If you could make a new zone, what would it be?
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Posted on: 2010-10-11 05:16 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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pvpers dont care that much about that
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Originally Posted by warden_de_dios
If these means I can rez at the hospital with full health and endurance then yes.
I thought PVP was fun and casual until it was decided there needed to be some sort of penalty for death. |
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True, but I don't think this old engine could handle something like an underwater zone. One of our competitors has it and it can't do it right even with a more advanced engine. the other competitor that came out on 1/11/11 pretty much doesn't have such a zone.|
Originally Posted by Golden Girl
Just because a "competitior" does something, that doesn't mean it's off-limits to CoH - the devs here seem to have a "do it, but do it better" view when it comes to rescuing diamonds from dunghills.
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So I think SOME things could be done better here. Not all.
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Yeah and you CAN already rez as the hosp with full health and end now. That's been fixed for a while now.
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Originally Posted by lll Phoenix lll
pvpers dont care that much about that
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Again, there's underwater, and then there's underwater |
Originally Posted by Aura_Familia
True, but I don't think this old engine could handle something like an underwater zone. One of our competitors has it and it can't do it right even with a more advanced engine. the other competitor that came out on 1/11/11 pretty much doesn't have such a zone.
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It's raining; GG is arguing this means we are now in an underwater zone.
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
Again, there's underwater, and then there's underwater
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they cared enough about it to grip and complain and get that stupid rez with a sliver of health rule added to the zones.|
Originally Posted by lll Phoenix lll
pvpers dont care that much about that
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lolpvp.. sorry I showed any support for your request.
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Agreed, besides... look at the horizon in the picture, no Castle in the background!.|
Originally Posted by Eiko-chan
But if we don't beat the dead horse, how do we know it's still deaD?!
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*badoomtish*
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Because you wouldn't want to ape the competition?|
Originally Posted by Golden Girl
How can you have all that without adding a giant gorilla GM?
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Hey, considering her arguement might give us a bioshock Rapture-esque zone, this is one moment where I'll accept golden girl logic.|
Originally Posted by Eiko-chan
It's raining; GG is arguing this means we are now in an underwater zone.
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I mean, wouldn't you just LOVE to rescue (or harvest) little sisters, get a buttload of new temp powers (plasmid pickups and gene tonics), or even make a big daddy/sister EAT and have touching moments like this:
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
City of Heroes is a game about freedom of expression and variety of experiences far more so than it is about representing any one theme, topic or genre.
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see, i wouldnt, at all, a number of players just dont play tfs, i felt restricting cyclopses(ok no idea how to pluralize that) and minotaurs was a bad idea, and this would also be an unfortunate misallocation of art assets to cordon soemthign that qoudl require a whole new skeleton off in a small segment of the content, so i have to respectfully disagree with that part of your suggestion.|
Originally Posted by Jophiel
My concept of a "lost world" would be a jungle island with vine covered ruins populated by 5th Column or some other similar group. Exploring the ruins would reveal tunnels leading to a modern complex underneath with your usual mission doors, etc.
Too keep it from being too much like a fantasy MMORPG, I'd restrict the dinosaur aspect to a zone GM that "threatens" the small hero base (aid station, vendor, difficulty changer NPC, etc) and a few dinosaurs in the task force much like the minotaur/cyclops mobs in Cimerora. Most zone mobs would be 5th Col. types or native villager types (think like the D. Pantheon shamans). Also, like Cimerora, I'd save truely entering the heart of the ruins for the task force and mission arc climaxes. The mission arc focuses around freeing the natives' leader/princess/something so they're not forced to help the 5th Col. I'd give the task force a pulpy "Indiana Jones" or "The Phantom" feel with the 5th Column trying to excavate a lost artifact of great power. The task force climaxes with the 5th column animating a massive Tyrannosaur skeleton and the heroes battling it. Good times. |
honestly, mmos rip each other off so often, who cares? there have been prehistoric lost world style comics since at least i was a kid reading them in the very early 80s the theme is quite appropriate for the comics genre.
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I wasn't aware that the branding of livestock was considered 'abuse' now. Just because your horse is a pet GG doesn't mean that there aren't business owners who need to mark their property as such |
Originally Posted by Golden Girl
Horse abuse isn't really that funny - just like any other animal abuse.
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There is no such thing as an "innocent bystander"
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Fair enough. I'm just balancing the idea of "monsters" against worries I've heard expressed that the introduction of such things would turn CoH into another swords & spells fantasy MMORPG.|
Originally Posted by rian_frostdrake
so i have to respectfully disagree with that part of your suggestion.
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Then again, it's not as though the devs are going to read my post and jump right on it anyway
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Really, I thought it was very well done.|
Originally Posted by Aura_Familia
True, but I don't think this old engine could handle something like an underwater zone. One of our competitors has it and it can't do it right even with a more advanced engine. the other competitor that came out on 1/11/11 pretty much doesn't have such a zone.
So I think SOME things could be done better here. Not all. |
Depth of field-check, a nice sense of depth re: different stages and sinking down fathoms deep-check, a wibbly-wobbly™ distortion effect that is noticable but not restrictive re:combat - check. A swimming animation and bubbles streaming from your breathing.
