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Originally Posted by Cyber_naut
How hard is it to notice the survivability gains of 30% def?
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Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba
True. However, while I may be a complete aberration in many ways, how many high end scrappers don't respec fairly regularly? I can't respec Bill these days unless I buy a recipe off the market or a new freespec lands.
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Originally Posted by Deus_Otiosus
This entire post should receive some kind of award for being both hysterical and fantastic.
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I thought you kept access even after changign sides back when respecing
Oh well if not once that build is in place it will stay for a long time I plan to change sides with mt db/ela get my respec build done on my second build that is empty like I want everything come back hero side use the ulimited free respec to gut the guy on active build one switch two build two and farm for my build with other toons :]
I also plan to do this with my shield and go ball of lighting instead of fireball on his second build I started
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Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba
True. However, while I may be a complete aberration in many ways, how many high end scrappers don't respec fairly regularly? I can't respec Bill these days unless I buy a recipe off the market or a new freespec lands.
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The 3sec animation makes it a bit long to cast during a melee but, i see it as an "alpha eater" for any of my /dark characters. Usually i die in the first 10sec of a fight, if i don't, everything is dead 
So using that before jumping in could make a huge difference.
I'm pondering if it could even allow some AV soloing for whatever/dark. It makes me want to play some older characters again, too.
Now the question would be, what offensive set gets the most benefit out of it ? I'm thinking a set with a natural gap in the best attack chain, able to deal some high dps even with a 3sec "hole", while allowing for high recharge slotting to get the most uptime on Shadow meld, but which one ? 
For the alignement change, i don't see that as a big hurdle. 2 days to vigilante, 2 days to villain, then 4 days to come back. And the patron storyarc on a low setting can probably be rushed in a very short time. Looks totally worth it.
I will definitely be attaining this power once GR comes out. That reminds me I actually need to go buy GR lol. I'll use it on my Spines/Dark and see how he fairs but I have a feeling I might be stripping my Spines/Dark and relegating him to Went Worths duties.
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Originally Posted by Celidya
The 3sec animation makes it a bit long to cast during a melee but, i see it as an "alpha eater" for any of my /dark characters. Usually i die in the first 10sec of a fight, if i don't, everything is dead
So using that before jumping in could make a huge difference. I'm pondering if it could even allow some AV soloing for whatever/dark. It makes me want to play some older characters again, too. Now the question would be, what offensive set gets the most benefit out of it ? I'm thinking a set with a natural gap in the best attack chain, able to deal some high dps even with a 3sec "hole", while allowing for high recharge slotting to get the most uptime on Shadow meld, but which one ? For the alignement change, i don't see that as a big hurdle. 2 days to vigilante, 2 days to villain, then 4 days to come back. And the patron storyarc on a low setting can probably be rushed in a very short time. Looks totally worth it. |
I'm wondering what the fuss about Shadow Meld is when we get Water Spout, too. Stalker numbers currently are 1.17 seconds cast (didn't include Arcanatime) for 271.1 base damage. Slotted up we're getting 500 damage against AVs for a 1 second cast power.
Sure, the endurance drain is horrible, but we get Hibernate in the same pool to help in emergencies.
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Originally Posted by DSorrow
I'm wondering what the fuss about Shadow Meld is when we get Water Spout, too. Stalker numbers currently are 1.17 seconds cast (didn't include Arcanatime) for 271.1 base damage. Slotted up we're getting 500 damage against AVs for a 1 second cast power.
Sure, the endurance drain is horrible, but we get Hibernate in the same pool to help in emergencies. |
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Originally Posted by Hejtmane
Is the stalker damage tables for ranged and stuff the same as scrappers ?
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Originally Posted by Umbral
For ranged damage, no. Stalkers have a .6 range damage scalar while Scrappers have a .5 ranged damage scalar. Luckily, APP ranged and AoE attacks don't use the ranged damage scalar: they use the melee damage scalar (because otherwise there's no point to using those attacks in the least).
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Originally Posted by Umbral
For ranged damage, no. Stalkers have a .6 range damage scalar while Scrappers have a .5 ranged damage scalar. Luckily, APP ranged and AoE attacks don't use the ranged damage scalar: they use the melee damage scalar (because otherwise there's no point to using those attacks in the least).
