Scott Pilgrim vs The World....
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Acemace,
Posted on: 2010-08-12 14:03 in Comic and Hero-Villain Culture
The genres listed on the back of the book are Comedy/Action/Romance.
So the romance is definitely in there... But since the book focuses a lot more on the relationship than the movie, it's more fitting there.
I would probably call is just a comedy. I wouldn't ever think to classify it as action since most of the action is of a comedic nature.
I'd also just call Eternal Sunshine a drama.
Maybe I'm just trying to convince myself that two of my favorite movies, one recent and one all-time, aren't rom-coms. 
Thanks for eight fun years, Paragon.
I label Scott Pilgrim and Eternal Sunshine rom-coms because that is how I feel real rom-coms should be like. Setting aside the unconventional storytelling of both movies, romantic comedies should be more akin to SP and ES in terms of the actual plot (relationships are never easy) and tone (some grounding in the real world) as opposed to what is the usual rom-com starring Kate Hudson and Matthew McConashirtless in that it is joke-punchline, joke-punchline, awwwwww.
Wacky hijinks and a last minute reunion do not make good movies, nor good romantic movies with comedy bits.
"Ben is short for Frank."
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The score gets bonus points for including some of the dialogue in it.
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Originally Posted by ChrisMoses
The score is really good. I prefer it to the soundtrack.
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"Ben is short for Frank."
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Sure, Scott can take on Gideon Graves, but can he take on Agent Smith?
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Yeah, I've never liked awkward humor. Main reason I'm not a fan of the Situation Comedy either. I can do dark humor well enough, but whenever I hear a laugh track over someone's pain I change the channel.|
Originally Posted by BafflingBeerMan
Cera doesn't play the hipster. Maybe in Scott Pilgrim. He usually plays the awkward teen. That's why most people don't like him or his roles, the awkward humor that comes from his similar roles grates on people. I find that reaction to awkward humor is usually one of two ways: either you love/can stand the cringeworthiness or you hate being forced to cringe and you find that sorta humor terrible and painful to watch. And when comedy "hurts," it tends to sear a negative feeling into the opinion more so than just bad, lame humor.
Jason Schwartzman (Gideon) often plays a hipster, if you want to compare. |
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Originally Posted by BafflingBeerMan
Wacky hijinks and a last minute reunion do not make good movies, nor good romantic movies with comedy bits.
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...First soundtrack listed on the in post 119? I hate it. It gives me a headache. It makes me want to punch every single person involved in the movie, the game, a baby or two, EVERYTHING. I will punch the world and the world will break.
That which accompanies it is decent.
Dawncaller - The Circle of Dawn
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Sounds like somebody has had a rough time in Snowy Toronto!
Thanks for eight fun years, Paragon.
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I love The Office, but I think I've become a bit of a wimp in recent years because some of Michael Scott's newer cringeworthy efforts has actually got me changing the channel, it is so painful. This past season was the worse, with his breakup with a certain someone and his Scott's Tots.|
Originally Posted by LunarKnight
Yeah, I've never liked awkward humor. Main reason I'm not a fan of the Situation Comedy either. I can do dark humor well enough, but whenever I hear a laugh track over someone's pain I change the channel.
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On the other hand, I remember really liking and watching it without flinching the dinner party episode, which most people point out as the best/worst example of cringeworthy.
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Originally Posted by LunarKnight
Did you see that one where the couple gets together via an improbable lie, but then when the lie is revealed they break up, only to realize they care about each other more than the lie and get back together in act 3? I love that one.
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"Ben is short for Frank."
-Baffling Beer-Man, The Tenacious 3: The Movie
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Edgar Wright thinks Scott Pilgrim is The Last Airbender
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Originally Posted by Marcian Tobay
Sure, Scott can take on Gideon Graves, but can he take on Agent Smith?
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"Ben is short for Frank."
-Baffling Beer-Man, The Tenacious 3: The Movie
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I saw this at another forum I frequent, and while I disagree with it, it's funny.
Thanks for eight fun years, Paragon.
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I don't know how you disagree. It seems rather a statement of fact.|
Originally Posted by ChrisMoses
I saw this at another forum I frequent, and while I disagree with it, it's funny.
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And MAN does Michael Cera get a lot of sexy time!
