Roleplay, Plots and the World.

Being somewhat of a Lore Hog I feel compelled to point out that CB's event here would be the most devistatign single attack since the Rikti war.

This is the kind of thing that would Mobilise the Freedom Phalanx, Dawn Patrol, Vindicatres, Longbow, Hero Corps, Wyvern and if it's magic related the Midnigth Squad.

Not to mention even some villian groups or individual villians would think this is too far, I for one can see Crey jumping onto this to garner some good publicity.

Simpley put, the approprate in game responce would be things way beyond our simple RP powers, it's kinda a Dev scale world altering event.

So yea, say what you want, but in my humble opinion somthing of this scale we shouldn't be doing, it changes the world too much. Of course it doesn't help that there's a fine line between big plot and world changing plot, to use Techs Arachnos invasion as an example, it was a concentrated bout of Arachnos activity that did some symbolic damage as was driven back.

That's belivable and doesn't shatter the balance of how things are in the world, heck the fact that the Freedom Phalanx spawns in Recluses Victory to try and fight helps in that matter :P

But yea, somthing this scale would have an approriate scale responce we can't simulate, unless you want the Court to be finished off screen or somthing?

This viewpoint is from someone who still guilts herself over the way she handled plots she ran from the beginning of Union Roleplay. I still give myself mental lashings for things like the Doctor Piper Plot (Rogue Crey scientist experiments on children to try and make a Devouring Earth controlling being to use against them), the death of Hannah Rolando (Resulted in the implosion from angst of the Rooftop Generation teen SG, plot and fights at GG, so on), the two Orbis Agenda plots (One old, one more recent, both with facepalm worthy bits in), so many other plots and even recently, some personal plot with a character that I've screwed up the handling off.

I felt niggles at my conscience when Fear Trigger shot around 40 Family members and affiliates and burned down a bar/gambling den/brothel. It should have really been 20 or so, but with the amount of rounds fired in the story... yep, another regret, I gather them like cupcakes in RP!

I think there's certain numbers and plots that can break the suspension of disbelief for some people. Not just for those involved. There are times during RP when I think "-I- (as in, the player) really don't want to get involved in this, but -Character- would." And then that's normally followed by introducing my forehead to my desk a few times.

I'm probably rambling, if so, I apologise. Tough day at work. Gonna go collapse in the corner and try and think more coherently later.

You've done reasonable Supervillianly before CB, when Baron eterinty attacked Steel Canyon with Dinsours.

That was some prety big supervilllany without cuasing world shattering damage or altereations.

Ultimatly though we can't change the game world, so the Supervillians plot to turn the world into monkies must fail, but by the same token the supervillian must escape to try again another day.

Our characters have no choice but to react to this, just as you would have no chocie but to acknowledge if someone blew up a building in your hometown.

And that's where it goes too far CB, we can't write it off as reasonable background event, we can't just ignore it, because it's so much bigger and more terrible then anything else.

And this is why I've been avoiding RP meets with you CB, because I can't just write your characers out of reality, yet I've quite frankly had enough of them, and of things like this.

ETA: And come on guys, as argumentative and annoying as I am, you know in the end I'm jsut looking out for the fun RP for everyone, oh and trying to keep consistant with lore!

To explain CB, this isn't like the Jokers latest scheme that Batman has to foil, what you've done and pulled is a massive crisis crossover event type thing.

And as much as they might want to characters can't ignore those, like the idocy of Countdown that the entire DC line had to suffer through.

And I provided and abridged list of people who'd respond.

The real list includes just about every faction and group in the game universe capable of responding.

Arachnos doesn't go that far.

Guess I should say something...

Well, as the instigator of the aforementioned personal plot, which has been cooking since HeroCon last October, I find myself in the wonderful position that I have a stunningly brilliant reason to ignore the aforementioned large-scale plot. My main, both versions of her, are well out of it. One is currently missing, and is actually a psychopathic villain who would probably have a good giggle at the news report. The other is trying her hardest to remain out of sight of all the heroes because she murdered her Praetorian dad and is an illegal immigrant to Paragon City. All in all, neither of them is going to get involved.

I'm afraid that, even if this were not the case, I would be coming up with excuses to avoid this one. I've done it with other plots not nearly as large scale as this one. In this case it would require some OOC activity, namely declaring that, as far as I was concerned, it didn't happen. Unsatisfying, but necessary. Something on this scale is just a Bad Thing. Sorry. (That's a generic statement on a plot of this scale, not a specific comment.)

I know it's coming back to the St Johns event again, but I would frankly make this reccomendation;

Retcon it. Yes, its clunky and horrible and ugly. But it's either that or major, unavoidable fallout for the Court. Is everyone who plays in it ok with that? The people who play with them? Because there is no realistic way this can be side-stepped.
Heck, it'd give Alpha the excuse to fire Reason at Castle Bathory. Because he could. Very easily.

Before people ask about that, he avoids using the railcannon on, say, a daily or even weekly basis for a number of reasons. OOC, its because I cannot be bothered to truck back to Warburg and stock up on the nukes I use as the In-Game power. IC, theres a long list.
1) Every round fired, and the energy needed to fire it, is incredibly expensive. That Alpha can get away with it at all is due to the fact that, hey, he's a criminal and a tech genius. He can leech money with comparitive ease.
2) Keeping cards close to the chest. For now, theres little more than dark rumour that annoying the Techbot can get you in a big heap of trouble. The sparse usage keeps people edgy and worried, their imagination doing more work than a high-cal shell could ever do.
3) Secrecy. Reason is a big investment and one of Alphas top pet projects. He keeps her running quiet and cloaked on the dark-side of the moon, in geo-stationary orbit. He does not want it advertised that she's there, or someone would go up and either try and commandeer it for irressonsible(er) use, or to destroy it. Both of which would require him hunting them down and killing them.

/tangent

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Originally Posted by Zwillinger GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.

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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

Personally I say wait and see what Game, Pious and Bathory want to do with the situation.

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I'll also try and keep my bitter amusement about how it's a shared continuity only when I'm the one getting told off for messing with it, when it's some one else I'm told to use the 'ignore it' option to a minimum.

Agreed with /retcon.

Or tone it down. A lot. Blow up one classroom, but let the kids be in the playground. Kill a couple. We all know that people die in comic-books (or not...), but an atrocity on this scale would be responded to in a big way.

I've been avoiding saying what my characters' responses would be, because I know full well that it would just turn into a pointless e-peen-waving contest, and frankly, I RP to have fun, not to get frustrated at other people.