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Originally Posted by DSorrow
I'm wondering what the fuss about Shadow Meld is when we get Water Spout, too.
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Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba
And stalkers still have crap aoe output and vastly lower HP. They can not leverage SM like scrappers can.
And while powers might be balanced around SOs, the devs are not in the habit of ignoring what's happening when IOs are in use and they will eventually nerf that which is providing too much benefit. |
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Originally Posted by Smiling_Joe
Let's see...
Knocks nearly all foes around repeatedly... check. High mag stun... check. Fair to good damage... check. Up almost every spawn with minimal IO investment... check. Yeah. Water Spout's the one I can't wait to get. You want to talk about one power making you immortal, talk about Water Spout. Entire spawns staggering around half dead ftw. Hell, toss out one aoe afterwords and move on. |
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Originally Posted by Smiling_Joe
Let's see...
Knocks nearly all foes around repeatedly... check. High mag stun... check. Fair to good damage... check. Up almost every spawn with minimal IO investment... check. Yeah. Water Spout's the one I can't wait to get. You want to talk about one power making you immortal, talk about Water Spout. Entire spawns staggering around half dead ftw. Hell, toss out one aoe afterwords and move on. |
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Originally Posted by Rieze
i look at it as our version dominator's perma dom, widow's perma mind link, troller's perma indom will. Normal recharge values gives decent performance with those powers. high recharge make those powers sick. I would totaly agree if shadow meld was layered with some res, regen, or even def debuff res.
I think +Def wont be enough in the upcomming game changes. I already had a bad run in with some Devouring Earth in a tip mission with my claw/SR brute. Having to pull just made me feel like a weakling. I kept checking to see if all my toggles were on. And have you tried the maria arc? Bosses and Lts with a power that contain all 3 leadership toggles is just wrong. Oh man oh man. How could I have forgotten all about that power? I gotta come up with a scrapper combo just for that power. Never hurts to have more. |
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Originally Posted by Cyber_naut
How hard is it to notice the survivability gains of 30% def?
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Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba
True. However, while I may be a complete aberration in many ways, how many high end scrappers don't respec fairly regularly? I can't respec Bill these days unless I buy a recipe off the market or a new freespec lands.
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Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba
True. However, while I may be a complete aberration in many ways, how many high end scrappers don't respec fairly regularly? I can't respec Bill these days unless I buy a recipe off the market or a new freespec lands.
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Originally Posted by BrandX
Last I knew, you kept access to the Patron Pools once you unlocked them. Even if you switch to Hero, you unlock them, then you get to always have access.
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Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba
True. However, while I may be a complete aberration in many ways, how many high end scrappers don't respec fairly regularly? I can't respec Bill these days unless I buy a recipe off the market or a new freespec lands.
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| Edit: Is this verified? Because it contradicts what the devs told us. They've been wrong before, though. |
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Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba
I'd also like verification.
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Thought you only get to keep them as long as you don't respec.
And all my top end scrappers are always hungry for a respec
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Originally Posted by UberGuy
Woah, really? Hell the round trip worth it to me if that's how it works.
Edit: Is this verified? Because it contradicts what the devs told us. They've been wrong before, though. |
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Originally Posted by Positron
Ancillary/Patron Powers: We’re going to make Ancillary powers universally chooseable upon the release of Issue 18 (i.e. this will be part of the free upgrade all players will get). The only restriction remains your archetype. No longer are you restricted by Hero or Villain alignment. Patron Powers, however, are only receivable upon completing a Patron story arc in Grandville at the appropriate level. Once you have selected your patron, you can choose a different patron upon a Respec. A character may NOT have both an Ancillary Power Pool and a Patron Power Pool on the same build, but may have a different one on a different build. In short: Villain AT's will have access to (new for Issue 18) Ancillary Power Pools at level 41 regardless of what alignment they are currently. All Villains can run the story arc for the Arachnos Patron of their choice to unlock the ability to choose those as well.
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Originally Posted by Positron
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Basically: The simplest form possible, while still requiring you to do the Patron Arc to unlock those Power Pools. |
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Originally Posted by Positron
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Also note that "Hero" and "Villain" in the above example is only the alignment they are at the time of that example. |