Advice for a new younger player wanting to try more PvP
By
Chinook,
Posted on: 2010-05-15 08:24 in Everything about PvP
Have a VERY thick skin.
Don't be discouraged with criticism.
Most of all, have fun with it and learn.
figure out who hot heals is and make him into your role model.
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psi son or fire /em blasters on blue side. Doms try fire/ grav/ mind/ /ea /elec or /fire. Work on getting the accolades, in particular +hp and geas/fon and demonic/magus. Make sure the kb protection is solid (41 with acro). ss/sj are the best movement for pvp, and are both pretty much needed. Don't all into the bcast drama some players bring about >.>.
Avoid doing melee toons as much as possible until you have a good grasp on movement.
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and don't listen to any advice from dahjee. It will be bad and wrong and he will want your son to roll something that will just be horribad, causing your son to more than likely never want to PvP again.
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There are several AT's/Builds that are playable in PvP.
Apart from various build advice, for a younger player, I'd focus more on the
mindset than the build. In that regard, I'd off these ideas:
1> Talking Smack: Don't start it, and don't get involved with it. Yep, some
folks make it a part of their playstyle, and some of it can actually be fun, but
typically, it's just detrimental, and I'd recommend staying out of it - especially
for a new pvp'er.
2> Don't sweat kills or deaths. Both will occur with some level of regularity - it's
part of "paying the dues" - There's always some measure of Rock, Paper, Scissors,
and in zones - it's rare to have "even" fights... When "sharks" (Hero and Villain
alike) smell blood - they'll swarm for the kill... Don't let that bug you.
3> Have Fun and Learn... PvP is completely unrelated to PvE - next to nothing
a player learns in PvE matters at all in PvP. The key is to have fun getting
involved in the kills and battles, don't sweat the deaths, and learn the kinds
of things that work well, and the kind that don't. Keep in mind that there are
few (if any) "rules" - Anything you hear to the contrary is wishful thinking.
4> As part of the play - keep an eye on the guys that do well, and try to
emulate those tactical concepts with your own toon where applicable.
GL to the youngster, and Have Fun... 
Regards,
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One quick question; what server are you on?|
Originally Posted by Chinook
Any advice would be appreciated.
I play CoX with my son and have almost since launch. At 14 now, he wants more PvP I enjoy PvP, but I've never put the time or effort into CoX PvP in order to really know what to play or how to build so I'm not sure how to advise him. He only has a couple of 50s, a Elec/Elec Blaster and a Necro/Pain MM. Can anyone suggest some basic PvP builds, pool choices, what should he be looking to get out of slotting etc.? |
your son's MM is a good start for PvP, it's sturdy in body guard mode and it can provide decent support provided that you stay near him. I recomend making a bind for BG mode if he decides to play that toon. A good complememt to the MM is either a corr (therm or rad) or a dom.
On hero side i suggest rolling the classic blaster empathy combo, where blaster is fire, sonic, rad, or psy with either em or dev and the emp with all necissary buffs and heals along with a good hold in his attack. Also make sure to get phase shift and or hibernate for your pvp toons, it will come in handy. k GLHF.
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Originally Posted by Psyrene
and don't listen to any advice from dahjee. It will be bad and wrong and he will want your son to roll something that will just be horribad, causing your son to more than likely never want to PvP again.
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but his sonic/sonic defender is so leet
Positron's i13 letter: We are trying to make PvP more accessible to new players, while giving experienced PvP'ers the advantage that comes with formulating tactics around the new systems we're putting in place. PvP from now on will be on our priority list. If something isn't working out, we'll be in there tweaking it and making it work, for the entire future of the product, not just Issue 13.
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Eh. He could improve it by getting tp/tp foe though.
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Originally Posted by PC_guy
but his sonic/sonic defender is so leet
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Originally Posted by TamakiRevolution
Eh. He could improve it by getting tp/tp foe though.
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My advice is get your son off video games and into sports or more family activities that don't involve a computer.
Disclaimer: ^^^^^ is my opinion and in no way an insult to your parenting.
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Oh come on, too easy... Captain Jack Sparrow, Pirates of the Caribbean
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I disagree... while actual physical activities are important, I think that PvP in an MMO is a GOOD thing for kids today(minus the smack talk and other nonsense) because unlike a lot of activities today, there is no "everyone is special and everyone wins". They get to play and lose and learn from that... that is a healthy thing as well.
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Originally Posted by DitzyBlonde
My advice is get your son off video games and into sports or more family activities that don't involve a computer.
