Does Alpha Effect Domination.


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As title says, does anyone have a definitive answer on whether the Spiritual tree that increases recharge effects the dominator's inherent power, Domination.


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If it does, it's a bug. You can't enhance Domination so the spiritual alpha shouldn't affect it, nor should it be affecting things like Sands of Mu.

Only global recharge bonuses and buffs should affect it. That being said, I don't have a low recharge rate dom at 50 to try it on, but if the slot works correctly, it won't affect it.


 

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I am planning on getting my Dom comfortably perma and then using my Alpha to do something else - Probably increase damage.

I just heard someone in the Scrapper forum say a Dom had solo'd the LRSF.


 

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Originally Posted by Blue_Centurion View Post
I am planning on getting my Dom comfortably perma and then using my Alpha to do something else - Probably increase damage.

I just heard someone in the Scrapper forum say a Dom had solo'd the LRSF.
My Domi is running 173.75 % Recharge atm, I was hoping that the alpha would get me permadom without hasten.


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Originally Posted by Donna_ View Post
My Domi is running 173.75 % Recharge atm, I was hoping that the alpha would get me permadom without hasten.
Ich, i dont even know how, i have a brute i abused into getting 127.5% global recharge without hasten, and I dont think i could cram another 15% on to save my life. How the heck did you get 170+ lol?

But seriously, taking hasten doesnt bother me on a dom, I already have to be aware of the dom click anyways, so the added task is easy. And the one extra power, meh, especially after i19. i would love to have another power, but then, thats almost exactly what permadom is, only better.


 

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Originally Posted by Donna_ View Post
My Domi is running 173.75 % Recharge atm, I was hoping that the alpha would get me permadom without hasten.
My understanding is that it does not. From what I gathered the Alpha Slot increases the recharge, for Spiritual, on your enhancements in a power. It does not affect the global recharge in a character.

As a visualization, look at the numbers in your Power management screen and the Powers attribute. The global recharge number doesn't change even when you slot the Alpha. But if you go to the Powers management screen and place your arrow over a power, it shows the "recharge" on a power to increase a certain percentage.


 

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It does not affect Domination. If you cannot socket a recharge enhancer into the skill, it will not receive any benefit. Domination has no sockets, so...


 

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No it does. It works like a normal enhancer which means you must be able to slot the power with recharge. You cannot slot Domination.


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It is fair to mention that the Alpha slot does effect "Hasten"...which in turn effects Domination (and all your other recharging powers). So while not directly affecting Domination it certainly can contribute significantly.

I.E. if Hasten is up more frequently, Domination will be up more frequently. I'm thinking of Going Recharge/Stun on my Fire/Psi/Ice Domi.


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Fly Agaric 50 Plant/Thorn
Nate Nitro 50 Fire/Psi

 

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Originally Posted by Blue_Centurion View Post
Ich, i dont even know how, i have a brute i abused into getting 127.5% global recharge without hasten, and I dont think i could cram another 15% on to save my life. How the heck did you get 170+ lol?
I assume that's the value including Hasten, as they mentioned that they weren't permadom without it.


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Originally Posted by Blue_Centurion View Post
Ich, i dont even know how, i have a brute i abused into getting 127.5% global recharge without hasten, and I dont think i could cram another 15% on to save my life. How the heck did you get 170+ lol?

But seriously, taking hasten doesnt bother me on a dom, I already have to be aware of the dom click anyways, so the added task is easy. And the one extra power, meh, especially after i19. i would love to have another power, but then, thats almost exactly what permadom is, only better.
I'm awful about clicking powers like Dom/Hasten. What I did instead is set my forwards movement key to load a bind file, and that file sets Hasten to autocast, and then loads another bind file which then puts it back to Dom.

So what happens is as long as I don't stand still (and I rarely do) I can completely ignore Dom/Hasten and just let them activate automatically.

Note: I didn't come up with the bind idea myself.


 

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Originally Posted by Fiery-Enforcer View Post
I assume that's the value including Hasten, as they mentioned that they weren't permadom without it.
Yea that's right, I am only 3-5 seconds off permadom without hasten, so I am well over permadom with it.

the 173% is including hasten but if I forget to click it mid battle it can drop, or if I go afk inbetween missions it will also drop, would be nice to have Hasten as an extra and auto que Domination and forget about it.


