Top 10 Most Useful Game Elements People Never Use
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Posted on: 2010-09-10 07:23 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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I am so tempted to link to a picture of one from the wiki. |
Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
To explain - I've been here for six years, maybe more, and to this day I HAVE NOT SEEN an empowerment station. Ever. I don't know what one even looks like.
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--Rad
/whereami:
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While true by and large, I feel the need to justify being occasionally dead with a full tray. Sometimes, not only does everything go sideways, it goes there in the space of a blink. Happened to me last night, the Brute went in, my Dominator self followed, and every enemy in the spawn decided I was by far the more dangerous target. In the red in one hit, dead 1/8th of a second later.|
Originally Posted by DumpleBerry
INSPIRATIONS
For the love of god, people--if you wipe, and are laying on the floor dead, and I can't trade you a wakie because you are DEAD with a FULL INVENTORY, I'M GOING TO LEAVE YOU THERE. It's even worse on level 50 characters. Really? You have 20 INSPIRATIONS that weren't useful in a fight you just lost? |
Naturally, assuming the above will happen, and therefore popping things pre-emptively, ensures nothing ever happens to you at all. Then the game picks that time to give you nothing for your trouble, so now you're out.
Maybe I'm behind on my sacrifices to RNG. Or it's sheep kind of god and I've been providing goats.
Another one for the list:
Macros and Binds - While I think a lot of forum users do make use of them, I am constantly asked how I am able to find NPCs or glowies so quickly (/macro Find, "Target_name computer" - edit name as necessary), or how I can type so fast in the middle of combat (/bind NUMPAD6 "Listen up $target, you are going down next")
50s: Inv/SS PB Emp/Dark Grav/FF DM/Regen TA/A Sonic/Elec MA/Regen Fire/Kin Sonic/Rad Ice/Kin Crab Fire/Cold NW Merc/Dark Emp/Sonic Rad/Psy Emp/Ice WP/DB FA/SM
Overlord of Dream Team and Nightmare Squad
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Just putting Fortitude on one can carry it a long way. My wisp tanks for my empath quite often when I'm running solo. I recall one rather drawn-out Malta fight in which a sapper spent the entire fight trying to drain the wisp.
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Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill
We've made it a point, at times, to buff the pets just to see if we can get them to make it through a mission. To the point where they're shielded and have as much HP as a player (sometimes more.)
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The Way of the Corruptor (Arc ID 49834): Hey villains! Do something for yourself for a change--like twisting the elements to your will. All that's standing in your way are a few secret societies...and Champions of the four elements.
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And sometimes I've died with a partially empty tray that is promptly filled from teammates' defeats. Pity how it never seems to be a wakie.
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Originally Posted by Primal
While true by and large, I feel the need to justify being occasionally dead with a full tray. Sometimes, not only does everything go sideways, it goes there in the space of a blink. Happened to me last night, the Brute went in, my Dominator self followed, and every enemy in the spawn decided I was by far the more dangerous target. In the red in one hit, dead 1/8th of a second later.
Naturally, assuming the above will happen, and therefore popping things pre-emptively, ensures nothing ever happens to you at all. Then the game picks that time to give you nothing for your trouble, so now you're out. Maybe I'm behind on my sacrifices to RNG. Or it's sheep kind of god and I've been providing goats. |
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So what about the people who are in an SG, with a base and both empowerment stations, and who are defeating high level foes at a rate that generates tons of common and uncommon salvage that sells for 1 inf on the market, and still never use the empowerment stations?|
Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
To quote Adam Savage: There's your problem! I have neither the desire nor indeed the ability to place all of my characters in a SG, and even if I did, I don't have the patience to design a SG base for every single one of them from scratch. If there were a place in the overworld I could do this, then sure, why not? But as long as it requires a base with a specific item in it... I can see why people never use it.
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Originally Posted by IanTheM1
And, to boot, Empowerment Stations contribute to your SG base tax, on top of the relative priceyness of the later models, requiring both a chunk of salvage to craft and a chunk of prestige to place.
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Originally Posted by Bionic_Flea
I'm surprised at how few people use the little empowering vet-pets. Considering the lengths people go through to squeeze out a few points of defense, here's a free way yo get 3% and an endurance boost on top of that!
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Eva Destruction AR/Fire/Munitions Blaster
Darkfire Avenger DM/SD/Body Scrapper
Arc ID#161629 Freaks, Geeks, and Men in Black
Arc ID#431270 Until the End of the World
I use Confuse on any character that it's possible to have use it. It's insanely good, my psy/mind blaster always is cloaked in a nice warm fuzzy ball of "lol hit him instead".
Number... whatever we're on, "TURN OFF SPRINT" at low levels, to save yourself those blues. You don't need sprint on. Not inside missions anyway, because remember, every enemy that leaves - with the few exceptions of "don't let them get away" - will come back right to you if you wait it out. It's no rush. Just... turn off the sprint.
