Overanalying Comics (Survivng what would kill normal people)

v.v This is what I said earlier. They aren't dodging the lazer, they don't need to. That's the whole point. of what I said.

You're saying you can touch anywhere on your body in the same amount of time these world-class quick draw shooters can move their hands about three inches. Quick draw holsters do not require two different motions to draw the pistol out of, and then aimed towards, the target. They are open in the front and the gun can basically be pivoted forward and drawn in one continuous motion.

For reference, you're saying you can reach any part of your body in the same amount of time that this guy quick draws. The numbers being called out by the announcer are, I believe, the firing times in hundredths of a second (usually he doesn't say the decimal point). So they are firing on timescales of about 260 milliseconds, or a quarter of a second. That includes the reaction time to see the starting light and begin to draw. The actual draw is taking about a tenth to a sixteenth of a second.

And just to head off a potential objection, they aren't actually precision firing at those balloons. They are basically firing blanks and the hot black powder from the cartridge breaks the balloon as long as the pistol is pointed in approximately the right direction. So there is zero time being spent actually "aiming" - the balloon will break as long as the gun is fully drawn at the moment it is fired.

To be able to touch any specific point on your body in the same amount of time requires moving several times the distance in a similar or less time. Assuming infinite reaction speed, you'd have to be physically many times faster than these guys. Factoring in reaction speed, you'd need to be a cyborg.

Just for giggles, add in the multitasking to accurately measure yourself while doing all of this.

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Softcapping an Invuln is fantastic. Softcapping a Willpower is amazing. Softcapping SR is kissing your sister.

I is a cyborg ^.^

Anyways, the point was more or less to establish an outer limit for what Batman can do roughly for how long Batman has to respond to recognizing that Superman has gone rogue and where there is a point where victory for one or the other is absolute.

My point is more so that if more than x fractions of a second pass before Superman can stop him, Batman wins 100%.

Anyways, since you're better with the maths and all like that How far does Superman have to be for Batman to have adequate time to trigger a Superman Stop-gap if Superman's full speed is light speed and he is going full throttle.

For, even rough estimates, I would say that any time Superman is out of the country or half way across the country (considering the Earth in the DCU is like 4x as big) from Metropolis Batman has more than enough time to stop Superman.

Ignoring the fact that Superman moving at or near the speed of light anywhere near the ground would kill everyone anywhere near his flight path, and kill Batman whether he had a way to kill Superman or not, Superman could reach any point on the Earth from any other point in less than seven hundredths of a second. Assuming Batman could react and actually do something meaningful in about a quarter of a second, Superman would need to be about seventy five thousand kilometers away. Significantly farther away than geosynchronous orbit, and about a quarter of the way to the moon.

Since when is the Earth in the DCU four times larger than Earth?

There's no way Batman would make a Superman fail safe that was contingent on him being able to out-react or outfight Superman. I'm sure he'd give it a shot, but the real failsafe would be something that would be triggered upon some sequence of events, something which would work even if Superman killed or incapacitated Batman. However, it would also need to correctly sit idle if Batman were killed or defeated by someone other than Superman. What that could possibly be, or have been as the case may be, I don't have a guess.

batman redshifts the sun, and vaccinates the population with, you guessed it, kyptonite.

it all began with batman being defeated and sending you, er batman, a letter in the past....

Well for what it's worth, DC Earth is larger than Marvel Earth.

If it is, it is, although a reference for that fact would be helpful. Either way, I don't think its credible that the DCU earth could be four times larger than the real Earth in either radius or surface area (implying double the radius). That large of a discrepancy would create a cascade of blatant differences that I don't think could be marginalized.

yeah I know... also with Mars... it is likely bigger as well because it seems to be able to hold an atmosphere considering the recent plant life springing up on it.

If someone put an atmosphere there relatively recently through some kind of terraforming, Mars would still take tens of millions or hundreds of millions of years to lose it to atmospheric escape at its current size.

the size of the DCU Earth vs. Marvel earth was brought up in the JLA/Avengers crossover, which to a extent, is considered partially canon for the DCU since it's been referenced in a couple of mainstream books over the years. i dont know if it's 4x larger, but it is bigger.

There's also the small matter of a lack of Van Allen belts preventing the solar wind from stripping the Martian atmosphere away.

The Earth's spinning magnetic core is useful for more than figuring direction.



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This indeed where the DC Earth vs. Marvel Earth size difference is officially stated. As I recall though, the DC earth has a slightly larger diameter - which gives it the extra surface needed to hold all of those fictional nations and cities. Nothing even remotely suggested it was 4x as large as Marvel Earth.

The number of cities compacted into similar area suggests it.

Star & Central City are in the same area as their City of origin (i dunno what it is). Metropolis, Gotham, Bludhaven, and New York are all in the same area...

This suggests that the world has to be quite a bit bigger for those cities to all be in the same area as the original city.

Not really. A small increase in diameter (say 5%) would add a lot of surface area. There's no need for DC Earth to 4x as large.

What' the criteria for "4x as large"? 4x the diameter? 4x the surface area? 4x the landmass?

Not to totally thread jack, but dodging lasers isn't that hard. In fact I've done it hundreds of times.

Ever played laser tag? You probably dodged some too.

Lasers travel at the speed of light, true, they are "light" after all.

However the person firing the laser, still has to wield the gun accurately and fire it quickly.

If you can move fast enough to throw off their accuracy or avoid their aim, you can dodge lasers.

Batman is fast enough and agile enough that he would have no trouble dodging things being shot at him since he is usually much faster than the people shooting at him.

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this is why flechettes should be in every capable villains' arsenal.