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I'd argue that Knives isn't a hipster. She's a wannabe hipster!|
Originally Posted by Marcian Tobay
I don't know how you disagree. It seems rather a statement of fact.
And MAN does Michael Cera get a lot of sexy time! |
(After all, she didn't know that good music existed until two months ago)
"Ben is short for Frank."
-Baffling Beer-Man, The Tenacious 3: The Movie
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In case you missed it, Scott Pilgrim vs. The Animation
"Ben is short for Frank."
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Originally Posted by BafflingBeerMan
In case you missed it, Scott Pilgrim vs. The Animation
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You know, the point where that bit is put into the movie is sort of weird and I wonder how it came about. (I'm assuming this is the thing they showed on Adult Swim animating the River City Ransom scene in the comics?) In the movie Scott sarcastically tells the whole story to Romona and she brushes it off as him being a jerk.
I sort of wonder if they thought it would be a hilarious nod to the fans to have Ramona brush it off like that, while we all giggle secretly knowing that it really happened. If that's the case, I have to assume said decision was made before O'Malley decided to reveal in the last book that it didn't really happen that way. I had the strangest reaction to it in the theater, because it felt like an in joke that wasn't funny because it was true. Like a guy joking about his girlfriend cheating on him when you know she is, in fact, cheating on him.
As someone that didn't know anything but the movie, my reaction was "It might have happened, but whether it did isn't the point. The point is that he's making fun of her."
Don't know if that perspective helps with anything. (And I haven't seen The Animation yet)
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That's how I took it as well.
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Originally Posted by Marcian Tobay
As someone that didn't know anything but the movie, my reaction was "It might have happened, but whether it did isn't the point. The point is that he's making fun of her."
Don't know if that perspective helps with anything. (And I haven't seen The Animation yet) |
"Ben is short for Frank."
-Baffling Beer-Man, The Tenacious 3: The Movie
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Well......keep in mind Scott Pilgrim is a very Unreliable Narrator.
And read Volume 6 of Scott Pilgrim.
Current Published Arcs
#1 "Too Drunk to be Alcoholic" Arc #48942
#2 "To Slay Sleeping Dragons" Arc #111486
#3 "Stop Calling Me"
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I haven't read the books, but I'm fairly certain none of the movie happened. I don't think this took place in an alternate universe where it makes sense. I think this is how Scott sees things. Like, for example, Scott never fought Roxy Richter. More like he had a conversation with Ramona where she mentioned she's bi, and he felt it affront to his masculinity (Hence him refusing to hit "a soft girl" and her dying words being "You'll never make her feel this way".) She was a ninja because he didn't see the truth coming until the last second.|
Originally Posted by DLancer
Well......keep in mind Scott Pilgrim is a very Unreliable Narrator.
And read Volume 6 of Scott Pilgrim. |
That's how I took the majority of the movie. I read a bit o' Wikipedia regarding Kim Pine's story, and it seems to gel.
... Or am I stating the obvious?
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Hey, he didn't lose his virginity in Superbad. And me not hating Michael Cera probably has to do with me not seeing anything with him in it between Superbad and Scott Pilgrim.
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Originally Posted by ChrisMoses
I saw this at another forum I frequent, and while I disagree with it, it's funny.
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Branching Paragon Police Department Epic Archetype, please!
Not to mention that "loves girl who rebuffs him" is the most common plotline in movies.
*Spoilers for the books*
In volume 6 its revealed that A) Scott likes to blank out all the parts of his memory that makes him look bad and B) Gideon's been screwing with his memories on top of that. Scott's memory of saving Kim Pine from the other high school guy was spiced up by Gideon. In actuality Scott beat up a nerdy asian kid Kim was dating in order to date her. In fact most of his prior relationships have involved him being either thoughtless, clueless, or just a bit of a jerk, much more so than he realizes.
Current Published Arcs
#1 "Too Drunk to be Alcoholic" Arc #48942
#2 "To Slay Sleeping Dragons" Arc #111486
#3 "Stop Calling Me"
this stinks, i was going to see it today, and all the local theaters have already dropped it.
I had a feeling that would happen sooner or later.
Looks like it was 'sooner.'
Thanks for eight fun years, Paragon.
If you're explaining Scott Pilgrim to someone, what better explanation would you choose?