I suppose that will become a moot point shortly with Fitness inherent, but who knows how it'll actually affect low-level characters?
Please read my FEAR/Portal/HalfLife Fan Fiction!
Repurposed
Most of my characters run all combat toggles for less than 1 end/sec and recover 3 to 4. I still toggle off sprint every fight. Pointless endurance drain is... pointless.
I am hearing impaired and I am definitely trying that target glowie macro the second I log in.
Weight training: Because you'll never hear someone lament "If only I were weaker, I could have saved them."
Oh, here's something that's incredibly useful that people never use:
MOUSE LOOK
I keep hearing complaints about how people's camera keeps getting stuck in ceilings or stuck into walls or or stuck in geometry (by "stuck," I mean forced against your back so it's just about first person) and when I suggest just moving the camera a bit to the side or a bit down, I find out they don't want to bother since they're using keyboard steer.
Furthermore, even today, I see plenty of people do the "slow turn." What I mean by this is a person will run up to a dead end, realise it, then slooowly turn around in place before running back. I know how slowly characters turn with Q and E, and I can spot it from a mile away. How do these people use Super Speed at all?
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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I. The Combat Stealth temp power gotten from doing one patrol mission in Siren's Call.
(Hyper stealth from Bloody Bay and the Phase one from Warburg)
II. Temp Pets... Loa Bone, Summoning Amulet, Shivans, Vial of Bees, Rikti Drone all red side and able to be refilled via Ouro(Shivans in Bloody Bay not Ouro)
III. Temp ranged powers for a tank/brute to pull
IV. Confuse / Mass Confuse on any Mo TF. The Horsemen are easy when they kill each other and most of their spawn.
V. 3 decent MM's on a team. Everyone one else can sit back and enjoy the ride.
VI. Eye of the Magus / Demonic Aura
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I use bees! I love bees! I threw bees at Ms Liberty just because she was annoying me with her Unstoppable, and I threw bees at the Rikti on the Mothership just because. I've thrown quite a few bees at Longbow Ballistas because I hate them. Note to self: Get bees before next CoP trial. Throw bees at the Aspect of Rularuu.|
Originally Posted by Blood_Beret
II. Temp Pets... Loa Bone, Summoning Amulet, Shivans, Vial of Bees, Rikti Drone all red side and able to be refilled via Ouro(Shivans in Bloody Bay not Ouro)
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| V. 3 decent MM's on a team. Everyone one else can sit back and enjoy the ride. |
3 decent Blasters on a team. Everyone else is life support.
3 decent Corruptors on a team. Everyone else just needs to gather stuff into our debuffs and AoEs or keep it there.
Or, you know, you can form a team of anything and crank the difficulty so that everyone else can actually contribute. Preferably without a bunch of stupid shovy pets getting in the way.
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Eva Destruction AR/Fire/Munitions Blaster
Darkfire Avenger DM/SD/Body Scrapper
Arc ID#161629 Freaks, Geeks, and Men in Black
Arc ID#431270 Until the End of the World
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You have to realize two things.|
Originally Posted by Eva Destruction
Are you...seriously using SG base rent as an argument against adding an item? Do you not have time to run one mission a month in SG mode to pay the rent cost of such a useful item?
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One, the SGs I'm in are not particularly active. But the cost is not the issue here, rather the inconvenience of having to actively pay that rent, and deal with the consequences of it lapsing.
Second, those SGs would not incur any rent under the old system, and I didn't appreciate having that rug pulled out from under me with the ones that existed prior to that change.
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I've never been able to figure out, or even understand this concept. I just can't. First thing I do on any, ANY new character is disable any of the buttons or shortcuts that might trigger this in any way. This is before badges, colors, anything. And if I mess it up trying to get into the options, then I'll quit and relog that character immediately.|
Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
Oh, here's something that's incredibly useful that people never use:
MOUSE LOOK |
I've never been able to handle free-look, and it's one of my primary reasons of hating almost all console games.
There are no words for what this community, and the friends I have made here mean to me. Please know that I care for all of you, yes, even you. If you Twitter, I'm MrThan. If you're Unleashed, I'm dumps. I'll try and get registered on the Titan Forums as well. Peace, and thanks for the best nine years anyone could ever ask for.
The Arachnos Disguise from Agent G in Faultline.
If you have a bunch of missions coming up you prefer to stealth, go open his arc in flashback, run the first really easy mission, accept the second mission, quit task force. You now have a full hour of perfect stealth (perfect in that it does not suppress when a glowie is clicked).
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You will still have to pay rent on storage and medical items even if you don't have an empowerment station.|
Originally Posted by IanTheM1
You have to realize two things.
One, the SGs I'm in are not particularly active. But the cost is not the issue here, rather the inconvenience of having to actively pay that rent, and deal with the consequences of it lapsing. Second, those SGs would not incur any rent under the old system, and I didn't appreciate having that rug pulled out from under me with the ones that existed prior to that change. |
Yes, I agree that it is a PITA. Mine lapses all the time, and we do have quite a few active members. None of them ever remember to pay. Then I have to go do it myself. All for one mission's worth of rent. But that's a different issue for a different thread.