Disclaimer: ^^^^^ is my opinion and in no way an insult to your parenting. |
"Life is what happens when you are making other plans"
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Virtue is where he and and I are most of the time.
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Originally Posted by Neeto
One quick question; what server are you on?
your son's MM is a good start for PvP, it's sturdy in body guard mode and it can provide decent support provided that you stay near him. I recomend making a bind for BG mode if he decides to play that toon. A good complememt to the MM is either a corr (therm or rad) or a dom. On hero side i suggest rolling the classic blaster empathy combo, where blaster is fire, sonic, rad, or psy with either em or dev and the emp with all necissary buffs and heals along with a good hold in his attack. Also make sure to get phase shift and or hibernate for your pvp toons, it will come in handy. k GLHF. |
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I appreciate the advice, but I'm not a noob to PvP, just CoX PvP |
Originally Posted by FourSpeed
There are several AT's/Builds that are playable in PvP.
Apart from various build advice, for a younger player, I'd focus more on the mindset than the build. In that regard, I'd off these ideas: 1> Talking Smack: Don't start it, and don't get involved with it. Yep, some folks make it a part of their playstyle, and some of it can actually be fun, but typically, it's just detrimental, and I'd recommend staying out of it - especially for a new pvp'er. 2> Don't sweat kills or deaths. Both will occur with some level of regularity - it's part of "paying the dues" - There's always some measure of Rock, Paper, Scissors, and in zones - it's rare to have "even" fights... When "sharks" (Hero and Villain alike) smell blood - they'll swarm for the kill... Don't let that bug you. 3> Have Fun and Learn... PvP is completely unrelated to PvE - next to nothing a player learns in PvE matters at all in PvP. The key is to have fun getting involved in the kills and battles, don't sweat the deaths, and learn the kinds of things that work well, and the kind that don't. Keep in mind that there are few (if any) "rules" - Anything you hear to the contrary is wishful thinking. 4> As part of the play - keep an eye on the guys that do well, and try to emulate those tactical concepts with your own toon where applicable. GL to the youngster, and Have Fun... Regards, 4 |
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That is bizzare advice.|
Originally Posted by DitzyBlonde
My advice is get your son off video games and into sports or more family activities that don't involve a computer.
Disclaimer: ^^^^^ is my opinion and in no way an insult to your parenting. |
Especially unsolicited.
We've both been involved in Scouting for 7 years now and go wilderness camping almost monthly.
He's played Soccer and Baseball for 4 years and wants to try out for football this year.
We fish all year around including ice fishing when we can make it out.
We both recently signed up for an Okinawan style of Karate training.
I golf and he's bugging for lessons this summer and to come out and join me.
I think that might be enough non-computer activites for a while.
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Eh, you have to factor in the bourbon.
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Originally Posted by Chinook
That is bizzare advice.
Especially unsolicited. |
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definitely beats TV.
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Originally Posted by Fomsie
I disagree... while actual physical activities are important, I think that PvP in an MMO is a GOOD thing for kids today(minus the smack talk and other nonsense) because unlike a lot of activities today, there is no "everyone is special and everyone wins". They get to play and lose and learn from that... that is a healthy thing as well.
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I hear there's alot of fight clubbers there so try to develope a strategy that can take out meleers fast. damage dealer and a debuffer usually works. for example a therm/rad/cold corr and a stalker/dom/ or another corr, poison MM + corr/brute, psy blaster + rad/therm/cold defender or troller.
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Originally Posted by Chinook
Virtue is where he and and I are most of the time.
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2-3 colds in zone.|
Originally Posted by Neeto
I hear there's alot of fight clubbers there so try to develope a strategy that can take out meleers fast. damage dealer and a debuffer usually works. for example a therm/rad/cold corr and a stalker/dom/ or another corr, poison MM + corr/brute, psy blaster + rad/therm/cold defender or troller.
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i remember haunt (rad/cold) and i (fire/cold) switching to cold corrs when the retardo scrapperfests happened in freedom... basically ended it really quick if someone was healing or if we both had trayfulls of green..
Dumb question, but other than the heavy -res ice has, anything else worth noting in the set? Ive been thinking about an /ice corr for a while, its been either a tossup between that and a /rad for my next one.
Any advice would be appreciated.
I play CoX with my son and have almost since launch.
At 14 now, he wants more PvP
I enjoy PvP, but I've never put the time or effort into CoX PvP in order to really know what to play or how to build so I'm not sure how to advise him.
He only has a couple of 50s, a Elec/Elec Blaster and a Necro/Pain MM.
Can anyone suggest some basic PvP builds, pool choices, what should he be looking to get out of slotting etc.?