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So this thread can be summed up by "Waaah too hard I didn't read anything why is everyone laughing"?
That is an accurate summation of the thread.


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Gah! Cricket bat!!

That is an excellent image.

Cricket's not a well known game, with only about 1.5 billion followers globally. Small beans really



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Ok in retrospect I will say I don't think the arc to introduce us to Incarnates is actually very good in terms of vehicle or story - but most mandatory arcs, the Montague Castanella or the Invention arcs aren't brilliant either and this comes up a shade below them IMO but it's easy enough to do so is simply something to be endured rather than enjoyed.



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That is an excellent image.

Cricket's not a well known game, with only about 1.5 billion followers globally. Small beans really
Yet only 77.7 million watched the 2010 Champions League...can't be that good of a sport if less then 6 percent of followers bother to watch.


 

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Wow...

Obvious troll is... ridiculously successful


 

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Two lines down from your release note quote:


If all else fails, minor Incarnate Shards sub-components for constructing your Alpha Abilities can also be occasionally acquired off of level 50+ foes and level 50 players in PVP.

I got 8 shards in an hour farming the wall in Cim Sat......this thread makes my head hurt.






 

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That is an excellent image.

Cricket's not a well known game, with only about 1.5 billion followers globally. Small beans really
heh. Nice tongue-in-cheek flatline there.

I think the problem for US (CoH) players is that over here we have baseball and american football... while outside of our borders there is Cricket and Football / Soccer. Tends to create quite a cultural disconnect, combined with marketing companies eager to toss world-wide onto sports (E.G., World Series, but last time I checked Japan wasn't exactly invited to participate, and they've got a pretty good baseball system).

Anyways, for those who are used to Baseball and look at Cricket with complete and absolute confusion (like me), David Morgan Mar has a pretty good write-up of Cricket when compared to Baseball: http://www.dangermouse.net/cricket/


 

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In my case, because I enjoy the general gameplay and the costume creator. I tried joining PUGs, and even an actual super group when I first started playing. I found PUGs less than likable because I seemed to constantly run into people who were bad players, or actual build fascists. And I ended up setting all my characters to hidden from my own SG, because I quickly got fed up with the other members *demanding* that I come team with them, regardless of what I was already doing. (Quite often, they didn't even have the courtesy to phrase it as a request. Not "Oh, hey fellow team member. Are you busy? Would you like to help me out with this?" No, instead I got "You're in our SG and we want two more people for this team. Get over here now.") Now all my characters are in one of my solo SGs, and all of them are hidden from searches as soon as they are made.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I play MMOs because I like something about the game enough to tolerate the fact that there are other people logged in at the same time. I play *despite* the massively multiplayer part, not because of it. Of the three MMOs that I spend any time playing, none of them particularly require teaming most of the time. I don't PVP, and I don't have any interest in "raid" style content. In fact, the main reason I'd stopped really playing the zillion pound gorilla of MMOs a good six months before I actually quit was that it became more and more apparent that there really wasn't much to do at the level cap if you didn't want to sign away your soul to a hardcore Raiding guild.
That's all fine. You enjoy yourself with the game and that's all that's needed.

It's still not a good reason to make *everything* soloable imo. I'm glad the Devs seem to agree on that.


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Ok in retrospect I will say I don't think the arc to introduce us to Incarnates is actually very good in terms of vehicle or story - but most mandatory arcs, the Montague Castanella or the Invention arcs aren't brilliant either and this comes up a shade below them IMO but it's easy enough to do so is simply something to be endured rather than enjoyed.
I think Ramiel's arc isn't all that bad really. It has a variety of enemy types, the maps aren't to big and the EB fights have a few fun twists to it, compared to other, older boss fights. It's a heck of a lot better than the villainside arc to unlock Cimerora anyway.


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It's still not a good reason to make *everything* soloable imo. I'm glad the Devs seem to agree on that.
Everything storywise, sure, I can buy that. Everything mechanics wise... Why not? Why must certain rewards have a "You must team with other people" component appended to them when some of us are perfectly fine earning team-centric rewards solo at a very reduced rate? Why do you require that I don't have something in particular?


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Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

 

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Everything storywise, sure, I can buy that. Everything mechanics wise... Why not? Why must certain rewards have a "You must team with other people" component appended to them when some of us are perfectly fine earning team-centric rewards solo at a very reduced rate? Why do you require that I don't have something in particular?
Let's just start with saying that I don't care (much) about rewards. I don't care if soloers earn everything at twice the pace teams do. Really. Heck I have a number of characters specificly for soloing myself, one even reached lvl 42 recently! Yey.

I do like team interactions. Difficult tasks were you need to do things as a team to complete it. Things you simply can't do solo. Things this game has way to few of imo. Hamidon, CoP, MR (only because you can't kill the pylons fast enough solo) are the only things I can think of really. Even the new Apex TF (which I like a lot) can, in theory, be done by single character if he's powerfull enough.

What I have a problem with is that if everything needs to be soloable, it all needs to be simplified and dumbed down so that one character can manage it.


@True Metal
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I'm a pom that plays on Justice with the Aussies in their prime time.

As suggested, join Justice United and Australia channels.

