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"Because space is big, really, really, really big." It's part of the NASA web site on why we don't have warp drives yet and what we need to get one. Yes that is a real NASA website. That quote is one of my favorite NASA quotes ever. It's an interesting page to read. |
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Interesting. So one(or a few even) scientist questioned another scientist's methods and results. I can't believe this would happen.
So the paper that shows how they found the microbe, not bug like these idiots keep saying, was peer reviewed and published and they held the conference... and now a bunch of scientists are saying there is something wrong and instead of testing it out they are just complaining like idiots...
I think that's part of the question this article is bringing to light.... the lack of peer review. Plus the fact that NASA made a big deal about this via a news conference but won't comment on it in the same media. I don't think anyone said anyone was an idiot, just that they questioned their methods. NASA did say they'd offer samples for others to test, but even that didn't sound so convincing.
No, actually, it's not. The article clearly states that the paper was peer reviewed and published. It's that several scientists don't think it should have been and when they are told to go do science, they are all like "well you made a media announcement so we can try to get some fame too!"
This media nonsense isn't at all what should be happening. What should be happening is those guys go and do the experiments without the "errors" they are claiming they made and then go "look this is what you said you did which caused this result you got, but when we did this it shows that your testing method is what caused the results to come up like so and not what it actually is"
That is all they need to do, but so far they are refusing to do so. The detractors may be right, but they are going about this nonsense the wrong way... and it is mainly a backlash because NASA didn't haul out ET and a lot of people are complete idiots when it comes to language.
Also, while NASA may have jumped the gun, I think it's ok for NASA to do from time to time because they get their funding from the government and as such need to announce something that might be important to the general public every now and then.
I think we just read completely different articles. Other than the last two or three paragraphs where the guy directly says they were being hypicrits, the rest of the article lists very specific things by (per the article) very knowledgeable people that the NASA researchers did/potentially did in error.
Does it say anything about them refusing to "do the science"? Not that I saw or read. I even went back and re-read it in case I had missed something in my comprehension of the English language. I have been known to be a "complete idiot when it comes to language" at times.
Again, this goes back to the arguement earlier that someone has come up with a scientific discovery; it's already been accepted by some people as accurate/fact/true/whatever and those people will not listen to an opposing view. Thanks for demonstrating my point.
I think we just read completely different articles. Other than the last two or three paragraphs where the guy directly says they were being hypicrits, the rest of the article lists very specific things by (per the article) very knowledgeable people that the NASA researchers did/potentially did in error.
Does it say anything about them refusing to "do the science"? Not that I saw or read. I even went back and re-read it in case I had missed something in my comprehension of the English language. I have been known to be a "complete idiot when it comes to language" at times. Again, this goes back to the arguement earlier that someone has come up with a scientific discovery; it's already been accepted by some people as accurate/fact/true/whatever and those people will not listen to an opposing view. Thanks for demonstrating my point. |
Anyone who understands science knows that what the paper's authors are quoted as having said in the article is exaclty right and exactly how science is done. And I will requote that here:
Originally Posted by Ronald Oremland
"If we are wrong, then other scientists should be motivated to reproduce our findings. If we are right (and I am strongly convinced that we are) our competitors will agree and help to advance our understanding of this phenomenon. I am eager for them to do so."
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Critics say that a few straightforward tests on the bacteria would show whether they really do have arsenic-based DNA once and for all. And the NASA scientists say they're ready to hand out GFAJ-1 to researchers who want to study it. |
But you can't just stop at questioning if you want to convince anyone. You have to take those questions and test them.
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My sarcastic surprise was just that.... sarcastic. Was I surprised someone questioned the original paper? No. Was I surprised someone questioned the questioning of the original paper? No. I just thought I'd try (unsuccessfully) to point out that there was more (though assumptive in nature) info to the OP. Next time I'll just link to the article and go on my merry way.
Oh I give up. I'm going back to drinking and just going to quit trying to make any points on the internet.
My sarcastic surprise was just that.... sarcastic. Was I surprised someone questioned the original paper? No. Was I surprised someone questioned the questioning of the original paper? No. I just thought I'd try (unsuccessfully) to point out that there was more (though assumptive in nature) info to the OP. Next time I'll just link to the article and go on my merry way.
Oh I give up. I'm going back to drinking and just going to quit trying to make any points on the internet. |
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They are searching for "Planet X"
The so called planet of Naberiu, where the Annanaki came from, and on this probe that they are sending out is followed by the message..
"You Gene-Altering Mutha-@$%#&'ers!!!"
True Story..
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