Any alien race that has ever tried to fight the power rangers. I me they have freaking NUMBERS, an endless supply of soldiers and so on and they got beaten by a team of 5-8 'teenagers with attitude' to the point their main man must intervene and even THAT guy is KILLED.
"After ten-thousand years I'm free! It's time to attempt to conquer Earth only to get my butt handed to me by a bunch of kids that only just gained superpowers and have to fight my giant monsters in a robot that could easily be taken out by a virus but seeing as how I am 'unstoppable' I will never think of trying that!"
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To her credit, she survived the Zordon era.
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Originally Posted by The Lone Hero
Any alien race that has ever tried to fight the power rangers. I me they have freaking NUMBERS, an endless supply of soldiers and so on and they got beaten by a team of 5-8 'teenagers with attitude' to the point their main man must intervene and even THAT guy is KILLED.
"After ten-thousand years I'm free! It's time to attempt to conquer Earth only to get my butt handed to me by a bunch of kids that only just gained superpowers and have to fight my giant monsters in a robot that could easily be taken out by a virus but seeing as how I am 'unstoppable' I will never think of trying that!" |
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Here's the thing: whatever the reason for the Borg only sending one ship as an invasion force, it has to be explained on screen. Otherwise, all you get is fan speculation attempting to fill in the logic gaps, and when they do that they think like the characters in the story rather than the writer who wrote the story, who may have had an explanation but forgot it or never thought about it in the first place.|
Originally Posted by Mr_Mac
Easy answer.
Like Douglas Adams once wrote: Space is big, like really big, mind bogglingly massive etc... Most of the Borg as far as we know are in the delta quadrant. Even with Transwarp drive it takes years to get from the delta quadrant to here. If they used the transwarp conduit netwok thingy the amount of energy required to move a fleet large enough to ensure complete destruction/assimilation of the entire Federation, accross the galaxy would be astronomical. Then taking into account the amount of species still in the Delta Quadrant yet to be asimilated and the fact that the Federation is too far away to be a real threat (Before Voyager destroyer of Borg) Then since Voyager crippled the Transwarp network, killed the Queen and provided the Alpha Quadrant with Uber borg killing weapons, It wouldn't make logical sense to throw ships against an enemy that could destroy entire cubes with one torpedo until a defence had been developed. Not to mention they already have one of thoses type of enemies at their doorstep and after their losses to both Voyager and Species 8472 (Hate the name Udine) it makes more sense to consoldate and rebuild for now while another Queen is bred/created... The first cube to attack the Federation was following the Enterprise and was already a long long way from Borg space before it continued onto Earth via the famous battle of Wolf 359. The second cube was supposed to take out the Federation before it even existed. Neither of these "attacks" were full frontal assaults. Rather a scout and a somewhat blunt attempt at a surgical(ish) strike. If you want Full on Borg invasion though, Read the Destiny Novels. Dubbed not canon since STO took on the Post Next Generation story but still a good take on a Borg invasion. The Borg in my view are just Logical, if a little complacent... |
Now, I'll give them a pass for only one ship in the first invasion. The Federation had basically no experience with fighting the Borg, and only a vague idea of a Cube's defensive and offensive capabilities. Given the lack of experience, it's easy for the Borg to (rightly) assume that they could quickly overwhelm the Starfleet fleet with one ship. Then add the fact that they assimilated Picard, gaining his knowledge of Starfleet's tactics and defensive strategy, and they should've had an easy victory (which they almost did). So one ship in the first invasion is excusable.
But the second invasion in First Contact, they should've sent at least two cubes. First, the Borg knew that the Federation could barely handle one Cube. So two should've been more than enough to break through to Earth and begin the assimilation. Second, sending two Cubes would've been much simpler than the time travel plan they attempted to execute (which brings up craptons of other questions, but that's another discussion). Seriously, send two ships or spend time researching and gathering the resources to develop a time machine, which going to be faster and easier? Also, the whole point of assimilating the Federation is to gain the technological advances they have made, so traveling back to before them made those advances is pointless. Third, even if they can't use the transwarp network to send a fleet, is it really that difficult to send two capital ships in two seperate trips and have them rendezvous before setting out for Earth (Voyager's destruction of the transwarp hub having occured after the events of First Contact)?
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I don't think STO is canon either.
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The Martians from Mars Attacks! With music being your weakness, you think they would have noticed.
The Signs aliens. Perhaps they were here for a slave raid.
