Gladiator's Armor: +Def to all for sale
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Posted on: 2010-05-04 07:08 in The Market and Inventions
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Originally Posted by Its_Me_Matt
Some people don't use set bonuses, some people can't even afford them due to limited playing. SOs are cheaper. My uncles Willpower/fire scrapper can tank better than my willpower/fire tanker. He's SO'd, I'm fully IOS out. With all those neat procs and purples.
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Please re-read the bolded part and tell me how that makes sense.
I believe we had a lost in translation, frankensloting set IO's for greater performance at an equal or lower cost to SO's. I was not refering to standard IO's.
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Since the thread has been solved, and congratulations by the way, I just want to interject and make a final comment: Whilst I made the argument leaving them on is dear and I mean that loosely, it was more the principle of leaving them on that actually bothered me. |
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You know, leaving it on 24/7 for an item in a virtual game, it's worse than RMT purchasing..
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Someone leaving their computer on to farm for IOs which are otherwise realistically unobtainable is worse than botting and sweatshops to sell ingame items for real world currency...how?
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Actually, considering it uses energy, it would be, except that the RMTers use even more.
I've got 2 more of these to sell. Neonman, what is your global?
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Wait, what? I wasn't talking about set bonuses, that was the entire point of my post. I think something got lost in translation here, I wasn't trying to insult anyone or anything. Just putting some info out there in case you weren't aware of it.|
Originally Posted by Its_Me_Matt
Some people don't use set bonuses, some people can't even afford them due to limited playing. SOs are cheaper. My uncles Willpower/fire scrapper can tank better than my willpower/fire tanker. He's SO'd, I'm fully IOS out. With all those neat procs and purples.
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And I didn't give you any rep, negative or otherwise. If you got negative rep, it wasn't from me. Besides, since my rep is turned off any rep I left someone would show up as neutral, not negative or positive, no matter which type I left. I think the rep system is silly, and I don't really use it anyway.
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Because in my opinion the fact it is assumed unobtainable doesn't really necessitate leaving on a computer every night, to get one measly IO. In fact I find it awfully saddening if someone does take that approach. I may have exaggerated that in comparison to RMT buying, but it's up there. |
Originally Posted by Silas
Someone leaving their computer on to farm for IOs which are otherwise realistically unobtainable is worse than botting and sweatshops to sell ingame items for real world currency...how?
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Silas, I must point out I have no vindictiveness towards anyone who does carry it out, I simply believe the principle in doing said action is rather peculiar, in defence of offending anyone who does. I just don't see the real-side point of it in comparison to "achieving" something in a virtual world, hence my point.
Fair enough if you disagree, after all it's not absurd both sides, but do you honestly see my point and not understand what I am getting at? That the whole idea of this is to obtain 1 particular item, that isn't even regarded "godly".
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Why? These IOs are extremely rare... probably under a dozen per month or so drop across all servers. Since less than 0.1% of the game's population could ever hope to get one even if they were free due to the insanely low total supply, only the richest of the rich are even in the running. If even one player in a thousand is willing to offer 4 billion that will probably be enough people to account for every PvP 3% defense enhancement that ever drops in the lifetime of this game.
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Originally Posted by Arkyaeon
buy it now price made me LOL
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Why bother overpaying though? Unless you're very impatient, you can just set up a bid for 1.5-2bil on the markets and wait for one to be bought. Not to mention, you could save upwards of 2bil. Now I know there's all sorts of people that have that "buy it now" mentality, but when prices in the multiple 8-figure range are being tossed around, is it really worth it to pay twice in-game market value (or more) for an IO?| Why? These IOs are extremely rare... probably under a dozen per month or so drop across all servers. |
That being said, I was under the impression that afk farming PvP IO's wasn't possible any longer since they [supposedly] don't drop in the arenas. Do they actually still drop in the arenas or am I just missing how afk farming would work in a PvP zone?
