Dual Blades, What AT?

Just curious if any of the melee AT's get more out of dual blades than the others. For example, Electric Melee is primo on stalkers since lightning rod doesn't break hide and assassin strike and auto-crits from placate/hide make up for the low single-target damage on other ATs.

Any similar advantage to one of the ATs with regard to dual blades? Any particular synergy with a secondary that performs better with a given AT?

Can't say for all but I absolutely love DB/SR on my scrapper. Using the sweep combo and the two other single attacks that do knockdown (can't remember names atm) makes my as of yet uncapped def scrapper alot more sturdy. Chew on a single purple insp and its downright obscene and I can't wait to get her capped without using those.

You're talking secondaries really. Though I tend to think of ATs as far as their role within the team. Anything you want works.

I know I've heard a few people complain that Dual Blades' combos make building fury feel a little weird on Brutes, but I've also seen people refute that. I have my own (non-mechanical) problems with DB/ on Brutes, so I don't have enough experience to really say.

I have tried Dual Blades quite a few times and could never stick with it, but for whatever reason it was using Tankers (I dont play villain side). On a Lark, I decided to try one more time with a scrapper this time, and what do you know, It was alot better.

Here is the reason why, I believe; Scrappers (obviously) do more damage so it just feels stronger than Tankers, who seem very anemic at lower levels with DB. I realize that DB gets better at higher levels, but Scrappers get their attacks sooner than Tankers and this REALLY helps DB mature faster.

This same thing happens in reverse on Tankers. I played Shield scrappers for almost 9 months and was frustrated with their performance, trying to get out of the lower end levels was brutal. I tried every combination I could stand and nearly gave up, until I tried a Shield Tanker. That extra boost of Defense, HPs, and getting the Defenses MUCH sooner, was all it took to make Shields work well at the lower end.

Bottom line; At level 50 it really doesnt matter, but throughout the early game take the AT that will mature faster in the area you need most.

DB relies on Blinding Feint stacking to get as much damage as possible. Scrappers get higher damage mods (and, unlike Brutes, aren't balanced around Fury) so get more out of it. By my own calculations and experience I need 90% Fury on a DB brute just to break even with a DB scrapper. For reference, the brute/scrapper balance is usually something akin to ~70% Fury to break even with scrappers. Although it's not a major concern, the animations aren't especially fast and Fury building isn't so hot, at least for me.

For these reasons, I think DB works better on scrappers ; it's not an enormous difference and you might never see it unless actively looking for it, but it's there.

Well, if I remember Bill Z Bubba's thread in the Scrapper Forums, Scrappers had the better DPS with Dual Blades.

Personally I skip the 1st two combos, they suck no matter how you look at it.

I love Dual Blades! On Scrappers (and probably Brutes if I cared for Brutes).

Tanks force you into Combo's that most already say you should respec out of. Which may not be so bad, but builds are tight!

I absolutely HATE HATE HATE Dual Blades on Stalkers. I hate how the combos are done on the Stalker version. Which may not be that bad deal, but Dual Blades is more of a DPS set, and what makes Dual Blades a DPS set is Blinding Feint, which obviously Stalkers don't have.

Then add in, it lacks Typhoons Edge, which looks so much better than 1k Cuts.

So in general...I'd say go Scrapper or Brute, take the attacks for Attack Vitals for sure, and MAYBE SWEEP if you want that one two...it's more than enough attacks, and those two combos are more worth while in every way than the first two combos.

Thanks all, looking like a scrapper. I might try invuln since I've never done one on any AT. Not sure.

I'm happy with DB/Willpower. I did skip Power Slice, don't really use Nimble Slash, and am built entirely around recharge, accuracy, and an attack chain of Blinding Feint -> Sweeping Strike -> 1000 Cuts or BF -> Attack Vitals combo. Willpower's extra recovery power lets me keep doing this pretty much as long as there are mobs willing to step up to the chopping block, and the extra regen seems to keep me alive pretty well.

I've got a DB/DA scrapper as well, but so far I'm not convinced that pairing is worth it, as much as I like Dark Armor. DB needs to shred, and DA seems like more of a control/stall set.

I think DB is best on scrappers and tanks. Stalkers don't always cycle through all of the attacks needed to complete combos. Brutes suffer with the combos as they can potentially mash up fury generation.

I like /db on tanks because unlike most tank secondaries, DB is fast. Most tank secondaries have kind of a ponderous feel to them, at least until you get some global recharge going, and even then they tend to have longer animation times. DB does not suffer from that.

The speed of the set does lend itself to higher EPS, despite the lower end costs of the individual powers. I'd recommend pairing it with one of the sets that provides for END recovery early on.

The problem with DB on tanks is that there's no powers you can really skip. On a scrapper, you don't need NS or Confront. On a tank, you're forced to take the former, and the latter is replaced by taunt which is rather obviously a pretty useful power.

So I'll throw in another vote for the DB/SR scrapper. Thematicly matching and great fun

I thoroughly enjoy it on my Inv/DB tanker, not so much on my DB/Nin stalker. The abundance of AoE makes for excellent aggro handling.

db/dark or db/fire scrapper. i have a db/dark and it seemed to do ok both solo and teaming. and you really only need 5 of the powers from dark so it definately leaves room open for other powers.

loved my DB/SR Brute till she was overshadowed by my up and coming BS/SD Scrapper >.> damn you delicious Shield Charge!

I've really enjoyed my DB/WP scrapper. DB is a really good PvE set, with a strong amount of AoE. The combos take some getting used to, but by your mid-20s really come into their own. By the way, don't ignore the Sweep combo just because it's DPS is lower than that of Attack Vitals. While it doesn't do the heavier damage, it's great damage mitigation and crowd control. You knock everyone in melee with you on their butts, buying you at least a tick or two of regen. Combined with Rise to the Challenge, you can regain a fair amount of HP in the middle of a fight this way.

I'm playing a DB/Nin stalker and i absolutly love destroying enemies i haven't ran into AV's but i've been able to take everything else out :-D