Scott Pilgrim vs The World....
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Posted on: 2010-08-12 14:03 in Comic and Hero-Villain Culture
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Originally Posted by TrueGentleman
I sense the propagation of a meme:
Scott Pilgrim vs. the Critics Scott Pilgrim vs. Itself Scott Pilgrim vs. the Unfortunate Tendency to Review the Audience |
The third is great.
Thanks for eight fun years, Paragon.
How dare people talk about a movie they like in a thread about the movie. I mean, what are those people thinking? 
Am I disappointed it didn't do better? Yes. I'm not exactly surprised it got third out of the big 3 opening this past weekend.
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Very mature. I'm simply saying that saying "see it because of x, y or z" to someone who dislikes the lead in the movie is pushing the bounds of common sense. They may see it eventually, but I can't see expecting them to pay for it. And, it may work on someone that actually knows you...but a random name from a message board carries a lot less weight.|
Originally Posted by ChrisMoses
Right on, feel free to ignore me. I'm not going to censor myself (well, I suppose I just did, because obscenities were the first words to enter my mind) about anything that pops into my head on an open forum, especially not on account of you.
This is the thread about Scott Pilgrim. If you don't want to hear about Scott Pilgrim, maybe you should clicked on some other thread? Or go fu.... Steady... |
It should be noted, I'm not one of those people. I have no problem with Cera, and was simply pointing out things I've heard from people who do dislike the roles he's played.
But, continuing to say, in essence, "well you should see it any way!" every time someone gives a reason they're not interested, imo, is actually working counter to your goal.
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That's not the intent of my post. I clarified that in my last post.
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Originally Posted by Amy_Amp
How dare people talk about a movie they like in a thread about the movie. I mean, what are those people thinking?
Am I disappointed it didn't do better? Yes. I'm not exactly surprised it got third out of the big 3 opening this past weekend. |
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The Awl's website has been irregular today. The article in question is a comparison of the comic and the film, rating how well the latter adapted the former.
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Originally Posted by ChrisMoses
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No. Saying "see it because of x, y or z" to someone who is withholding seeing an entire movie because they don't like an actor in it is hoping they can develop some common sense of their own. I'm hoping I can appeal to something else that they may want to see the film for.|
Originally Posted by Furio
Very mature. I'm simply saying that saying "see it because of x, y or z" to someone who dislikes the lead in the movie is pushing the bounds of common sense. They may see it eventually, but I can't see expecting them to pay for it. And, it may work on someone that actually knows you...but a random name from a message board carries a lot less weight.
It should be noted, I'm not one of those people. I have no problem with Cera, and was simply pointing out things I've heard from people who do dislike the roles he's played. But, continuing to say, in essence, "well you should see it any way!" every time someone gives a reason they're not interested, imo, is actually working counter to your goal. |
But, this is the Scott Pilgrim thread. No one has came in here pissing all over the movie - That was in the "Vs. Expendables" thread, so it's misplaced here.
People can see it if they want, or not if they don't. I'm stating reasons why anyone who has similar interests as I (and I assume you all do since we're all gathered on a very niche message board) would do well to give themselves a chance at seeing the film.
And I'm doing it in the SCOTT PILGRIM thread, where everyone frequently reading has either already seen it, is deciding whether they should see it, or is trolling. Which category are you, again?
Thanks for eight fun years, Paragon.
Who cares if the movie did badly? It doesn't need a sequel and, if it had a huge box office, would probably inspire a lot of similar-but-worse knock-offs. It got made and it was great.
Internet geeks were going to bash Michael Cera anyway, despite the fact that he played practically the opposite of George Michael, because they're just predictable that way. Let them miss out on a fun movie, who cares?
Yup. It's still going to come to DVD/Bluray and I'm going to buy it. It's targeted at a very specific crowd so not everyone is going to enjoy it. I thought it was about as good as I expected it to be, it made me laugh and giggle with nerdy glee.
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Originally Posted by TrueGentleman
The Awl's website has been irregular today. The article in question is a comparison of the comic and the film, rating how well the latter adapted the former.
