"Are you a god?"
Are you (or your character) a god? And if so, what god are you?
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Ultimately I'm not just going to assume all my level 50s have simply become "gods" in Ghostbuster Gozer sense.
Each of them will react and adapt to it in different ways depending on what works for their concepts.
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I'm thinking my Fire/Fire Scrapper might be an incarnate of OMGWTFBBQ.
Maybe.
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I'm thinking my warshade might be ... well, not an incarnate ... but he'd bind bits and pieces of the plane of chaos to his being. That would sure fit.
Otherwise, no. Sands will be himself, ever strengthening the power of his soulfire.
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That's an interesting question! Is someone who is very powerful a god? Is someone who has many worshippers a god? Is immortality a requirement? Is it necessary to represent something?
I'd say a good working definition is "anyone who can ignore the laws of nature at will". Now, I know what you're going to say - "Gale, you awesomely cool person, you're an Archmage, you break the laws of physics on a regular basis, wouldn't that make you a goddess?" - and the answer is no. Magic is as much a force of nature as gravity or, I dunno, the strong and weak nuclear forces. It has its own rules and limitations, all of which I'm subject to.
Going over the other stuff: immortality in itself is not necessary, but someone who's immortal and unchanging does break entropy, which even magic is subject to. You can prolong your life more or less indefinitely, but you have to be doing things - often unpleasant things - for it to work. So, working upkeep-free immortality, definitely a tip-off, but probably not sufficient. I did say "ignore laws of nature *at will*", which means you have to be able to do impossible things, not just break laws by existing.
Followers. Gods will often inspire followers because of the natural human tendency to follow powerful leaders. But definitely not a requirement, and given how easy it is to do impressive things by harnessing the collective magic abilities of a group... having lots of followers makes it less likely that the person is actually breaking laws and not just working with very high levels of magic.
Representing something, well, again with the collective magic. Working with a symbol that many people strongly associate with something else, that's pretty much how all elemental mages operate. And a lot of heroes will declare to be standing for something just as a reflection of their philosophy. Just having a symbol doesn't make you a god. So there you go.
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Umm.... I have the body of a God !.
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Ok, so the God is Buddha but I digress.
Technically yes, given my supergroup's name (Gods of the Golden Age). :P
But there are a lot of ways you can go about claiming the power ICly, assuming you even acknowledge it. Besides going "I'm semi-divine!" you could be something closer to an Avatar or Godwalker like in the Unknown Armies tabletop setting, where you're more drawing power from a classic idea or archetype. Like the Masterless Man, who is the classic Man with No Name and draws power from how much that idea is rooted into the collective human psyche. As you gain power, you literally become that idea made flesh. Or perhaps it's the other way around, as you come closer to embodying the idea, you gain it's power until you become the embodiment of that idea. Robin Hood was the embodiment of The Rebel until he was unseated by Che Guevara in that setting.
My scrapper, Crow Call, could be considered to be channeling the archetype of The Adventurer. She's very much an Indiana Jones style two-fisted archaeologist-adventurer who secretly curses the lack of zeppelins to fight on. Just also able to lift almost a ton, run sixty miles an hour, and generally be a notch or two above the human maximum. The low level superstrength is there in part to explain why she's able to cut through heavy armor plate with just a pair of knives.
But honestly, probably won't be going "I'm a demigod!" with my toons. For one, not entirely sure how the Incarnate stuff works yet. We'll have to see what powers and stuff comes with it. Also, just doesn't fit the concept or style for most. I like my scrappy badass adventurers and stuff. That, and in RP everyone going "I'm the Spirit of Boojie, Vorlon Bucket God!" or whatever... that'd bug me.
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Never having liked the Well of Furies backstory for Statesman and Recluse, I'm very much hoping that the Incarnates system will be flexible enough to allow for a variety of interpretations. In the case of one batch of chars, I have in mind something along the lines of a classical archetype system (something along Campbellian lines, doncher know), so we'll see if that can work out once the majority of them hit level 50.
Well, the devs did say the Well of the Furies is only one way to become an Incarnate and the players will have other ways to achieve that status. If I recall correctly, they also said Praetorian Hamidon had its own unique way of becoming an Incarnate.
Few of my characters are supernaturally-based, so I'm probably not going to have any characters that are 'gods'. The characters I have that are supernatural are more along the lines of "interesting guy who keeps getting reincarnated" and "personified aspect of nature". Even most of my characters with Dark powers try to explain it as something more sci-fi such as dark matter, or even simply smoke.
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"How do you know you are on the side of good?" a Paragon citizen asked him. "How can we even know what is 'good'?"
"The Most High has spoken, even with His own blood," Melancton replied. "Surely we know."
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In the beginning order was created from chaos. The rolling nothingness of the Void was stilled and then shaped, imbued with color and light. Life began to flourish at the touch of the All-Mighty and soon expanded, filling the small places of Creation.
And when these things were done, the Father-of-All returned to his throne in the heavens, weary from his efforts. Turning he surveyed once more that which he had wrought, well satisfied. Then, he lowered himself to his throne that he may rest.
