Can We Please Get an Epic Boss/AV Warning on Ouroborus Missions?
A brief aside: the term is "Elite Boss."
A warning for Ouroboros arcs containing Elite Bosses would not go amiss, and would be consistent with warnings attached to other potentially unsoloable content.
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Which elite boss was it?
I'm just curious but which powersets are you running? Which Elite Boss was it? What are your difficulty settings? Did you consider using Inspirations or Temp powers?
Because from my understanding Elite Bosses for the most part are soloable.
EDIT: forgot to chime in on the idea,
I have no problems with Ouro Arcs containing a warning about Elite Bosses.
Akarist is very hard to solo with my emp/psi defender just because his resistances are so high and her damage output is so low. Nosferatu is a very hard elite boss to solo for almost every AT. There are a couple of others that are very hard to solo for specific archetypes as well, but for the most part with the use of inspirations, just about any AT should be able to solo the generic elite boss.
/Unsigned. Team oriented toons should team. If you want to solo evey story arc build a solo toon.
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Personally I tend to check the wiki before doing a flashback so I know what I'll encounter but a warning would not be out of placed.
/Unsigned. Team oriented toons should team. If you want to solo evey story arc build a solo toon.
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He doesn't want to solo every story arc, just a warning in place to inform soloist of something that they might not be able to complete so that it can at least be avoided. I'll leave discussing the merits of controllers as solo toons to someone else.
So after the ambush, load up on inspirations and take him down. If you never lost a fight, it wouldn't be much of a game. And trollers have a lot of tricks. Adjust your strategy and try again.
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I'm on board for such warnings. Not everyone wants to have the wiki open and research the arc they are about to do, sort of takes a lot of the fun out of discovering the story.
That said, if you encounter that issue in the future you can log out, change the difficulty setting and then reenter the mission and it will reflect the new difficulty settings. Obviously you have to redo that particular mission, but you don't have to abandon the arc or start the whole thing over. Once you complete that difficult encounter you can set the difficulty again prior to entering the next mission and it will again change.
I ran into a similar issue on my Fire/Storm Controller recently on one of these. She's a monster at her natural 43, but stuck in the mid-20s she didn't have much damage. No problem most of the time, but then I hit that mission that requires the destruction of that meteor in Atlas. The meteor has very nice hp regen, not AV level but it was way over standard-enemy level, and my Hot Feet wasn't hitting it AT ALL. I was throwing mostly vet powers at it, as the only other source of damage I had was Char, i.e. not much. The friend you get in that mission was bugged, I assumed, as he did nothing but stand there unconcerned. Essentially, I couldn't outrun its Regen. Thankfully I had the Warwolf Whistle, and he finally managed to Hurl it to death (as even he couldn't manage to get into melee).
I bugged the behavior of what's-his-name, I'm pretty sure he's supposed to help you out. But yeah, kinda stuck there.
I ran into a similar issue on my Fire/Storm Controller recently on one of these. She's a monster at her natural 43, but stuck in the mid-20s she didn't have much damage. No problem most of the time, but then I hit that mission that requires the destruction of that meteor in Atlas. The meteor has very nice hp regen, not AV level but it was way over standard-enemy level, and my Hot Feet wasn't hitting it AT ALL. I was throwing mostly vet powers at it, as the only other source of damage I had was Char, i.e. not much. The friend you get in that mission was bugged, I assumed, as he did nothing but stand there unconcerned. Essentially, I couldn't outrun its Regen. Thankfully I had the Warwolf Whistle, and he finally managed to Hurl it to death (as even he couldn't manage to get into melee).
I bugged the behavior of what's-his-name, I'm pretty sure he's supposed to help you out. But yeah, kinda stuck there. |
Signed on a warning for the presence of elite bosses.
You're completely screwed by a brick wall of difficulty. The fight isn't just frustrating, it's designed to be impossible (for you). You can't invite any new teammates. You can't really do *anything* except abandon the arc,
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Nosferatu is a very hard elite boss to solo for almost every AT.
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And that pretty much sums it up.
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I'm on board for such warnings. Not everyone wants to have the wiki open and research the arc they are about to do, sort of takes a lot of the fun out of discovering the story.
That said, if you encounter that issue in the future you can log out, change the difficulty setting and then reenter the mission and it will reflect the new difficulty settings. Obviously you have to redo that particular mission, but you don't have to abandon the arc or start the whole thing over. Once you complete that difficult encounter you can set the difficulty again prior to entering the next mission and it will again change.
