Emperor Cole at the end of the Power Loyalist Arc...
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AnElfCalledMack,
Posted on: 2010-09-20 14:19 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
The Wardens and Responsible Loyalists are both equally evil and Good. Golden Cole cannot accept that because she perceives -herself- as a Warden, and cannot believe she is Evil.
During the beta thread on this topic she said that any Loyalist, no matter what they do or believe, is evil because they support the Government. That you cannot do any good because all the evil of the government stains every act you take.
But if that's true, then no Warden can ever do any good, because they are part of the resistance and the Crusaders. They are just as evil as their compatriots, and can never do any good because they are allied with evil.
She will continually refute that, holding up her Hypocrisy with winking smiley faces.
The truth is that Wardens and Responsible Loyalists both try to save people while trying to distance themselves of the atrocities the greater portion of their group performs. The Good Loyalists are outnumbered by Corrupt and Sadistic ones. The Good Resistance members are outnumbered by the Vindictive and Evil ones.
Does that mean neither side is Heroic? Yes. Does that mean neither side do any good or aspire to heroism? No, it does not.
But she'll never admit that. because the moment she realizes not every Loyalist is a stiff-armed Cole supporter her tiny brain will implode from the shock. And just before she dies of brain-splosion two brain cells that are currently next to each of her ears will meet in the middle of her skull and she'll realize that individuals in an opposing organization might be good and decent people.
-Rachel-
That would require her to have two brain cells, though...
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
I said he's the scum of the earth for what he did to his daughter - that doesn't mean he should be killed though.
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At least EG has the stones to say that everyone not on his side needs to burn.
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You stormtroopers just don't get it, do you? |
Originally Posted by Jetpack
/boggle
At least EG has the stones to say that everyone not on his side needs to burn. |
@Golden Girl
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Interrogator Kang accompanies the PC on the mission where they blatantly disobey the Emperor. |
Originally Posted by james_joyce
I'm talking about characters the player encounters while doing missions in Praetoria.
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Praetor White also voices statements that might be taken as rebellious after Cleopatra is killed.
Antimatter continuously complains about the idiots above him in the hierarchy.
Dr. Hertzfeld openly has you work against Neuron.
Tami Baker assists you in broadcasting the truth behind the Destroyers on state television.
Edit - ahh, this thread is now much shorter.
Much better.
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Well, she did earn that ban back in the day.
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Originally Posted by BBQ_Pork
There are clearly certain topics that we cannot have around without getting fully and completely thread-jacked and driven into a hole. This thread will get locked on Monday. Deleted if she says anything truly appalling. |
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It got shorter? Still seven pages long, to me... |
Originally Posted by Jetpack
Edit - ahh, this thread is now much shorter.
Much better. |
-Rachel-
Attention, duelists! Seven? I see 31 pages. You must have more posts-per-page than I do.
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7 and 31 can be the same number, citizen - just like 2 + 2 can be 5 and 3.
@Golden Girl
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...in AMERICA!
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Sorry, let me re-phrase.|
Originally Posted by Steampunkette
It got shorter? Still seven pages long, to me...
-Rachel- |
The posts of one poster got shorter for me. Although, admittedly, there wasn't much to go away.
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Whoa, 16 pages for me. i need to up my posts displayed per page.
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Originally Posted by Jetpack
Sorry, let me re-phrase.
The posts of one poster got shorter for me. Although, admittedly, there wasn't much to go away. |
Dr. Todt's theme.
i make stuff...
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Yes! Seven and Thirty One can be the same so long as one uses Fifty posts per page and another uses Ten. |
Originally Posted by Golden Girl
7 and 31 can be the same number, citizen - just like 2 + 2 can be 5 and 3.
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And 1 + 1 = 10 Golden Cole.
-Rachel-
2 + 2 = 5 for extremely large values of 2
2 + 2 = 3 for extremely small values of 2
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And based on the "Big Rip" theory 1 micrometer could equal 2 micrometers, given enough time for the space to reproduce...
-Rachel-
It's quite possible that you're both missing the point 
@Golden Girl
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There's no way to talk to Cole with the Resistance choice right?
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Unfortunately not - I wanted to discuss free will with him via my fists |
Originally Posted by Pedro Schwartz
There's no way to talk to Cole with the Resistance choice right?
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She wanted to see her ex.
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
Unfortunately not - I wanted to discuss free will with him via my fists
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In the Resistance Choice,there should be reason why you would not talk to Cole and explain you destroyed it to help him,especially if you're a Resistance Undercover with Provost!
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I think the only way a Resistance person would get to talk to him was if we'd been captured, and then we'd just get his traditional "so Statesman, how does it feel to be a prisoner" speech - and I don't think the game would ever put us in a position where we couldn't escape, which is what those glowing things that are holding Statesman would do.
Like even when we end up in a Council or Thorn cell, there are no guards, no one comes to talk to us, and we're not restrained in any way - it's only really there to add a bit of variation to the normal trip to the hospital when we're defeated.
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Is it really surprising that she'd do this with Kang? She's said alot of executions is immoral yet is siding with a group that tries to bomb hospitals and nuke cities.