How long will the exploits go on?


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Now I want tea and stew.
I'm thinking dope and popcorn.


 

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Originally Posted by Jophiel View Post
I'm thinking dope and popcorn.
I want Miller Lite and Tequila.


 

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Originally Posted by MunkiLord View Post
I want Miller Lite and Tequila.
And sig'd.


 

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Originally Posted by Oedipus_Tex View Post
Just saw the exploit first hand. I would be very nervous about using it. It's egregious and obviously a bug. There is no way a reasonably experienced player could mistake it for mechanics that are working as intended.

As to how abusing this bug hurts other people? That part should be obvious. It illustrates that we can't be trusted with free-form mechanics like the AE, so we're increasingly less likely to be handed any.
Yeah, I saw it too. Ridiculously and obviously broken amounts of XP.

And boring as **** to boot.

All I can say is that i19 and the patch for it cannot come too soon.



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Pot meet kettle.
What have I said thus far that's unreasonable?

Seriously.

Is it reasonable to simply stop the release of an Issue where the exploit is fixed just to roll out the patch on a backport, with the accompanying amount of time for testing before release?

I simply find the notion that it is laughable. At best.



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Yeah, I saw it too. Ridiculously and obviously broken amounts of XP.

And boring as **** to boot.

All I can say is that i19 and the patch for it cannot come too soon.
I'm "meh" about it. It is boring as heck, though.


What I'm more concerned about is the guy trying to sell his WoW account on Atlas broadcast. True story. Exploit shmhexploit, I don't play with anyone under 9 months unless they seem genuine. *shrug* I'm a fascist.


 

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Originally Posted by RadDidIt View Post
And sig'd.
I win.

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What have I said thus far that's unreasonable?

Seriously.

Is it reasonable to simply stop the release of an Issue where the exploit is fixed just to roll out the patch on a backport, with the accompanying amount of time for testing before release?

I simply find the notion that it is laughable. At best.
Your points are sound and reasonable. But you finding hidden extreme meanings in people's posts(like the whining and nerdrage) is completely unreasonable. Because you made it up.


 

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I don't play with anyone under 9 months unless they seem genuine. *shrug* I'm a fascist.
Nothing wrong with that. I don't play with anyone unless they benefit me somehow(or at least I think they will). We all have our conditions.


 

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Nothing wrong with that. I don't play with anyone unless they benefit me somehow(or at least I think they will). We all have our conditions.
There is a small part of me, though, Munki, that remembers how tough it was when I first joined. How much I praised the first level 50 team in PI to let me come with them (at the time I was a level 18 rad/rad). It yanks on the heart strings; then I see they don't have a single vet badge and are level 40+. It's almost impossible; it took me about 10 months to get my first 50 because I coincidentally did every level-appropriate TF, respec, Trial.

The thing missing from these AE babies isn't experience and know-how... it's love of the game.


 

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The thing missing from these AE babies isn't just experience and know-how... it's love of the game.
Because it was the right word to add.


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Nothing wrong with that. I don't play with anyone unless they benefit me somehow(or at least I think they will). We all have our conditions.
So claiming that the devs have been on "a three week vacation" was an accurate summary of the situation?

I call bovine feces.



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Originally Posted by MunkiLord View Post
I want Miller Lite and Tequila.

You may have to settle for the tears of whoever discovered this, failed to report it, and spread the mission around so others could exploit it. I doubt if folks running the mission have much to worry about; lost levels at the worst. But whoever actually built these arcs should probably be worried, because this would absolutely get you a 30 or 90 day lockout from many other games. Time will tell if City of Heroes is one of them. And I hope their AE slots make their Saving Throw versus Death Ray.


 

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There is a small part of me, though, Munki, that remembers how tough it was when I first joined. How much I praised the first level 50 team in PI to let me come with them (at the time I was a level 18 rad/rad). It yanks on the heart strings; then I see they don't have a single vet badge and are level 40+. It's almost impossible; it took me about 10 months to get my first 50 because I coincidentally did every level-appropriate TF, respec, Trial.

The thing missing from these AE babies isn't experience and know-how... it's love of the game.
Agreed...to a certain point. I'll play with anyone who isn't obviously an idiot.
After a few mishes, I'll know whether they are or not. And a simple death-fest isn't enough to classify one as an idiot.

