I was promised Fish Heads!

I can understand frusteration at the set itself not feeling complete. Just finally got irked enough to defend this cool looking pack from those complaining about not getting all the extras they wanted.

I agree that not all packs came with full sets. The Cyborg back never came with a chest, and that was just ONE set. On the other hand, it came with a hat, an eye detail a mouth detail, three sets of shoulders, two sets of chest details and a full set with everything else but face and a chest.

The Mutant Pack comes with... About a set and a half, but lacks any chest piece, any mouth detail, any hair/hat/helmet detail, any belt and... Well, the things you'd have really expected, which were Monster Heads and Monster feet. Again, I'm not boiling my top because I didn't get what I wanted, so much as because... I don't get it. We had plenty of all of the stuff we got, and we got pretty much more of the same. What we DIDN'T have and what I thought the pack would be adding to... We didn't get, and by the looks of things, we won't get.

I guess my expectations were running along a train of thought that was completely backwards. I thought they'd start with "something monstrous and inhuman" and work back from there, but apparently they started with "something pretty much human but with stuff" and worked forward from that. So instead of getting something truly weird that kind of looked human, with monstrous heads and legs and arms, we got something that looks mostly human, with high heels, boob holes and pretty faces.

Not AT ALL what I was expecting.

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

That you can only come up with two examples is more damning to your argument than it is theirs.

I've seen this comment from different people in this thread and it doesn't make any sense.

So you're saying that if the set had been indeed an animal parts set that everyone who was happy about that would've been in the wrong too?

They would've been happy I didn't get something I wanted, because they would've gotten something they wanted instead.

Personally, the last thing I wanted to be in the mutant pack are various animal parts, they don't appeal to me at all. I'm a lot happier with this.

Came for this, Leaving Satisfied

Because the game is basically a Super Hero Emulator. People want to make characters at least similar to comic book ones and by their rules.

P.S. Just if you didn't notice, I do really like this booster pack items, they just don't seem to run with the iconic nature of the game for comic heroes in my opinion. They do look beutiful, and I plan I buying it ASAP, and integrating it into a number of my current heroes.

I know of others, these are just the two most iconic I can think of. So please don't twist my words... I honestly wanted to know if there were a more a iconic mutant portrayed in super heroes.

Then I invite you to consider the distinction between "I'm glad X was included" and "I'm glad Y was not included." Perhaps some of the people currently unsatisfied with what is included would have been happy if what is currently included was not, but if they had expressed that enjoyment in that fashion I would have likewise considered it a strikingly ungenerous sentiment. And I'm reasonably certain that if the pack had included both what is there and animal elements, the people expressing relief that the animal elements are not present would not be expressing joy that there was something for everyone.

But more simply: if you like what is in the mutant pack, say that. If you talk about what is not in the pack, it tends to suggest that you are doing so for a reason.

Full disclosure: I like what's in the pack, and will be buying it. I would have liked it even more if it contained more things, including animal elements. I'm holding out hope that animal elements will be included in a later pack, or as part of a free update.

your logic is a little strange there. you have not specified what you wanted at all, they did, you expressed your happiness at their disappointment, that is the part people are objecting to.

by definition everything added is done so at the exclusion of everything else, my happiness at the martial arts themed parts in the natural pack was not the same as me saying i was happy that people didnt get military or police themed parts. I would have come across as a complete unremitting bell-end to have done so. Had street simply said that he was happy that the pack included more subdued mutations, then nobody would be saying anything, but his joy at the pack NOT being something else is where he(and those supporting his post) comes across as being hostile, particularly tokyo who has a long history of trolling these threads.

becausereally mutants arent much of a concept, it is a slight variation in genetic makeup, generally mundane and usually only being even visable after hundreds of thousands of generations and aggregating with other mutations. magic benefits from cultural cues attached to magical beings, science and tech benefit from existing technology and science informing the looks, natural is pretty much just natural, but the word mutant means nothing froma comic standpoint. most of the x-men mutants look like normal humans, hell, most of them look like really attractive normal humans. morlocks generally look like lumpy humans, the concept is kind of dull when taken within any degree of what the word actually means, so people tend to go for the radical interpretations of it, which in turn can tread on the toes of "science"origin characters. it really is mostly an origin cluster-duck. and the origin system has pretty much vestigial since they introduced the archetype system back in beta.

I can see your point, as mutants as I have seen them, are ether born with their powers/physiology, or are made that way through science, ala mutagen chemical. The later could technically be both mutant and science, but by the listed definition of the origins in the game mutagen characters are actually science, as they have been mutated, not mutants.

The iconic nature is ridiculously subjective though, so no, there isn't a more definitive example. Personally whenever someone says mutant I end up thinking of any X-Men member, not just the really freaky looking ones.

There's a difference between phrasing your satisfaction as being glad YOU got something and being glad I DIDN'T get something. You chose the latter, which bugs me more than most things. Any time someone comes out and tries to tell me what SHOULDN'T be in the game for reasons of "because I say so" irks me like you couldn't believe.

Different people like different things. I get that. I can work with that. As long as we're all sticking to our guns and pushing for our desires, then everything is cool. It's when you cross the line and start trying to undermine my desire as a roundabout way of getting yours that I take slight.

By all means, be happy with what you got. But try not to laugh out loud that other people didn't get their wishes.

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

We can do all the X-men reasonably well except for the freaky looking ones. Hell the claw power was originally nothing but wolverine claws! So that just leaves the monsterous part.

And Monstrous is a far broader theme than you're making it out to be.

I'm glad that there weren't any animal parts in the set.

There I said it. Why? Because they would've been of no use to me whatsoever. That's all there is to it. No hidden agenda, no secret repressed furry hate.
I'm just happy they spent time working in things that I'll actually use. I honestly don't have a single current or future character concept that would require animal parts of any kind, just not my thing.

Would I have been unhappy if the pack had been about animal parts? No, I wouldn't have been. Like aparently a lot of others I actually was expecting it to be about just that. And though I probably wouldn't have bought it, I wouldn't have spoken out about it either.

Now that it has been revealed though, I'm actually happy that it is what it is instead of animal parts.

I really don't see how that sentiment is unfair or ungenerous or whatever.

I knew someone would bring that up.

It's an old name that I used to use.

Let me ask you this - why not say you're glad the pack had what it had, rather than that it DIDN'T have what people were expecting? It's the same thing, but with much more generous phrasing.

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

Indeed it's the same thing. So what difference does it make?

That's my whole point.

Consider this - people were expecting something, and indeed looking forward to something, that didn't materialise. They express their disappointment at not getting what they wanted, and are met with "Well, I'm glad you didn't get it." How do you think that makes me feel?

Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

Because, bluntly, it makes you sound like a bit less of a [Insult general dispariging comment here]

Saying "Im glad you didnt what you were after (and frankly promised)" makes other people want to tell you to kindly go to hell.

Originally Posted by Zwillinger GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.

Originally Posted by Captain_Photon NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

Oversensitive? I'm still thinking yuo all are blowing things way out of proportention and are just looking for things to get offended by.

You express your opinion, I express mine, it just happens to be the complete opposite. That is in no way intended to be insulting or whateveer, if you experience it that way then the problem lies with you, not me.