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Do you have some personal problem with David Nakayama? You seem ridiculously hostile.
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Originally Posted by Perfidus
I guess as far as off beat community interaction goes, we still have Castle and the shill Noble Savage. Which isn't saying Babs being fired made it that way, he went silent months ago so I can't blame it on that. I can however blame it on marketing, and lament the old days of dev/player interactions on the forums. I guess the dev events in game will have to do for that, from here on out!
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@Golden Girl
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Bless you, Ocho. I feel better already!
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Originally Posted by theOcho
/em hugs
Paragon Studios is still profoundly committed to City of Heroes and is proud of both the game we have created and the community who plays it. We're here for the long run, no need to be scurred. |
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But, then he wouldn't have been let go.|
Originally Posted by Caligdoiel
CoH2
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*targets BAB*
;salute
I remember when he appeared. Good egg.
...won't ask about the teabag. Still funny how you pulled that gag off.
Explorer: 93%. Achiever: 40%. Socializer: 40%. Killer 33%.
Current Heroes and Villains (altitis holding at 50 currents)
To all the devs, past, present, (and may there be) future: /salute
To NCSoft: Understand that you reap what you plant, and you cannot gain what you throw away.
I had originally posted this in another thread as a joke.
Considering this current news I re-link it here as a memorial.
Wherever you go Chris... You will ALWAYS be BABs to us... may you always kick the Devil's a**...
Back Alley Brawler's Last Stand: http://www.singsnap.com/snap/r/ad8309b4e
My mind wanders so often you've probably seen its picture on milk cartons. - Me... the first person version of the third person Steelclaw
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We have no idea if this wasn't a joint decision. In fact we have no details about what exactly went down. For all we know BaBs selected to leave and or is being moved to something else. They could have decided months ago that his job would be removed after Going Rogue launched. |
Originally Posted by ArwenDarkblade
This upsets me a great deal, as BaB was not only a valuable asset to the game, but he was friendly, accessible, and downright likable. He was always willing to listen to the players and took great care to explain things to us so we'd understand. He addressed my own concerns with weapon scaling and customization, and made it a point at the first HeroCon to pull me aside and explain his position to me in detail. That meant a lot to me.
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So I wouldn't jump to conclusions that something horrible or evil happened.
I think its more shame on whoever did the tip off. They're stirring up the pot nothing more. BaBs did cut off his community contact on his own awhile ago.
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No, absolutely not. I like his efforts to interact with the community and he's a friendly, likable guy. He's also a shill and a ham, and if you feel its ridiculously hostile for me to point that out, or to interpret his comment earlier as brushing Babs under the rug a bit, then that's fine.
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
Do you have some personal problem with David Nakayama? You seem ridiculously hostile.
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"I do what I want." -- Raine Heartfall
Hellgirl. Fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance.
@Perfy
Virtue
It is too bad that they did not release a statement to inform the player base...I know it is not our business but lay offs are never seen as a good thing and if they presented it to us it would not feel like they were trying to allow it to slip by us and hoping we wouldn't notice...
History has shown that the team was re-aligned after City Of Villains so this does not fill me with fear that the game is in dire circumstances...the photo that was presented in one of the two threads about this topic shows quite a large team and once Going Rogue was released and stable...they may not need a team of that size to sustain the game going forward...
I do agree that we will highly miss BaBs...he was one of the more vocal members of the Dev team to interact with us on the forums...and not just about game discussion...if he saw a thread that caught his eye ...he would post ...it made him feel like he was one of us...that it wasn't "us" vs "them"...Chris did a great job of bridging the gap...
There are other things that would alarm me more about the health of the game and Paragon studios...if we saw server mergers...issues being more infrequent and with less content...the game not being offered at retail locations going forward...these all would make me think "DOOM!"...
Good luck BaBs...you will be missed buddy!