I teamed this morning with a pair of newbs who were running +2 and getting Vahz missions *SHUDDER*. Lots of deaths, zombie puke everyplace, ambushes, resurrected zombies, but sub-10 no consequences, and it was a learning experience for them.



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Because it was the right word to add.

My name is Rad, and I approve this message.


 

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Agreed...to a certain point. I'll play with anyone who isn't obviously an idiot.
After a few mishes, I'll know whether they are or not. And a simple death-fest isn't enough to classify one as an idiot.

I teamed this morning with a pair of newbs who were running +2 and getting Vahz missions *SHUDDER*. Lots of deaths, zombie puke everyplace, ambushes, resurrected zombies, but sub-10 no consequences, and it was a learning experience for them.

I remember not knowing Vahz were tough until I got to Freaks. Then I was all: "Lulz, that's it?"


 

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So claiming that the devs have been on "a three week vacation" was an accurate summary of the situation?
Yeah, as I explained way back when, that was sarcasm directed at someone saying that this was a holiday weekend so expecting a fix within the past 3+ weeks was unreasonable.

But then I wouldn't expect a slavish, dev-adoring defend-Paragon-Studios-to-the-last fanboi to understand something like that

We're still doing that, right? Just using name calling and emotional buzzwords in lieu of actual posts?


 

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We're still doing that, right? Just using name calling and emotional buzzwords in lieu of actual posts?


Like there is any other way to do it.


 

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Nobody that does this is stealing from you.

Again I agree it needs to be fixed, and it will be soon I'm sure. I just don't understand the outrage.
I understad the outrage... it comes from people who rage at anyone who enjoys things they dont... They love grinding to 50 over and over and over and over... They cant stand the thought of anything but what they want... They complain about the spam.. the spam in AP... well get out of AP and go play the content.. that youve already played... over and over... if its AE you want to play... ie story arcs .... do to another zone.. its that simple, the devs will fix this... it should be fixed.... but christ some of you are down right scary in your rage...

and like some have said... its only the loud mouthed, self-important, forum mongers that are raging.... they want this game to consist of all 20 of them... to save the game... good luck with a game population of 20...


No one goes there anymore, it's too crowded...
"The potato goes in the FRONT."

 

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I understad the outrage... it comes from people who rage at anyone who enjoys things they dont... They love grinding to 50 over and over and over and over... They cant stand the thought of anything but what they want... They complain about the spam.. the spam in AP... well get out of AP and go play the content.. that youve already played... over and over... if its AE you want to play... ie story arcs .... do to another zone.. its that simple, the devs will fix this... it should be fixed.... but christ some of you are down right scary in your rage...

and like some have said... its only the loud mouthed, self-important, forum mongers that are raging.... they want this game to consist of all 20 of them... to save the game... good luck with a game population of 20...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9SgDoypXcI

Big deep breathes, everyone.


 

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This thread is like that movie where the flawed hero accidentally becomes a sports coach and leads a pack lovable losers to victory at the championships.


 

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This thread is like that movie where the flawed hero accidentally becomes a sports coach and leads a pack lovable losers to victory at the championships.
I think its more like the South American football team who's plane crashes in the Andes. They are completely cut-off from the outside world and resort to eating each other.


 

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Yes, that was a banjo I just heard, twanging away on the front porch. I do believe it is time to run like hell.


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Saturday January 29th, 2005 (12:37 PM) ~ Monday August 9th, 2010
Those Who Lived It Will Remember Long after your Ban Hammer Crumbles and the servers flicker dead.
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Who cares.

It doesn't affect my gaming.

The devs will fix it.

Oh look there are ppl in AE.

AE babies are funny.

It will continue to happen if not in AE then somewhere else.

I like to worry about what I'm doing not sticking my nose in other peoples business,especially since I don't pay their sub fees.

Too many pushy people running around wanting to control/whine about what other gamers are doing.

Just think of all the ban hammered threads from ae babies asking wtf happened? Oh gonna be so good to read some of that.


 

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Who cares.

It doesn't affect my gaming.

If you use the market, technically it does affect you.
However, it doesn't really affect your ability to play the game.

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The devs will fix it.
Agreed.


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It will continue to happen if not in AE then somewhere else.
Agreed.



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