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You'd have to be very patient. At any one time there are between 300-400 bids for the Glad +def IO at level 50. One sells maybe once every 3 or 4 days, always for 2 billion inf. So, if you were to put up a bid at 2 billion inf, you'd have a random chance out of the other few hundred people who also have 2 billion inf bids up to actually win the auction. |
Originally Posted by Pyber
Why bother overpaying though? Unless you're very impatient, you can just set up a bid for 1.5-2bil on the markets and wait for one to be bought.
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How long do you think it would take to get one with about a 0.5% chance of winning an auction every 3-4 days?
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Tell me what 31099 means, and I will tell you how to pvp io farm.
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Originally Posted by Pyber
That being said, I was under the impression that afk farming PvP IO's wasn't possible any longer since they [supposedly] don't drop in the arenas. Do they actually still drop in the arenas or am I just missing how afk farming would work in a PvP zone?
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*shrug* I know that I didn't have to wait too terribly long for the one I bid on a little while back. Took about 48 hours, but that isn't too bad if you ask me, seeing as it saved me upwards of a billion or more. I do see where you're coming from though. I just thought I'd toss it out there, since in my opinion its not worth buying something out-of-game for obscene amounts of money when you can get it in-game for a somewhat less obscene amount of money with a down payment of a little patience, hehe. |
You'd have to be very patient. At any one time there are between 300-400 bids for the Glad +def IO at level 50. One sells maybe once every 3 or 4 days, always for 2 billion inf. So, if you were to put up a bid at 2 billion inf, you'd have a random chance out of the other few hundred people who also have 2 billion inf bids up to actually win the auction. How long do you think it would take to get one with about a 0.5% chance of winning an auction every 3-4 days? |
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| Tell me what 31099 means, and I will tell you how to pvp io farm. |
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Originally Posted by Pyber
But if i tell you, I'll have to kill you...or at least do horrible things like steal your bacon and drink all your coffee.
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There is a difference, of course, between "3-400 bids" and "3-400 bids at 2 billion inf". I have no good mental model for how many of those are srs bids. 10? 100? No idea.
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I've 10 or so 2bil bids of my own serving as convenient inf storage (if any of them get lucky I can easily enough turn around and sell it on the forums for 3-4bil), can't help but imagine that there are others doing the same thing. Would be considerably surprised to see one of those items sell for less than 2bil on the market barring a change in the drop rate or how the IO operates.
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Originally Posted by Fulmens
There is a difference, of course, between "3-400 bids" and "3-400 bids at 2 billion inf". I have no good mental model for how many of those are srs bids. 10? 100? No idea.
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You are correct, of course. There is absolutely no way to tell. I'd guess that 100 (or more) is much more likely than 10, however.
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Originally Posted by Fulmens
There is a difference, of course, between "3-400 bids" and "3-400 bids at 2 billion inf". I have no good mental model for how many of those are srs bids. 10? 100? No idea.
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All my excess inf is stored on glad armor proc's, I've picked up 4 in the last 4 months, not an economical way to marketeer, but still better than storing inf on a non-existent item.
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Originally Posted by Umber
I've 10 or so 2bil bids of my own serving as convenient inf storage (if any of them get lucky I can easily enough turn around and sell it on the forums for 3-4bil), can't help but imagine that there are others doing the same thing. Would be considerably surprised to see one of those items sell for less than 2bil on the market barring a change in the drop rate or how the IO operates.
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Standard IO's become better than SO's at level 35 I think. At that point they have better numbers and NEVER wear out.
Heck there are many characters that I have which put in IO's when low level and barely touch them until I am much higher. And then it is normally to start switching out to IO Sets.
Yes, anything in the game can be done with just SO's in a character. But that does not mean that it can be done as easily.
If you build out a character well with IO's then you can just roll through many things.
There are not many SO'd characters that are going out to solo AV's.
And your example of solo'g the ITF is an example of being able to do some great things with IO's but the same character with just SO's would not last long doing the same thing.
Back on the topic of how much some of these IO's are worth, personally I do not think that they are worth the price but I understand what people are looking for in it because they are able to put one of these in the character and save slots for other sets that they may want.
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