"A great love is alot like a good memory. When it's there and you know it's there,but it's just out of your reach. It can be all that you think about. You can focus on it and try to force it but the more you do, the more you seem to push it away. But if you're patient and hold still...maybe...just maybe...it will come to you. I just need to be somewhere she can find me" - Church from Red vs Blue
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Were you there when the decision was made?|
Originally Posted by ArwenDarkblade
I'm incredibly disappointed by the actions of Paragon Studios today.
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Sorry to pick your post for this, but it serves no purpose to lay blame if you don't know the background and proceedings of how this came about in regards to those involved.
I don't know them. They do. And they have no obligation to tell us.
I've worked on numerous projects. They always end with people leaving, either hired or company, people are leaving. Heck, I even worked to get myself out of my job in one project once..
Projects end. That's the nature of them. If they don't, you did it wrong...
[CENTER][B]Radix malorum est cupiditas[/B][/CENTER]
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Thanks for the re-assurance Ocho...I honestly and sincerely mean that...I think we were all just caught a little off guard with it being broken by an outside source...
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Originally Posted by theOcho
/em hugs
Paragon Studios is still profoundly committed to City of Heroes and is proud of both the game we have created and the community who plays it. We're here for the long run, no need to be scurred. |
"A great love is alot like a good memory. When it's there and you know it's there,but it's just out of your reach. It can be all that you think about. You can focus on it and try to force it but the more you do, the more you seem to push it away. But if you're patient and hold still...maybe...just maybe...it will come to you. I just need to be somewhere she can find me" - Church from Red vs Blue
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I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who finds your comments about him bizarre and paranoid.
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Originally Posted by Perfidus
No, absolutely not. I like his efforts to interact with the community and he's a friendly, likable guy. He's also a shill and a ham, and if you feel its ridiculously hostile for me to point that out, or to interpret his comment earlier as brushing Babs under the rug a bit, then that's fine. I know you're the peppy cheerleader around here but I haven't really got anything I need to explain to you.
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@Golden Girl
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I'm pretty sure that's just mindless conjecture, since you're the only one saying anything about it.|
Originally Posted by Golden Girl
I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who finds your comments about him bizarre and paranoid.
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Edit: I stand corrected! But nonetheless stand by what I've said.
"I do what I want." -- Raine Heartfall
Hellgirl. Fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance.
@Perfy
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Nope, you're not.
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who finds your comments about him bizarre and paranoid.
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[CENTER][B]Radix malorum est cupiditas[/B][/CENTER]
Quick Question: Would anyone be up for meeting on a server tonight, going to Galaxy City, and hanging out as a way of paying homage to Back Alley Brawler?
The fun part is, it'd be Galaxy City. That's how you know that everyone there is there for the ceremony.
My recommended details:
Justice server, 7:15 PM (Pacific Time)
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Well, it's quite posisbel that after over half a decade of workign no the game he simply wanted a change and a new challenge - or could even be a financial reason - someone with his talent would be valuable to any other dev team, so he could have gotten a very tempting offer.
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Originally Posted by ArwenDarkblade
This upsets me a great deal, as BaB was not only a valuable asset to the game, but he was friendly, accessible, and downright likable. He was always willing to listen to the players and took great care to explain things to us so we'd understand. He addressed my own concerns with weapon scaling and customization, and made it a point at the first HeroCon to pull me aside and explain his position to me in detail. That meant a lot to me.
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@Golden Girl
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I found them on the same level as Golden Girl, but I chose to stay out of it. Since you were taking my silence as complacency, however, I now correct you.
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Originally Posted by Perfidus
I'm pretty sure that's just mindless conjecture, since you're the only one saying anything about it.
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Actually, I'm not.
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Originally Posted by Perfidus
I'm pretty sure that's just mindless conjecture, since you're the only one saying anything about it.
Edit: I stand corrected! But nonetheless stand by what I've said. |
@Golden Girl
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What is the point to counter-rant in a thread that's mainly aimed at expressing regrets about someone leaving?|
Originally Posted by Perfidus
I'm pretty sure that's just mindless conjecture, since you're the only one saying anything about it.