War of the World aliens. THey sent no probes either time, and seemed to think that in the intervening years, Earth's atmoshpere would change?
Giger aliens. Yes, they are wicked cool and ruthless, but there is no real strategy. Not that they need one.
Predators. Hmm humans have weapons that can hurt us now. Lets go see if I can dodge their automatic weapon as I try to slice them with my claws.
Skrulls/Kree. They are dead evolution wise, yet they try to land on a planet where a highly trained human can take them out, much less the hordes of super beings. The DC universe is not much better, but more aliens seem in Supermans league there. Still, you would think someone would have put a huge sign outside of the solar system warning of the vast powers protecting the system.
The Alien aliens because they can't reproduce without some idiot wandering up and sticking his face into the egg. Even if they succeed they spread so quickly that they end up using all available hosts within a few days.
damn parasites
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To her credit, she survived the Zordon era.
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"After ten-thousand year's I'm free! I'm Thrax and such a moma's boy."
Sorry, couldn't help that one XD
But seriously, it's kinda sad that alien invaders can't seem to stop a group of 5 - 8 people.
Then again, you have some of the other stupidest aliens.
The Worms from Kamen Rider Kabuto. They have the ability to slow down, and some can even stop, time. They have to kill humans to gain a 'human form'. However, throughout the beginning of the series they are easily overwhelmed by a lone Kamen Rider Kabuto, later own he is joined by Kamen Riders TheBee, Drake, Sasword and Gatack. At which point the Worms seem to be unable to figure out how to beat these guys. Later on they are joined by KickHopper and PunchHopper, who wind up fighting the Worms as well as the other Kamen Riders. Saddly, even when the group of Riders begin to turn on eachother and they lose more and more members the Worms are still easily defeated. :/
The signs aliens weren't stupid. See, to their species the chemical composition of our bodies is a very powerful narcotic. Once dehydrated and powdered, humans pull in big bucks on the galactic market. But of course the drug lords themselves aren't going to be out there picking the harvest any more than drug lords here on Earth do. The aliens in signs are the poor migrant children stolen (or sold) from the arms of their families and thrust out into the drug fields to gather the product. A death or maiming of one of them means nothing as they are easily replaceable.
My personal vote is for all the alien invaders from the giant monster movies. Either Godzilla or Gamera kicks the butt of their giant monster or robot every single time they try to invade. After a while you would think they would get the hint but they always head straight for Tokyo.
Don't count your weasels before they pop dink!
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Originally Posted by Mandu
Either Godzilla or Gamera kicks the butt of their giant monster or robot every single time they try to invade.
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of course, given how long they did manage to survive before they started dying, perhaps they WERE inoculated against most of earth's diseases, just not all of them. it only takes one germ to **** everything up. also, i give the martians in War of the Worlds a pass since it was written in 1898.
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Originally Posted by Pouncer
The Martians in War of the Worlds were pretty dumb for not testing air and water first for pathogens.
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The ones from Mom and Dad Save the World
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I rest my case.
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I couldn't agree more.
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It's their own tech...? Ok, they win the award for stupidest aliens.
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Actually the interesting thing with the War of the Worlds Martians.
Their planet was dying, they literally had NO other option but to invade Earth. They didn't have the time to prep for anything as that point in time was their only available timeslot to invade Earth since it was the point in time when Mars and Earth are aligned/close enough to launch an invasion fleet. They didn't have the time to go "right send the lab boys/Probes down there first, collect all the data...then we can analyze it and we'll plan accordingly". However 'drinking the blood to make us immune to diseases' was probably the stupidest thing the Aliens could have done and thus was their downfall.
Another point, the Red Weed was a sign of them actually trying to change the Atmosphere closer to Mars...so they were working on that during the Invasion...Terra Forming just takes time.
The story itself is based on the old 'invade a country, get killed by Malaria' thing that happened a LOT during the British Colonial expansion (which was going on during HG Wells time) and the morale of the story was SEND INVESTIGATING PARTIES BEFORE SENDING BRITISH SOLDIERS!
So alright it is a case of 'did not do the research' on the Martians part, they were atleast clever enough to build vehicles that were sealed to the outside world.
Admittedly the ORIGINAL HG Wells Martians would get their backsides kicked by modern technology, a battery of Victorian era cannons successfully downed one, the HMS Thunderchild accounted for two (one by cannons and another by ramming) now compare that to a Main Battle Tank or Hind gunship. Though that is obviously the reason in any modern remake they come equipped with forcefields. Heck the whole thing was a Blitzkrieg if those Victorian armies had time to prepare THEY could have kicked the crap out of the Martians...