Eva Destruction AR/Fire/Munitions Blaster
Darkfire Avenger DM/SD/Body Scrapper
Arc ID#161629 Freaks, Geeks, and Men in Black
Arc ID#431270 Until the End of the World
Umm was the thread title a binary joke?
- The other 6 powers in Empathy..
I have one:
Your map
Seriously, open it, detach it, shrink it down a bit, move it to a place on the screen where it doesn't block your view. When the team is splitting, you'll know it immediately. When there's one objective left on the map, you'll see it. I know a lot of people don't use their maps at all, or only open it occasionally to look and then close it so it doesn't block their vision.
Vidiot Map Pack Technically not a part of the game, but if you're at all interested in collecting badges... go download their map pack.
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All of which, incidentally, I also don't have, and for the same reasons.|
Originally Posted by Eva Destruction
You will still have to pay rent on storage and medical items even if you don't have an empowerment station.
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Unless and until these three things happen:
1. Bases lose all form of rent entirely. If they need to go inactive, have them go inactive after the SG hasn't had activity in a week, then have them reactivate when a member attempts to enter them.
2. I am either allowed to have personal bases, base costs can be paid with INF (at a LOT under the current cutthroat conversion rate), or I am allowed to invite, promote and demote my own alts.
3. Something is done to the editor to where I don't have to spend an hour and a half to make a simple conference room which doesn't look like complete crap, be it through templates or through not making it so hard for me to put in a wall vent.
I will not respect bases as something I want to invest in on every single character that I have, and unless I can use something on every character, I'm not interested in using it on any character ever. My characters are all equal in my eyes. I have no "main," I have no favourites.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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If a blue wisp vet pet is buffed by a sonic defender who's favourite colour is pink you can have your very own baby hamidon that follows you around 
Thelonious Monk
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Not to mention that Deceive is life itself for a low-level Illusion controller.
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Originally Posted by rian_frostdrake
anyone who doesnt respect confuse has not played a plant dominator, i cant imagine not having it, it is, dare i say, set defining.
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"But in our enthusiasm, we could not resist a radical overhaul of the system, in which all of its major weaknesses have been exposed, analyzed, and replaced with new weaknesses."
-- Bruce Leverett, Register Allocation in Optimizing Compilers
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Hit them with Speed Boost and Increase Density, and the pet disappears entirely inside an eye-searing glow...
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Originally Posted by Melancton
But the BEST thing is when my drone gets an ice armor buff. It will have 6 inches of ice hanging on it, flying with no problems at all, bemusing me greatly.
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"But in our enthusiasm, we could not resist a radical overhaul of the system, in which all of its major weaknesses have been exposed, analyzed, and replaced with new weaknesses."
-- Bruce Leverett, Register Allocation in Optimizing Compilers
Samuel_Tow: You have no perspective. There are workarounds for all these things. Base rent is trivial. "I don't want to do that" is a perfectly good reason to not make bases, and yet you insist on making it into some sort of crusade against evil. What will you do when you run into a REAL problem?
... sorry, that wasn't what I came in here for.
I agree with a lot of these. I didn't see this on the list:
N+1: Went-temp powers. I know we're all sick of deleting the hammers and baseball bats and Q-tips and whatever else, but there are some real, valid, useful temp powers in there. My list, and it's possible I'm overlooking some:
* Recovery Serum. Double-stamina from level 3 or so, five times before I have to recraft it? Yes please. When do I need it? L1-20, yes, I go through a few of em. But even after that... Super Stunners, wake-from-mez-in-midfight, nuke-crash, brute-without-enough-slots, dark armor, etc. etc.
* Ethereal Shift. Neener neener!
* Med packs. I know, I'm paying 50,000 inf per green insp. Maybe more. And I'm happy to do it.
* Plasmatic Tasers. I'm trying to break myself of this habit, because they run out ALL the time, but for my characters without enough AOE (all but, like, four) they're great. For the times I get overwhelmed, they put around half of the baddies on the floor over THERE. It's offense, it's defense, it's a floor wax and a dessert topping. Bam!
There are others I use occasionally, on various characters, but that's my A-list.
Mini-guides: Force Field Defenders, Blasters, Market Self-Defense, Frankenslotting.
So you think you're a hero, huh.
@Boltcutter in game.
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
Furthermore, even today, I see plenty of people do the "slow turn." What I mean by this is a person will run up to a dead end, realise it, then slooowly turn around in place before running back. I know how slowly characters turn with Q and E, and I can spot it from a mile away. How do these people use Super Speed at all?
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You start out at 300% default, I increase mine to around 450%-500% so I don't turn so slowly. Any more than that it gets difficult to control, but around 475% is just about perfect.
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately. |
Ya know, if my 0-end to summon, 6 second recharge vet pet wants to take the alpha for me, I'm all for that plan.