When powered heroes lose their powers, how many fall back on technology or natural skill?

Back in a thread that I created about a month ago, I questioned why most super -heroes don't undertake Martial Arts to at least refine their technique. Some good answers were given. I wanted to ask this question in that thread, but it didn't really fit. So here it is.

Sometimes, the powers of powered heroes are supressed, and sometimes downright removed. Magic, mutant collars that nullify powers, et al. It doesn't stop some heroes however, as many of them have worked alongside heroes who either wore powered armor, used gadgets, or Martial Arts. I can list a few that I've seen over the years:

Ben Grimm: When he lost his powers, Mr. Fantastic created a suit of armor that replicated his abilities, though to a weaker degree

The X-Men: Most of them have undergone extensive martial arts training, and there were a few mutants who began to use technology when the majority of them lost their powers permanently

Superman: His controversial energy form due to a containment suit (I forgot where, but there were rumors that his containment suit actually made him more powerful than he was with his original powers)

It's a rather small list, as it's what I could come up with at moment.

Are there any others?

The most recent relaunch of the New Warriors involved heroes that were all Tech-powered.

Most of them were former mutants (Jubilee, Chamber) who lost their powers on M-Day or whatever.

The series was pretty bad and cancelled after maybe 20 issues. I don't recommend it (some great looking covers though).

I think you're asking mostly about supplemental abilities? Or just any who turn to tech to fill-in for their limitations?

I can't tell if this applies, but one of the original Slingers (Hornet) had cerebral palsy, and his suit allowed him to bypass any physical limitations. I always thought that was a really cool story.

Again, I can't tell how broad your question is. If it's as broad as I think, wouldn't Peter Parker's mechanical web-shooters supplementing his "proportionate strength and speed of a spider" be an apt example?

I actually remember a Superman Annual from back in the days of energy-Supes, where Lois and most of their friends were captured by... someone (I forget who), and Clark had to stage a rescue attempt without changing into Superman and using his powers. He actually managed to be kinda badass as I recall, but then again he's still pretty physically fit even without his powers.

We've also seen that most of Earth's Green Lanterns would still put up a fight with their rings drained.

Actually, there was a recent storyarc in JSA called "Fatherland" that dealt with a neo-Nazi supergroup called the Fourth Reich actually depowering everyone on Earth and taking over, and years later the heroes (and villains!) stage a revolt in spite of the impossible odds against them.

When Storm lost her powers, she fell back on Thief-Fu, Yukio-Fu, and Wolvie-Fu. She was very scary. She used no gadgets outside of high heeled boots, a knife and found-weapons in the environment.

Former mutant Prodigy, who could pick up the knowledge of anyone within a certain radius, stayed with the X-Men as a base coordinator after he lost his mutant power. There was a plot when he still had his power where he tried to change things so that he kept all the knowledge he gained, but I don't remember how it was resolved.

Magog also set up training for the JSA All-Stars so that they could still fight without their powers.

good luck D.B.B.

There was a 'M-Day' What-if where Wanda said 'No more Superpowers'. I remember it killed Captain America right away because he lost the Super Soldier serum. Tony Stark created a bunch of Iron Man Armors for the current avengers team and they had to fight Ultron, I think everyone died...or there was a 'We're all still heroes on the inside speech' which might have just killed my interest.

The current Supergirl has some martial arts training from Batman and the Amazons, she used it rather well while under the effects of Gold Kryptonite.

An arc in Batman/Superman had Bruce and Clark switching powers, so Clark tried to do some of Batman's training and didn't take to it as well as Bruce took to Superman's powers, which drove him a little nuts.

Hal Jordan can throw a pretty good punch without the ring. Recently in Green Arrow he was stuck without the ring's powers while Hal and Ollie were being attacked.

Tony Stark was erasing his brain for about 12 issues during Dark Reign, which is his superpower. He had a backup, fortunately.