I would like to see a modern remake which completely turns the tide on the Martians, sure they've got their heat rays and black smoke but to come up against a modern army and summary get their ***** kicked into surrendering and do an 'after the failed invasion' style storyline set generations after where the Martians slowly intergrate into society.
The Signs Aliens were just...stupid...as someone mentioned upthread, they're drunken Fratboys on dares.
For those of us that find the whole 'Fate/Deity of your choice wills it to be so' kind of storyline EQUALLY as stupid then the Aliens add another whole pile of stupid ontop of that.
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In dear old badly dubbed Rita's defense...she IS 10,000 old...I mean she can probably barely work your basic laptop and the only decent bit of kit she has is a putty-to-life machine...if you've got a hammer...
Though I do remember one of the Sentai shows having the main villain take a day off to relax and the underling just spams monsters at the Sentai squad who very nearly get completely pwned due to only having to fight one monster every week...until the main villain comes back from his day off and slaps the underling, saying not to waste the monsters.
That did make me chuckle...
I contend that whatever civilization made This guy their ambassador to earth is the dumbest.
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I know! They can't even scroll down a thread to see if we already covered a joke!
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Oh, and out of curiosity, what makes you think I was joking? Our track record of all we've accomplished on this planet isn't that inspiring.
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Actually, the aliens waltzed outside their meteor "dropships" completely unprotected before they busted out the mechs. And of course EATING the local wildlife didn't help either.
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Originally Posted by Durakken
The War of the World aliens used ground based vehicles that were self contained and sealed off from the outside environment. They likely knew the atmosphere might be dangerous to us. The same as we know that going to another planet, any planet with life, would likely be dangerous to us... same as intercontinental travel is or was dangerous back a hundred years ago or so because of germs.
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Any alien that comes to Earth.
Surprised there are no comments on V.
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They didn't do anything stupid as a species. Diana's interspecies breeding that led to the discovery of the Red Death was a personal experiment. Her individual acts don't make the entire race stupid.
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Originally Posted by JohnX
Surprised there are no comments on V.
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I remember a short story I read in High School (a loooong time ago) where the first contact by an alien race was met with all the official hoopla with the government and then the visitors (who were very humanoid) roamed the city streets as tourists and promptly got fleeced by the most obvious of cons.
For you see, they weren't that bright. They had intergalactic space flight technology only because their civilization was very old and they slowly accrued information over the eons.
For a hilarious treatment of first contact with other species of varying intellect, I highly recommend Illegal Aliens by Phil Foglio and Nick Pollotta.
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Nobody wants to mention the dudes from Battlefield: Earth?
Also, the aliens in signs were obviously raiding for slaves. Signs is not the story of an alien invasion, it is the story of one family's unique experiences during an alien attack.
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The Aliens in Battlefield Earth weren't that dumb they managed to take over the Earth and build cities inspite not being able to breath the atmosphere this actually something scientists today are trying to achieve. L. Ron Hubbard just made the Humans too smart. The frigg'n learned the Alien tech and to fly Harrier Jump Jets in a week through simulators.
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Originally Posted by Blood Spectre
Nobody wants to mention the dudes from Battlefield: Earth?
Also, the aliens in signs were obviously raiding for slaves. Signs is not the story of an alien invasion, it is the story of one family's unique experiences during an alien attack. |
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Originally Posted by Thug_Two
That wasn't an invasion. That was a bunch of drunken alien fratboys trying to out-macho each other. ("I'll go fight the aliens made of death fluid!" "Oh yeah? *I'll* do it without weapons!" "Oh yeah? Well *I'll* do it without weapons and NAKED!")
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Originally Posted by BlackArachnia
The Martians from Mars Attacks! With music being your weakness, you think they would have noticed.
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Predators. Hmm humans have weapons that can hurt us now. Lets go see if I can dodge their automatic weapon as I try to slice them with my claws.
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Originally Posted by Veritech
of course, given how long they did manage to survive before they started dying, perhaps they WERE inoculated against most of earth's diseases, just not all of them. it only takes one germ to **** everything up. also, i give the martians in War of the Worlds a pass since it was written in 1898.
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I nominate the the Eye Creatures.
Apparently they hope to invade by scaring humans to death. In the dark. Because bright light kills them.
(And yes, I meant to use "the" twice.)