Roleplay, Plots and the World.


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I think floaty, the evnts they're refering to happened in the Open RP thread thing.

You know that no one who wasn't involved in the Open Season plot had any reason to go anywhere near?


 

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This is all getting really damn petty and silly now.

The be all and end all of the matter is; the event is simply implausible in the setting its in. There would be large repreccusions. As there is no reasonable way to portray this in-game and barely so even on the forums, I would seriously reccomend that the event gets retconned. Either that, or we'll be circling in this same arguement for ages. Or the majority of people will simply ignore it, and carry on with the more fun part of Open Season, which was easily explained and played.


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...It was presented as a happened and finished incident in a single very short post...
Wrong.

CB, thanks for the forum RP, it was fun. Good luck with these lot, seems you'll need it. I'm off to play some games.


 

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Or the majority of people will simply ignore it, and carry on with the more fun part of Open Season, which was easily explained and played.
"Ignore what?"

"This plot, which I've been happily ignoring up till now and will continue to do so"

"No, no I was acting like I'd all ready forgotten it"

"Forgotten what?"

"I hate you"


 

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Wrong.

CB, thanks for the forum RP, it was fun. Good luck with these lot, seems you'll need it. I'm off to play some games.
For those that don't read your open rp thread as they have no interest in it and don't want to be involved in it, and I don't, it was presented as a fait accompli.


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Wrong.

CB, thanks for the forum RP, it was fun. Good luck with these lot, seems you'll need it. I'm off to play some games.
As I pointed out, not everyone pays attention to every Open RP thread, this was the first many had heard about it.

No need for that kind of attitude Pious.


 

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Yeah, I don't like the Court stuff or CB's plots but I don't mind them happening until they become so shambling and monstrous they start to intrude in such a way that they're impossible to ignore.

While you were keeping it inside an Open RP thread I didn't read, I didn't mind. When it starts to spill out into the overall meta-plot it becomes a problem.


 

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As I pointed out, not everyone pays attention to every Open RP thread, this was the first many had heard about it.

No need for that kind of attitude Pious.
To be fair everyone's attitudes in this thread have started to deteriorate.

Though now it's seeming like I'm going to end up getting even more annoyed, if peoples view is "Your RP should have no impact on my RP, even if I can join in and influence it in the form of an open RP thread, yet I've chosen to ignore that opportunity.".

For example, no heroes in the thread bothered to search the school for survivors (which kinda shocked me) instead focusing on the big robot, which would of reduced the casualties.


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To be fair everyone's attitudes in this thread have started to deteriorate.

Though now it's seeming like I'm going to end up getting even more annoyed, if peoples view is "Your RP should have no impact on my RP, even if I can join in and influence it in the form of an open RP thread, yet I've chosen to ignore that opportunity.".

For example, no heroes in the thread bothered to search the school for survivors (which kinda shocked me) instead focusing on the big robot, which would of reduced the casualties.
That's probably because most who would have never bothered to take part in the plot in the first place.


 

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Major problem;
People in-game who don't read the forums. Its...such a huge detach that on something this scale, there is no good way to handle it. It'll just lead to IC confusion and mess-up, OOC annoyance from both 'sides' and...it really doesn't seem worth it to me. *shrug*


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To be fair everyone's attitudes in this thread have started to deteriorate.

Though now it's seeming like I'm going to end up getting even more annoyed, if peoples view is "Your RP should have no impact on my RP, even if I can join in and influence it in the form of an open RP thread, yet I've chosen to ignore that opportunity.".

For example, no heroes in the thread bothered to search the school for survivors (which kinda shocked me) instead focusing on the big robot, which would of reduced the casualties.
I'm still being the same as I was at the start.

Problem is CB, not everyone wants to be involved in every plot, they might not like what's behind it or how it's being done or whatever, RPing is a shared experiance, it's not just one persont elling others what happens, its interactive storytelling.

The problem comes when you get to teh point where characters can no longer ignore events in plots they don't want to take aprt in, Open Season for example is the whole Hunters vs The things they've been hunting, those people without characters invovlved on either side have had no reason to check up on it.

Then suddenly they get hit by somthing they can ignore, and it's impclciations remove both your characer, the entire SG in terms of the court and possibley even bring the Nighthunters in for questioning on how thier private war was allowed to escalate thus far.

Now I may not be a fan of The Court, but efectivly having the entire community put them on global ignore? It's a bit far.


 

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The problem though is that the event is so big and so wide ranging, that now the world is forced to pay attention, regardless of whether they were involved with that thread or not. I don't tend to get involved with large scale plots, mainly because I loose track of what's going on and struggle to keep up. However, I still RP within the Union Universe and so other plots and events do affect my characters. So now this atrocity has occurred, I'm left with three options:

1) Ignore it completely and retcon it out of the universe OOC and IC.

2) Force all of my characters to accept that it happened but have every single one of them turn their backs on it which is, quite frankly, character breaking.

3) Force me to participate in the plot.

If your recommendation is number 3, you might see why some people are annoyed.


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Wait what...

what... *deadpan* what?


I don't read every RP thread. I had *no* idea that this school story happened. I have a character that works *in a school*, I have characters attend schools. I'm seeing a big problem here.

((IT'S THE SUMMER BREAK.))


Why were there more than a handful of children in a school in August?