Puhfffffffffrrrrrrrrrbbbbbbttt.
Craning his neck around the Eternal One lifted one blessed cheek to see a small rubber diaphram now flattened and bereft of air upon his throne of glory.
"STEEEEEELCLAAAAAAAAWWWW!!!!"
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My Earth/Storm controller, Pachamama is named after the Inca "earth mother" goddess (fertility, planting, that sort of thing) and her bio is that she was an Inca priestess but I don't play her as an actual deity.
Actual deities don't get faceplanted by Hellions at level six and try to scrape up enough influence to buy endurance enhancing trinkets.
I really don't care for the cosmic-powers level of storytelling that "Incarnates" or "gods" imply. I'll probably play through the content- well, the non-task-force stuff- for the heck of it, but its safe to say none of it will apply to my characters' stories. Ever.
They'll never be at an "end of the universe" event. They'll never be the sole person capable of saving (or destroying) the world or even hold the fate of a city in their hands (maybe a city block... maybe.). None of my villains have ever been on Project Destiny's radar. None ever will. Barring a few exceptions, I'll be hard pressed to find reason to ever say they've traveled time, dimension hopped, accessed the underworld, or heck, even teleported to the hospital. There are plenty of other heroes whose players LIKE those kinds of stories. That's fine- their heroes can have them.
In the beginning order was created from chaos. The rolling nothingness of the Void was stilled and then shaped, imbued with color and light. Life began to flourish at the touch of the All-Mighty and soon expanded, filling the small places of Creation.
And when these things were done, the Father-of-All returned to his throne in the heavens, weary from his efforts. Turning he surveyed once more that which he had wrought, well satisfied. Then, he lowered himself to his throne that he may rest. Puhfffffffffrrrrrrrrrbbbbbbttt. Craning his neck around the Eternal One lifted one blessed cheek to see a small rubber diaphram now flattened and bereft of air upon his throne of glory. "STEEEEEELCLAAAAAAAAWWWW!!!!" |
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Adeon's core power has always been that he is very, very good are reverse engineering, repairing or otherwise modifying devices built by other people and then incorporating them into his own gear. His actual origin is obviously Tech but I've never really decided if his ability is Natural or actually represents a minor Mutation (mostly because it doesn't really matter).
In that sense I could see him becoming an incarnate of a god along the lines of Vulcan/Hephaestus just in a slightly roundabout way. His current abilities do have practical limits in that the more advanced a piece of technology is compared to his own understanding of physics the harder it is for him to decipher it. An incarnate ability that either expanded his knowledge of physics (probably subconsciously) or simply allowed him to mystically understand how a particular piece of technology worked without knowing why it worked would obviously allow him to increase his skills by incorporating even more advanced technology into his suit. After all, magic is just a way of saying we don't understand the physics behind it...
My characters are *not* avatars or incarnations of gods or primal forces.
Gods and primal forces are distillations of *me*.
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My Earth/Storm controller, Pachamama is named after the Inca "earth mother" goddess (fertility, planting, that sort of thing) and her bio is that she was an Inca priestess but I don't play her as an actual deity.
Actual deities don't get faceplanted by Hellions at level six and try to scrape up enough influence to buy endurance enhancing trinkets. |
My dark tank Shadowguardinal came from another game where she was an actual Guardinal (celestial angel-like being), but in this game she's just a human. I don't expect that to change.
Those are the only two I have that come even close aside from a couple carrying around magical artifacts said to hail from the gods (but who really knows?).
I imagine I'll treat the incarnate system as a way to grow more in power without any supernatural explanations - like everything else in the level-up process. But we'll see when it comes out.
Nah... None of my crew would have any aspirations to godhood. The lion's share of them are all members of the same (completely, utterly non-canon) species of Shard natives. They're essentially Rularuu when you get right down to it; Faathim's creatures, forced out of their home territiory by outside invaiders and the other Rularuu after their creator found himself trapped in his own Chantry.
Trying to channel the power of some other divinity through one of the Elysion would probably be a little... problematic. As kind and polite a being as he may be otherwise, I don't think Faathim would appreciate that at all.
Instead, I think I'm just going to stick with the idea that they're just getting more used to the conditions on Primal Earth. Becoming more comfortable with the higher gravity and the lack of the background energies they used to draw from "back home"... Generally just adapting more completely to their current circumstances, in other words.
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Interesting thread.
I have a Blaster who's already an incarnation of Loki - so he'd certainly qualify
from an Incarnate's perspective.
Not sure (RP-wise) how any of my other toons would though...
On the other hand, a certain morality mission informs me that my Brute
becomes the last living god so, perhaps the Incarnate system is simply
the means by which he begins to achieve it.
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PS> For Kheldians, one might presume that the other planets & species
they have encountered also worshipped gods (as humans do), so I'd think
it viable to "invent" one from those cultures (since we don't have any real
info to select from) if you wanted to go that route. <shrug>
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Also, I have characters that may unlock the slot for the sake of content, but regardless of how far they progress I will never think of them as Incarnates.
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