Roleplay, Plots and the World.

I had a fairly detailed post for my argument on this whole nonsense, but...I'm kindof glad it got deleted. It means I have less things to worry about.

The TL;DR of what I wrote:

The trust required for this event is not something I am willing to give. Y'all can do what you want. I don't care. Despite what others have said, I DON'T have to involve myself in coercive roleplay. Period.

Peace.

Bathory's on holiday for another 2 weeks.

Ok the post happened in game today, as in this morning, the nighthunters are gathered around Schmitts bed after he was crushed by the robots leg, we have discussed what happened and because of such things as Erez'Zul at first attacking it, his little speech and of course other things, we have decided (and rightly so) that it wasnt the courts fault.

Now...The press will want to speak to a high profile hero like the priest considering it was about him and because of him...they will and he will tell them his suspicions, the court may even be asked to give a statement, you dont just instantly attack someone because it has a tattoo of your family crest, at the very least they will take the priests words into consideration AND the fact that the rogue isles belong to Lord recluse (who does kill children, why would you think he wouldnt?? ever been to the future where atlas is a smoking ruin? yeah....everyone dead).
Lord Recluse wouldnt let them enter in such a way, and basically all heroes are the governments tool, well...the ones who are registered anyway, so they follow the government about this sort of thing, watch the news and wait....thats all, it happened today, give it a couple of days to see what happens perhaps?

And techbot theres no way you can ignore this but still be in the plot, if game, bath, pious and CB decide to retcon it, fine, until then you either accept it or leave

And what of us in the rest of the RP community? Hmmm somthing of this scale goes beyond your plot.

Or do we not matter as we're outside the club?

Right. I propose someone get in touch with Brit/Game, or wait until he comes back, since this is when alls said and done his plot. It's heaping responsibility on the poor guy too, but thats really the only way we can have this without someones being on someone elses side, or somesuch.

Until then, I'd also suggest we just let it lie for now. Yes, its clunky and hamfisted, but it's either that or we go round and round and round in the same arguement over and over, and people will jsut get narked OOC and that will get into the IC...which is bad.

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Originally Posted by Zwillinger GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.

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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

Oh I'm pretty narked OOC already, though not about this. F.E.A.R 2 is not as scary as F.E.A.R ¬_¬

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Okay, I think a number of personalities have become involved here, and it's entirely possible that a few "old sore spots" have been raised.

My stance on this is as follows:

As long as RP doesn't impact the game-world in a big way, it's fine.

As long as RP can be ignored or not, with the choice down to the individual players, it's fine.

The massacre of a large number of children is a HUGE deal. Nobody is actually saying that some plottage of this nature can't happen, the objection stems solely from the fact that this is so huge and far-reaching that it is impossible to ignore without breaking character, and there are very few players who are willing to do that.

I am personally uncomfortable with RPing in the shared Unionverse if my characters are not allowed to express themselves in the manner I believe they should, and on the basis of the information available (and considering that heroes are generally reactive rather than proactive), most of my characters would choose to take direct action against the perceived perpetrators.

I do not wish them to do this.

However, as presented, unless I break character, they will. My only other option is to disbelieve the events.

For anyone claiming that the plot wasn't presented as a fait accompli, it's already hit the media,according to "In the Newspapers", so it has happened.

I'm going to ignore it as an event, I'm afraid. I've never had to do so, yet, RPing on Union. I'm disappointed that I find myself in a position where I'm either forced to take cognizance of an event that would infuriate my characters into drastic action or ignore it, but until or unless it is toned down to the point where I can comfortably have my characters say, IC, "A terrible tragedy, but there isn't anything we can do - let their enemies deal with them, to save me from going overboard" - which is simultaneously accepting the events and not getting involved - then I'm not prepared to accept it.

That may make me a bad RPer, and I have no desire to be one, but I have less desire to find myself embroiled in a plot I didn't choose to take part in.

*coughs*

Citizens of Union RPtopia...

Now I have run several big community based plots, the Chronodyne incident has been mentioned and that grew into one when originally it was just going to be a smaller, more character based (Dr Mechano isn't the harmless old man you thought he was kind of deal) but quite a few people took a lot of umbrage with what Edward was doing and stepped in. Mind you I already had the end planned out before even starting.

As someone who has played a terror to the heroes of Paragon through several 'attacks' (mostly harmless to be fair) you CAN have large plots which do alter the community slightly and still not go overboard.

The key to building for these plots is 'ignorability', heck other characters mentioning the events can be seen as 'background news' for the characters not involved in the plot ("Did you hear Dr Mechano tried to blow up city hall by filling it with a selection of liquid cheeses?" "What happened?" "Oh we stopped him in the end..." to which the non-plot person can simply go "hmm that was interesting news..." and carry on with their lives).

Admittedly my big plot style is quite different from both the usual American and EU plot bases, I am a lazy, lazy GM most of the time. I present a situation ("The president has been kidnapped, are you a bad enough dude to save him?") and then go to the people involved, "you may solve this situation any way you see fit...but atleast send me private messages asking me if certain things are ok first if you are unsure...".

The main example of this was the biggest plot I ever pulled, the simultaneous pranking of three hero SG bases, three villain SG bases and two private individuals, after much talking with the SG leaders and private individuals I merely explained what happened to each of them and the rest was built from the reaction to those situations.

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I will point out this question only really affects the EU side of things since the US side is very fragmented and as such doesn't really have a Shared Universe approach that the Unionverse does.