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It linked to an article that was written just after Vol. 3 came out, which complained about the tone of that book when compared to the others. I wish I could followup on what the author thinks about that book in the entirety of the series; I think it's a bit much to expect the irreverence of the first two to carry through all six volumes.
Thanks for eight fun years, Paragon.
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Originally Posted by ChrisMoses
No. Saying "see it because of x, y or z" to someone who is withholding seeing an entire movie because they don't like an actor in it is hoping they can develop some common sense of their own. I'm hoping I can appeal to something else that they may want to see the film for.
But, this is the Scott Pilgrim thread. No one has came in here pissing all over the movie - That was in the "Vs. Expendables" thread, so it's misplaced here. People can see it if they want, or not if they don't. I'm stating reasons why anyone who has similar interests as I (and I assume you all do since we're all gathered on a very niche message board) would do well to give themselves a chance at seeing the film. And I'm doing it in the SCOTT PILGRIM thread, where everyone frequently reading has either already seen it, is deciding whether they should see it, or is trolling. Which category are you, again? |
I'm in the group you're trying to reach. Completely on the fence. Unfamiliar with the source material and no real opinion on Cera either way.
My responses in this thread to you were mainly to help you with your professed confusion that people on the same internet forum as you might have a different opinion on a particular subject. I'm just putting together what I've heard from people I know that dislike Cera, some responses from here, and summarizing them. Not my opinion, and that's the way I worded it. Your response to that? "nevermind the lead actor, see it because of supporting actor and theme!" That's akin to handing someone who hates coconut an Almond Joy and saying "enjoy the chocolate and almonds!"
And that's generally been the tone of your responses to anyone expressing a negative opinion, and in your zeal to defend your precious from all threats real and perceived, you're alienating the very people you're trying to reach. You're not gonna get the people who hate Cera. Give up on them. It's the people like me that you *could* have gotten. But much like Dalantia said in the other thread, you've instead pushed people away.
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Well, much like Amy Amp said in this thread (look, people agree with me too!) you "*could*" have shown that you were going to give the movie a chance of its own merits rather than hearsay, but you've chosen to do otherwise, and are now trying to stamp out positive criticisms for the movie in the one place where they should not be just expected but encouraged: The thread titled "Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World."|
Originally Posted by Furio
And that's generally been the tone of your responses to anyone expressing a negative opinion, and in your zeal to defend your precious from all threats real and perceived, you're alienating the very people you're trying to reach. You're not gonna get the people who hate Cera. Give up on them. It's the people like me that you *could* have gotten. But much like Dalantia said in the other thread, you've instead pushed people away.
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So see it if you want. My opinion and presentation of such should have no bearing on how you make your entertainment choices. I liked the books. I liked the video game. I liked the soundtrack. I liked the movie. I'm hardly an unbiased party.
But as long as it's okay with you, Furio, sir, I think I'll continue to discuss my opinions on a movie and property I enjoy with others of similar tastes, interests and opinions.
So, other people:
I'm taking a friend who has never read the book but played the PSN game with me from start-to-finish over two days to see the movie on Saturday. I'm considering whether I should try to re-read the six books between now and then, or wait until afterwards. They're still fresh enough in my mind that a re-reading isn't necessary, as I read them all again in June when Vol. 6 released in July, but I'm wondering if I'll pick up on anything else. I was already reminded how disappointed I was by the above article that the madness-inducing department store scene wasn't present.
Thanks for eight fun years, Paragon.
I like Michael Cera. It's kind of the same situation with Seth Rogen. They both tend to play the same types of characters, but they do it so well that I'm too busy being entertained to complain about that.
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Incorrect.I'm not trying to stamp out discussion in any way.I'll restate, again what my responses to to you were.