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Originally Posted by Donna_ View Post
As title says, does anyone have a definitive answer on whether the Spiritual tree that increases recharge effects the dominator's inherent power, Domination.
The Alpha bonus contributes to the benefit of any power that can be enhanced, so while it does not directly affect [Domination] it can benefit [Hasten]... so it will affect the final recharge some. Just not a lot.


edit: I should have read all the way down the thread, I see now this was already mentioned. *slinks away to drink more coffee*


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Originally Posted by RiverOcean View Post
It is fair to mention that the Alpha slot does effect "Hasten"...which in turn effects Domination (and all your other recharging powers). So while not directly affecting Domination it certainly can contribute significantly.

I.E. if Hasten is up more frequently, Domination will be up more frequently. I'm thinking of Going Recharge/Stun on my Fire/Psi/Ice Domi.
This is true until you reach perma-hasten. At which point it has zero effect.


 

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I am having an "interesting" time just getting to permadom WITH hasten. It is expensive!

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125% recharge from IO's and you don't need hasten.


 

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Originally Posted by Donna_ View Post
Yea that's right, I am only 3-5 seconds off permadom without hasten, so I am well over permadom with it.

the 173% is including hasten but if I forget to click it mid battle it can drop, or if I go afk inbetween missions it will also drop, would be nice to have Hasten as an extra and auto que Domination and forget about it.
I don't see why you would want to auto que Domination. It's most effective when you hit certain spawns like bosses and EBs/AVs. You don't want to continually activate it when it comes up because there are always more strategic times to click it.


 

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Originally Posted by concreteshift View Post
I don't see why you would want to auto que Domination. It's most effective when you hit certain spawns like bosses and EBs/AVs. You don't want to continually activate it when it comes up because there are always more strategic times to click it.
I'm not sure I follow. If you're at perma-dom as long as you keep up on clicking Domination when it becomes available you're not only in Domination at the more strategic times but at the less strategic times as well.


 

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Originally Posted by Dromio View Post
I'm not sure I follow. If you're at perma-dom as long as you keep up on clicking Domination when it becomes available you're not only in Domination at the more strategic times but at the less strategic times as well.
and you don't have to worry about being out of domination at a strategic time. you may not always know when you are going to run into a nasty boss fight and want domination on.


 

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Originally Posted by kendo View Post
and you don't have to worry about being out of domination at a strategic time. you may not always know when you are going to run into a nasty boss fight and want domination on.
And you don't always have Frenzy or other enemies in the mission to refill your Domination bar for these instances.


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I tried the tactic of binding Domination to the forward move key, with hasten on Auto. However it drove me nuts to have the "bzzt" sound of a power that isn't ready whenever I moved. I turned that sound off, but it is handy in combat.

My solution was to use Herostats. I never cared about the stats or badge tracking uses of Herostats, but I realized it had buff tracking. I could set it to ding whenever Domination recharged. It worked perfectly, and I used it from level 30-50.

When I hit 50 I added a bunch of recharge and got to permaHasten. At that point I switched Domination to auto and I use Herostats to warn me when Hasten is ready. It is really an automatic response now. I hear a ding and I press Hasten.


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Originally Posted by Eek a Mouse View Post
I tried the tactic of binding Domination to the forward move key, with hasten on Auto. However it drove me nuts to have the "bzzt" sound of a power that isn't ready whenever I moved. I turned that sound off, but it is handy in combat.

My solution was to use Herostats. I never cared about the stats or badge tracking uses of Herostats, but I realized it had buff tracking. I could set it to ding whenever Domination recharged. It worked perfectly, and I used it from level 30-50.

When I hit 50 I added a bunch of recharge and got to permaHasten. At that point I switched Domination to auto and I use Herostats to warn me when Hasten is ready. It is really an automatic response now. I hear a ding and I press Hasten.
This is a good tip. I ended up going with Spiritual but I'll probably do Musclature too. My "sort of perma" dom works much better now. I really didn't feel like playing the market and countless hours of farming to get a bunch of purples. I picked up Spiritual in a simple evening of gaming (two TF's). The extra recharge in hasten seems to have done the trick. Plus I'm Fire/Psi/Ice. So the going the "stun" or "healing" paths in Spiritual all have a nice benefit.

Can't wait to see what Musculature will do for this Dom. The Alpha slot and boosts are really fun. I think I prefer them to recipes. They are easy to get and create.


My level 50 Dominators:
Madame Mindbender 50 Mind/Energy
Fly Agaric 50 Plant/Thorn
Nate Nitro 50 Fire/Psi

 

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I remember domination building on damage done (err pain inflicted), was this changed when my back was turned (while I was playing wow)?