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So after the ambush, load up on inspirations and take him down. If you never lost a fight, it wouldn't be much of a game. And trollers have a lot of tricks. Adjust your strategy and try again. |
I wonder whatever happened to him?
P.S. I had already tried running out of the mission thing. He stayed in ambush mode. Unlike a typical epic boss he could not be slept. He may have had some kind of tank armor because no controls did anything. He chased me shooting Power Bolts that kept me on my back. I have exactly zero desire to try to solo through that. In a normal mission I'd say screw it and abandon. Luckily this was only three missions into an arc. Had I known the mission difficulty was going to ramp from leisurely to Jedi trial I wouldn't have attempted it. Some people may find that fun but those people also spend a lot more time *preparing* for such an encounter. Please see above for the suggestion that I just "bring a Shivan."
Anyway I'm much less concerned about the specifics of this particular fight than with the fact that epic bosses are frustrating and I have no way to recruit additional team members once I've encountered them. If I knew ahead of time I'd be happy to form a team.
I'm on board for such warnings. Not everyone wants to have the wiki open and research the arc they are about to do, sort of takes a lot of the fun out of discovering the story.
That said, if you encounter that issue in the future you can log out, change the difficulty setting and then reenter the mission and it will reflect the new difficulty settings. Obviously you have to redo that particular mission, but you don't have to abandon the arc or start the whole thing over. Once you complete that difficult encounter you can set the difficulty again prior to entering the next mission and it will again change. |
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I'm on board for such warnings. Not everyone wants to have the wiki open and research the arc they are about to do, sort of takes a lot of the fun out of discovering the story.
That said, if you encounter that issue in the future you can log out, change the difficulty setting and then reenter the mission and it will reflect the new difficulty settings. Obviously you have to redo that particular mission, but you don't have to abandon the arc or start the whole thing over. Once you complete that difficult encounter you can set the difficulty again prior to entering the next mission and it will again change.
There was this guy named Jack once who said the same thing.
I wonder whatever happened to him? |
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P.S. I had already tried running out of the mission thing. He stayed in ambush mode. Unlike a typical epic boss he could not be slept. He may have had some kind of tank armor because no controls did anything. He chased me shooting Power Bolts that kept me on my back. I have exactly zero desire to try to solo through that. In a normal mission I'd say screw it and abandon. Luckily this was only three missions into an arc. Had I known the mission difficulty was going to ramp from leisurely to Jedi trial I wouldn't have attempted it. Some people may find that fun but those people also spend a lot more time *preparing* for such an encounter. Please see above for the suggestion that I just "bring a Shivan." |
So until you give up more details, I'm calling Shenanigan.
Anyway I'm much less concerned about the specifics of this particular fight than with the fact that epic bosses are frustrating and I have no way to recruit additional team members once I've encountered them. If I knew ahead of time I'd be happy to form a team. |
Getting a whole set of shivans is the work of half an hour tops. One full set of them will help on several encounters. You insist that you want to be able to solo everything, but the single most powerful tool in the game for doing just that is something you scoff at.
Adjust your strategy and try again (and this time I'm not talking about any in-game encounters).
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Sorry for the TRIPLE post lol. that's a first. The router was behaving strangely.
And yes you can change the difficulty before or after logging in/out as long as it is set before you start a fresh map it should take.
So I have to tell you why I kind of get frustrated with Ouroborus. It goes something like this:
You are a lowly Controller or Defender making your way through a series of Ouro missions. It's slow going but you weren't built for speed or high kill rate anyway.
You're thirty minutes or an hour in and things seem to be going well. Then, it happens. Out of nowhere an epic boss shows up, and its the end of the road. You're completely screwed by a brick wall of difficulty. The fight isn't just frustrating, it's designed to be impossible (for you). You can't invite any new teammates. You can't really do *anything* except abandon the arc, and next time wise up to the fact that you have to research any missions online before accepting them, because the mission arc is, frankly, unwinnable, but it won't reveal this to you until the very end.
As I'm writing this I've just been killed in a mission where my Mind troller, who incidentally is actually lvl 50 and very well IO'd but by no means capable of soloing an epic boss, was forced to deal with an *ambush* from an epic boss who is immune to hold, sleep, confusion, fear, and knockdown, who fires energy blasts and has a spin kick power that takes away half my lifebar in one move and also stuns me. Now I'm not saying such missions shouldn't exist. I just want fair warning like we get in the AE so I don't waste my time even attempting something like this. It would be one thing if it were a normal mission where I could recruit a team, but now I'm just stuck, and a bit annoyed.
Thanks for your time.