I'm interested to hear what you feel isn't achieved convincingly enough for your tastes Aura.
What I felt was a missed opportunity for CoH was not to implement an underwater zone first. I'm sure a convincing one could now be achieved anyway what with Ultra-mode, and the Coralax have been in-game since Halloween 2005, you'd of thought an underwater kingdom of the Coralax could of been attempted in the last five years.
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understood, those who think such things tend to be malcontents looking for something to complain about, rather than people who enjoy the game in the first place. examples of dinosaurs interacting with superheros exist in just about every major franchise, so really i give no credence to those who trump up that nonsense. no matter what you add, someone will have their ivory colored finery tainted by it, you have that with asian elements, you have that with monster or ultratech parts, sometimes you just have to go forward and trust the majority of your fans to be bigger people than those of small minds.
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Originally Posted by Jophiel
Fair enough. I'm just balancing the idea of "monsters" against worries I've heard expressed that the introduction of such things would turn CoH into another swords & spells fantasy MMORPG.
Then again, it's not as though the devs are going to read my post and jump right on it anyway |
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Thats interesting, (and being an Atlantis mythology enthusiast I'm intrigued) but I think if underwater is attempted the Kingdom of the Coralax would be a perfect fit for existing lore rather than trying to shoehorn in something to CoH that is foreign.|
Originally Posted by Golden Girl
Sexy Jay has recently mentioned Atlantis again
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Besides, In the thirty years of PnP lore in the other game, Atlantis has already been a zone for decades. As the other studio's enviromental artists search through the PnP books for zonal inspiration, in-time it too will be attempted online to sit alongside the other underwater zone.
I like the calls for a Norse-inspired Asgardian type of zone, as i do the calls for space and extra-planetary zones.
Ancient Egypt also has merit I feel should pre-history be attempted.
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Please no more zones! Make original mission maps/areas in TFs and SFs. We have too many zones.|
Originally Posted by Mothers_Love
Thats interesting, (and being an Atlantis mythology enthusiast I'm intrigued) but I think if underwater is attempted the Kingdom of the Coralax would be a perfect fit for existing lore rather than trying to shoehorn in something to CoH that is foreign.
Besides, In the thirty years of PnP lore in the other game, Atlantis has already been a zone for decades. As the other studio's enviromental artists search through the PnP books for zonal inspiration, in-time it too will be attempted online to sit alongside the other underwater zone. I like the calls for a Norse-inspired Asgardian type of zone, as i do the calls for space and extra-planetary zones. Ancient Egypt also has merit I feel should pre-history be attempted. |
I would also LOVE to have some 'one-shot' TFs which involve different enemies etc. that we do not have anywhere else in game. We seems to have the same old groups we have seen/heard about for years.
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Dude, we just got several new enemy groups and a number of new maps.
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Originally Posted by TheJazMan
Please no more zones! Make original mission maps/areas in TFs and SFs. We have too many zones.
I would also LOVE to have some 'one-shot' TFs which involve different enemies etc. that we do not have anywhere else in game. We seems to have the same old groups we have seen/heard about for years. |
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
City of Heroes is a game about freedom of expression and variety of experiences far more so than it is about representing any one theme, topic or genre.
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Prepare to be disappointed |
Originally Posted by TheJazMan
Please no more zones!
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I think we don't have enough zones that are used to their fullest extent, thats the problem.|
Originally Posted by TheJazMan
Please no more zones! Make original mission maps/areas in TFs and SFs. We have too many zones.
I would also LOVE to have some 'one-shot' TFs which involve different enemies etc. that we do not have anywhere else in game. We seems to have the same old groups we have seen/heard about for years. |
We have Boomtown, Perez, Creys, Shadowshard, Dark Astoria (and you could argue a couple more) that have not been touched in years and are ghost-towns on most nights (most populated EU-server: Union).
One could argue a possible cull, and / or reinvestment and reinvigoration of the content in those zones. The day we stop pushing for exciting enviroments being used to their fullest extent is the start of the apathetic slippery slope imho.
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this is my usual pick-up line.
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
Prepare to be disappointed
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strangely enough, it would be some sort of airport zone. The idea here in addition to whatever missions specific to that zone, you would be able to go on mission where your sent all over the world, with specific tile-sets, and get a better glimps of the CoX world beyond the RI and PC. For example you may be sent to CoX Tokyo with the tilesets reflecting that.
Revamping the old hazard zones would also be good, as sort of incursion zones( and not PvP zones), you would have different factions with different story arcs with competing goals
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the ones who care are just some players think to be pvpers. and its funnier the way it is now because you get to prove you are better than the other killing him twice while you have low hp. Anyway the way it is now , it was at the start of pvp but lets not stay at this. If a person thinks that we should go pre-issue13 pvp zones just to have low hp when we die in the hospital must be completely blind and doesnt know anything about pvp |
Originally Posted by warden_de_dios
they cared enough about it to grip and complain and get that stupid rez with a sliver of health rule added to the zones.
lolpvp.. sorry I showed any support for your request. |
Horse abuse isn't really that funny - just like any other animal abuse.
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