memories was just made up.
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Ok, fair point.
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Originally Posted by Lazarillo
I'm going to take issue with this last bit. The Coralax didn't change Vincent's memory, his exposure simply...tinted his worldview, and we already have precedent for that bit, since Barracuda's origin is effectively the same thing.
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Well, the mysterious entity behind these powerful beings we already knew about - this is just a rare moment of candour. The demon was a bit of decorative detail on the side, not really related to the Leviathan's lore. The only really new news is the relation of Merulina to the Leviathan, and the use of the Blood Coral. Speaking for myself, my constitution is sound enough to withstand two revelations per arc.
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Originally Posted by Eva Destruction
Merulina was related to the Coralax. The Leviathan was summoned by the Coralax to get rid of the Mu. Merulina was not connected to the Leviathan, until now. Merulina was a space god. Some mysterious "entity" powering her was just made up for Vincent Ross's arc. The Blood Coral was just made up. The demon bound by the Midnighters was just made up. The Coralax twisting people's memories was just made up.
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We knew about a mysterious entity behind...Merulina? Funny, I thought Merulina was a mysterious entity in her own right, being a space god and all.|
Originally Posted by SirFrederick
Well, the mysterious entity behind these powerful beings we already knew about - this is just a rare moment of candour. The demon was a bit of decorative detail on the side, not really related to the Leviathan's lore. The only really new news is the relation of Merulina to the Leviathan, and the use of the Blood Coral. Speaking for myself, my constitution is sound enough to withstand two revelations per arc.
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These aren't revelations. "Oranbegans wear humans like cheap suits" is a revelation. "Rikti are mutated humans" is a revelation. This is stuff they just made up to shoehorn the Well in there (Merulina), give us the illusion of choice (Botis) and give us a temp buff while pretending they're "making villains feel powerful and evil" (Blood Coral). There's a difference.
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So I ran Vincent Ross's Arc. The story line was pretty good. But there are parts of the missions got monotonous. I was set to +0 x1
Ambush triggers in 2 or 3 of the missions after defeating each amush another follows, and so on... they had to be atleast 5 or 6 chained ambushes.
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Find Bolt mission.
First room has 2 potals. One portal leads to the next section of the map(like elevators/lifts). The other teleports you to a cave room full of Spectal Lts(lots like 2 spawns of 10 for me they were +1). The portal out is on the other side of the room.
The end of the second section is 3 portals. 1 allows you to continue, the other 2 are to another Cave room.
The end of the Third Section there were 6 portals. I did not check one of them, but 1 went to the next section and the other 4 was the cave room.
When exiting the cave room, you back at the begining of the mission.
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Fight the Legacy Chain Army.
Similar to the first mission of the Alpha Slot arc, you are buffed. I quit counting the waves of massive ambushes. 4 boss(LT scaled with stone pet) 2 oe 3 Lts, and 6 or so minions. You only get xp for minions. On a Bots FF it took forever to kill all these masses.
Overall I felt that the mission was so monotonous that it took the fun out of the mission. Anyone else get that feeling.
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