For trapdoor, pull him out of the room with the lava and into the corridor and he doesn't regen at all. He does however hit squishies like a truck, so bring plenty of insps particularly purples. Also set the mish to -1.

There are organised activities Mon-Wed-Fri by the Aussie community starting at I believe 8pm Sydney time, check on the Oceanic section of these boards, but the component dropping TFs are likely to be run on at least one of these (Weds I think this week). Certainly in the recent past, there have been enough people to do a mothership raid on some of these days.

I've been out of the loop for a week or so as staying up to listen to the cricket means I haven't been waking up early enough to take part in them.


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heh. Nice tongue-in-cheek flatline there.

I think the problem for US (CoH) players is that over here we have baseball and american football... while outside of our borders there is Cricket and Football / Soccer. Tends to create quite a cultural disconnect, combined with marketing companies eager to toss world-wide onto sports (E.G., World Series, but last time I checked Japan wasn't exactly invited to participate, and they've got a pretty good baseball system).

Anyways, for those who are used to Baseball and look at Cricket with complete and absolute confusion (like me), David Morgan Mar has a pretty good write-up of Cricket when compared to Baseball: http://www.dangermouse.net/cricket/
Nice find - I've bookmarked that to show other American friends - cricket used to be as popular in the US as baseball til the turn of the 20th Century and there are big moves afoot to reintroduce it to the USA. It'll inevitably become globally much more popular very quickly because this year China stated its intention to become a Test playing nation within 10 years which will put cricket up there with soccer as global sports

Which means we could get a cricket bat as a club in game!



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What I have a problem with is that if everything needs to be soloable, it all needs to be simplified and dumbed down so that one character can manage it.
Again, that's every REWARD, not every TASK. Certain tasks are simply designed in such a way that they really couldn't be soloable even if you let AVs scale down. The Hydra Trial comes to mind - you can't break the generators fast enough to give you enough shield-down time on the head if you're working alone. I don't believe Romulus would be doable even as an EB, simply because you'd be fighting four EBs at once, and pretty cheap EBs, to boot.

Not all tasks can be soloable even if the developer chose to apply solo rules to them. That's just how it goes. However, all rewards need to be soloable in SOME way that can be described as more efficient than hunting down that one Infected that spawned in the train station in Recluse's Victory once in a blue moon. That's all I'm sayin' and, so far, that's what they've been doing.

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I just hope we get Incarnate story arcs in addition to the TFs. I'd hate to think that Incarnates aren't strong enough to do anything meaningful on their own.


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Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

 

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face it the game is old and all these updates are just lipstick on a pig
Thing is, nobody else has made a fancier pig yet. Well, Minecraft has some pretty good ones, but that's a different kind of pig and the multiplayer part sucks. So as much as I might want to move on from CoH, it's still the best thing to play out there.


 

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I'm Australian but I have found one of the few benefits of working nights.


 

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Thing is, nobody else has made a fancier pig yet. Well, Minecraft has some pretty good ones, but that's a different kind of pig and the multiplayer part sucks. So as much as I might want to move on from CoH, it's still the best thing to play out there.
I've seen all possible competition. None of it has held my interest for more than a day. When I bought City of Heroes, I actually almost flunked out of college for the first week thereafter. I was convinced that I'd only play the game for a week and drop it, and here I am almost seven years later. Ain't no other MMO that I've seen or heard of that could do that.


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Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

 

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This means you defeated him. Now you click on him to talk to him.
He was completely covered by lava and it wouldn't let me :-(


 

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He was completely covered by lava and it wouldn't let me :-(
By your own admission in this post you could.

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clicking, tabbing no difference, I could select him and watch his heath but I couldn't attack.
If you could select him you could talk to him. Lava doesn't block line of sight. Even if you had to get down in the lava next to him in order to be close enough to start the conversation you could have done it without fear of dying. Lava isn't an instant death feature in this game. You could have stood in the lava for 20 seconds or so, even longer if your character a self heal.

Sadly after you defeated Trapdoor you made the mistake of abandoning the mission when all you had to do to successfully complete it was talk to him.


 

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Everything storywise, sure, I can buy that. Everything mechanics wise... Why not? Why must certain rewards have a "You must team with other people" component appended to them when some of us are perfectly fine earning team-centric rewards solo at a very reduced rate? Why do you require that I don't have something in particular?
Because if everything is soloable that means you're going to be unable to create a whole lot of team-oriented gameplay (say a mission that requires you to push buttons simultaneously, to pick one that is actually in COH, not a very good example since that's not a very fun gameplay mechanic, but there are others)


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He was completely covered by lava and it wouldn't let me :-(
You are missing the point. You had defeated him, you don't have to kill/stun him into oblivion. At this point all you had to do was get physically close enough to him him so that when you clicked on him the final dialog box would come up. And even the squishiest character can survive walking in lava long enough to do that.

So essentially you have told us you had done everything in the mission but the very final step and went outside and abandoned it.

Note all you have to do is click on him not attack at that point.


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Solo +0/x2 rate so far: about a drop every 3-5 missions.

Purple drops at the same settings: once in a blue moon.
Good point here for people going for drops solo, whether it is Vanguard Merits, Shards, recipies or whatever. Leave difficulty at lowest level and crank up number of opponents as high as you can stand. Yes this favors AoE fighters. Cope. lol


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