There was storyline in Captain America were the super soilder serum in his blood became poisonous to him. He had to have the serum removed and basically relearn how to do all his acrobatics since he no longer had super agility. The struggles Steve went through to get back to the level of skill he had were mostly presented form a third party. Black Widow or Diamond Back would school him in some workout and the thought bubble above her head would convey pity then admiration for Steve trying so hard.

I thought it was an interesting storyline, it was actual character development, something I'd argue never really existed in the comic before. It was a way better arc then that time they took away Captains costume and the US government forbade him from wearing the colors Red White and Blue.

You have to take into account what they use and how they use it...

Peter Parker for example would likely become a much weaker version of himself. I'm sure he has the web fluid formula down somewhere (he gain the knowledge of how to make it from the bite) His body, regardless of losing the powers would still be in pique condition and have a lot of it's muscle memory retained. The problem with him is that he'd likely hurt himself in his first outing by pulling something when he tries to bend too far. He also might dislocate something when he tries to swing because that takes a lot of strength to do what he does how he does it. That however can be fixed with tech. So his main problem is really his stretching and over reliance on spider sense...with those two creating such a problem he'd likely die in his first outing.

Hal, and most of the GLs have gone through military training, both earthly and Oan. They would just switch from relying on Light power to relying on a suit.

The X-men... it depends on which one we are talking about. The regenners are likely to die or be massively injured no matter how good they are due to their reliance on that power. The psychics too as their awareness would throw them. "i can't hear anyone approaching from behind therefor there is noone behind me" It's something that Batman does to psychics some times, quieting his thoughts. However, most of the X-men don't have this over reliance on that type stuff so what they'd end up doing is just start using more practical means, like guns and sonic blasters and such... However... most of them are doing it for self preservation in the first place as mutants...if they aren't mutants any more their reason for doing it is gone and they probably wouldn't continue.

Thats pretty much the entire idea of the elseworld Act Of God.(there's 3 parts to the review of it.) Too bad it's a terrible story.

Black Cat gained gear from the Tinker to amp up herself after she lost her other powers. (she's rerolled a couple times.)

Jubliee as mentioned became Wondra with the Wizards tech. (she's currently a vampire last I heard.)

Actually i got a few for you.

Peter Parker did loose his powers, that why Iron Man gave him the red and gold number...
The super soldier syrum ran out on Capt and a certin industrialist billionaarie made his a power suit for the intrium, he was also banned from america and used a energy shield and black suit for a while.

Remember Tigra?

She started as The Cat, who used a power suit, however eventually she met th business end of a Hydra Radiation gun and Dr. Rumulo saved her by turning her into Tigra the were woman!

Darkhawk?
After being split from his android later ego young Chris Prowell did what he could, he even wore the Turbo armor once and worled along side DH a few times. Hell he had his jewel riped out of his chest and was dieing but still fought on!

Also, another thing with Peter, even with his powers he often takes quite a lot of beatings. The only reason he can bounce back is because of his healing factor. Without his powers, after one of those beatings he'd be in hospital for months.

I think Peter would probably look for a tech way of becoming a crime fighter, I expect he'd also learn a few things with other heroes he knows, like Daredevil.

Actually there was a Spider-Man arc where he did lose his powers briefly. it was during one of those arcs back in the 90s when they for no reason put ASM out every 2 weeks. He lost his powers, but still put the suit on to go out there and try to fight crime. It didn't work out so well.

Oh, I'm sure it's happened plenty, I just don't think it was in the Stark-Armor era.

Across the Marvel universe the Mutants after the M-Day Decimation are very much this. I'm not sure what happened to Jubilee in that horrid comic.

The depowered mutant I think of helping a lot is Richtor on X-Factor. He's still a full fledged member last I checked.

Brian Bendis has a book, Powers, on a hero who is depowered, and continues to fight crime. Hero becomes a cop on the superhero related crime department. It's a fun and vulgar read.

http://www.hiddenrobot.com/POWERS/

Oh, good point with Powers.

Christian Walker is a former superhero who lost his powers and became a detective.

Due to all 'a his responsibility, he garnered the attention of an alien race who passed on a legacy super-power to him called the Millenium Guard.

So he's powered again, in a different capacity.