As one of those on the fence people, I'm simply telling you how those "see it anyway" replies come across. I've said nothing negative about either the movie, it's lead actor or the source material. I ve been reading and participating in the thread. It should be obvious that I'm interested in the topic...and given the fact I've said nothing negative about it, I don't see how you've come to the conclusion that I've decided against the movie....especially since I've yet to make any decision. You can continue to try to make me out to be some kind of bad guy, but I'm not sure what that accomplishes.
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Originally Posted by Furio
... I don't see how you've come to the conclusion that I've decided against the movie...
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Originally Posted by Furio
It's the people like me that you *could* have gotten.
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Thanks for eight fun years, Paragon.
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Oh I may still see the movie, my decisions on my entertainment spending have nothing to do with you, critics, the exchange rate of tea, etc etc. If I meant to say "me" in that line, I would have said that. I said "people like me" , the aformentioned group on the fence.
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Originally Posted by ChrisMoses
Implication that it's no longer an option, and so you have made your decision.
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So you're speaking for a hypothetical group of people, the people who I have turned off from the movie, to which you don't belong, but you could belong to... But you don't?
Look, FURIO, see the movie if you want. It's good.
Anyone bothering to follow along through this nonsense, the same applies to you. I think you'll like it. I'm biased. If you like comics and video games, there are elements in here specifically for you! Some people said anime, but I'm not the biggest anime fan, so if there were some elements drawing from that source, I missed them.
Michael Cera plays predominately outside of his comfort zone. I can't think of any other situations when he asked been asked to play as an action star (unless you count his Star Wars kid portrayal in Arrested Development 
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The movie is not without its faults, as I commented on around page 3, but they don't detract too heavily from the movie, which exudes a style and presentation unlinke any I have ever seen before.
Thanks for eight fun years, Paragon.
On a lighter note, I broke down and bought the first two volumes of the comic today.
Look forward to reading them, when I get the chance (which is to say, I have the chance NOW, but I don't know if I want to devour them that quickly).
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The movie's amazing. Better than people expect. The writing's much better than I was expecting. Judging by reactions, I suspect I'll be sorting this into my rant about people who assume a product has no story.
Loved it. Loved it loved it loved it.
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On a lighter note, I broke down and bought the first two volumes of the comic today.
Look forward to reading them, when I get the chance (which is to say, I have the chance NOW, but I don't know if I want to devour them that quickly). |
Let me know what ya think.
Thanks for eight fun years, Paragon.
Saw it.
Loved it.
Confused/Curious on two points made in the movie that might be present in the comic books (my theatre crowd enjoyed it too much and laughter cut out some dialogue)...
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a. Was the fact that Scott could never beat that White Ninja in the Ninja Ninja Revolution game a foreshadowing of his fight with Gideon? Or am i stretching it?
b. Someone said aloud walking out the theatre that something Scott did earlier actually created Nega-Scott, but i didnt pick it up and it was a surprise to me at the end. What did i miss?
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1. It was foreshadowing.
Especially his early line "I could never defeat it," which coupled with the revelation as to who Scott really should be fighting for, flips the movie around as more of a character study of Scott alone than Scott and Ramona.
2. No idea.
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It was enjoyable. Worth the seven bucks I paid to see it. I would reccomend others to go see it as well.
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O'Malley said this on his website:
"In theaters today in the U.S. and Canada. Please go see it. For money. I know you’ve got Sylvester Stallone on speed dial but he can wait. Scott Pilgrim needs you."
Doesn't that just make you feel like you should see it again?
Thanks for eight fun years, Paragon.
Saw it this evening. Loved it from the 8-bit midi Universal fanfare to the little Scott Pilgrim avatar punching out the "The End" at the end of the credits.
Ninja Ninja Revolution was brilliant. The fights were awesome, much better than some of the up close/quick edit fights from other movies. Ramona's and Roxy's fight was epic (loved Roxy's "Ivy" Sword/Whip/Belt and Ramona's hammer from hammerspace).
Now I have to read the comic.
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This is the thread about Scott Pilgrim. If you don't want to hear about Scott Pilgrim, maybe you should clicked on some other thread?
Or go fu.... Steady...
Thanks for eight fun years, Paragon.