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It serves no purpose whatsoever to go off on people that had no part in his leaving.
[CENTER][B]Radix malorum est cupiditas[/B][/CENTER]
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Well since a shill is someone who is paid to blow rainbows and sunshine up people's arses, I'm not quite sure what other meaning is trying to be conveyed here. Either Dave is sincerely a nice guy, or he's only being nice because he's being paid to do so. I agree it's an odd position to hold.
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who finds your comments about him bizarre and paranoid.
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This truly sucks. I had hoped Paragon was doing well enough with GR and booster sales to keep everyone and in fact to hire new people for future projects. Good luck BaBs. 
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Folks need to slow down a moment. IF BABs is indeed gone, a few things to keep in mind:
- Laid off is not the same thing as fired, not by a longshot.
- Laid off is not always a hostile parting, in fact sometimes it is quite amicable.
- Related, I have seen a few occasions where honorable employees who are ready to move on will essentially "jump on a the layoff grenade" for their fellow workers. Details I have witnessed included:
- Senior employees aware that either they go or three people from their department go to make budget lines doing so out of protest and a protective sense
- Employees with other opportunities and offers already waiting in the wings making things easier on their bosses. (For some bosses layoffs are the toughest part of their job. Period.)
- Accepting a nice severance for volunteering to retire early or take the layoff for the team, conveniently coming at a time when said employee is already ready for a change (either of career, employment status, or just three months off)
In other words, if he was laid off, there is a whole lot of none-of-our-business (good or bad) behind the situation. BABs has done some great work over the years during his tenure with CoX. And even if he wasn't laid off, think about it, 5 or so years is a Looooooong time to hold a position in as dynamic an industry as his.
In time, I'm sure we'll learn the truth of this rumor regarding his status. But for now folks, slow down a little on this one.
Upon reflection, I think... I hope he is heading to Carbine Studios. Some good eggs there, too, and I'd like to collect the devs I have an appreciation for in one spot.
Explorer: 93%. Achiever: 40%. Socializer: 40%. Killer 33%.
Current Heroes and Villains (altitis holding at 50 currents)
To all the devs, past, present, (and may there be) future: /salute
To NCSoft: Understand that you reap what you plant, and you cannot gain what you throw away.
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But like with all games, they don't need everyone who works on an expansion after the expansion is released.|
Originally Posted by Goblin_Queen
This truly sucks. I had hoped Paragon was doing well enough with GR and booster sales to keep everyone and in fact to hire new people for future projects. Good luck BaBs.
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As I mentioned earlier, GR neeed a lot of zone work, because it was giving us 4-6 new zones - but as we won't be getting 4-6 new zones in the upcoming Issues, the people who worked on the GR zones aren't all needed now - and the same with all the people who worked on Ultra Mode - now that it's done and added to the game, not all of them are needed anymore either.
The upcoming Issues are not GR-sized, so there's no need for a GR-sized team to work on them.
@Golden Girl
City of Heroes comics and artwork
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10:15 EST? Yeah, I could make a lowbie tribute character. But do we have confirmation yet of his departure? I think it would be fitting before organizing an in game "funeral." |
Originally Posted by Marcian Tobay
Quick Question: Would anyone be up for meeting on a server tonight, going to Galaxy City, and hanging out as a way of paying homage to Back Alley Brawler?
The fun part is, it'd be Galaxy City. That's how you know that everyone there is there for the ceremony. My recommended details: Justice server, 7:15 PM (Pacific Time) |
Plus think of all the eMalt Liquor that would be wasted if we prematurely pour it on Galaxy City concrete.
Sad Lemur. I'm pretty sure this is from the "Oil Slick? WTF!" night. If not, the night before.
Gonna miss you, talking to you was always insightful.
"Null is as much an argument "for removing the cottage rule" as the moon being round is for buying tennis shoes." -Memphis Bill
CoH2
Hello, my name is @Caligdoiel and I'm an altoholic.