I mean, did I just overlook some really pertinent piece of information that explains the stupid away? Because there's this gaping plothole I'm seeing here.

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Anyway, on with my opinion.

It's going to be ignored by me. Sorry, but this plot is not something I would be comfortable RPing, nor have I had any preparation for it, nor do I like the tone being used to explain it to the un-aware masses.

Sorry, but no. Just no.

You may continue as you see fit. It won't include me.


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As for the "wide" events. I was writing a terrorist attack story for Forseverse, the punishment Chimera was about to pay to the Trollkins for their assisting the Wand team. I won't be writing it now because of its topic. It wasn't against a school but it was nearly as bad (numbers were considerably lower though), and I don't think it could be taken well by the RP community so close to a similiar plot being taken so badly.


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Yeah. I liked the writing I did for Leon and the DeFeurards, but as far as im concerned, this is retcon territory. You can ache on as much as you like. I will continue with the rest of Open Season, because for the vast majority it's been fine, fun and interesting. But I'm skipping on this part.


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Wait what...

what... *deadpan* what?


I don't read every RP thread. I had *no* idea that this school story happened. I have a character that works *in a school*, I have characters attend schools. I'm seeing a big problem here.

((IT'S THE SUMMER BREAK.))


Why were there more than a handful of children in a school in August?
In the United States, summer vacation lasts for almost 3 months. The dates vary depending on the location of the school district. Most schools take summer vacation from early to mid June to Labour Day or from late May to late August. School may start as early as late July or early August, often in the southern part of the country.

So it's quite likely that schools in Rhode Island have recommenced by now.


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Now as i've been out of this plot for a while due to RL. Plus only being a now and again rper and this being my first partaking into a plot this big, even though not recently. I think its fair to say it was intended all along that somone will find out it was not the Court at all.

As well the idea of. (OMG THE COURT DON'T EXSIST AND EVERY CHAR REMOTELY CONNECTED TO IT MUST BE IGNORED!!!). is a little silly, I can see why but it is jumping the gun a little. I mean the Court characters theirselves could say on the most part. What?! and possibly turn on it when they find out, so theoretically, if the court does get blown up or wiped out for something like this. Some of the court would walk out and turn on their allies for this, so even that can be dealt with IC if the need arises.

However I don't think thats the point of the plot here. To the best of my knowledge it was always intended to be found out that the real culprit was nothing to do with the Court. As well franky I belive that folks didn't want to drag anyones characters into it and certainly don't want to kill peoples characters off as everyone hates god modding thats one thing we all agree on.


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Even in the UK some schools start with September as well, I think one of the local ones starts tomorrow.


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I was aware they ran for a long summer, starting early. I wasn't aware that Mar should already have started back at school though. Meep. He should be starting his High School stuff now and be at Skyway High where Rauri's the counsellor and Tam's assistant coach.

Also, CB, most if not all English schools of the non-private variety will be starting this week or next. Some tomorrow/friday, some monday/tuesday. I've never known them to start during August, or after the first week of september. Universities and colleges will start two to three weeks after secondary schools do. (Working in School Healthcare does have some benefits I guess...)

Unfortunately, that knowledge doesn't help me with the American system.

Even so, this makes the tragedy of those children dying all the more tragic. They'd just started school. There's *no* way you could possibly hope to sweep any of the emotional impact under the carpet.


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Even in the UK some schools start with September as well, I think one of the local ones starts tomorrow.
It's only just gone the 1st of September. So thats a pretty thin arguement as well.


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Now as i've been out of this plot for a while due to RL. Plus only being a now and again rper and this being my first partaking into a plot this big, even though not recently. I think its fair to say it was intended all along that somone will find out it was not the Court at all. As well the diea of. (OMG THE COURT DON'T EXSIST AND EVERY CHAR REMOTELY CONNECTED TO IT MUST BE IGNORED!!!). is a little silly, I can see why but it is jumping the gun a little. I mean the Court characters theirselves could say on the most part. What?! and possibly turn on it when they find out, so theoretically if the court does get blown up, wiped out for something like this even some of the court would walk out and turn on their allies for this, so even that can be dealt with IC if the need arises.

However I don't think thats the point of the plot here. To the best of my knowledge it was always intended to be found out that the real culprit was nothing to do with the Court. As well franky I belive that folks didn't want to drag anyones characters into it and certainly don't want to kill people off as everyone hates god modding thats one thing we all agree on.
It was talked about the Court because that's who it was assumed to be OOC. In all honesty, as said before, every single hero would be after who did it and by ALL those "hackers", telepaths, magicians and so on... it's pretty safe to say that from a roleplaying point of few, it's very likely whoevery was responsible would be found. That's part of the problem here actually. This plot would cause a response so big that we don't even have the ability to appropriatly react to it, we would have to ask the devs to help us with that.


 

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we would have to ask the devs to help us with that.
Even the Devs wouldn't do something like this, and they made Phipps!


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Even the Devs wouldn't do something like this, and they made Phipps!
Phipps is old hat, Mother Mayhem now she is evil!


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Well I have trouble following the RP community as a whole, however in my past experiances in the plots related to the open season plot, it has usually been worked out. Thats my take on it anyway as I am a bit out of the loop.


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Normally yes, because they havn't murdered a 1000 school kids on thier first day of school.


 

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As I said I'm willing to change what happened after input from Pious, Game and Bathory. Still waiting on two of them.


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