What demon secondaries are you testing? How is it working out?
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Aura_Familia,
Posted on: 2010-04-14 20:25 in Masterminds
I'm working on a demon/thermal, although I may make a demon/ff when it goes live instead. Thermal will be a tight build since I do want all the attacks.
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I'm going Demon/Pain with the plan of taking at least two of the attacks for stacking -res, and supplimenting demon resist with all the /Pain goodies.
It's going to be some kind of tankermind, I think.
Painbinger added to hell on earth should be nice as well.
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It is so funny and nice imo to see people excited about taking the MM attacks for once. I felt the same way when I saw them. They look awesome in look and in what they actually do -res+KD is pretty awesome.
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I was working with a Demon/FF on the test server, seems to work pretty well so far. He's still rather low lvl but the Def is a great asset for the Demons. I haven't taken any attacks and i rarely do for MM's but i think that i'm gonna have to make some room for at least one or two of them.
All the secondaries seem to work well with Demons, good resists so any defense or -to hits will be great for them.. Wonder how to work demon/traps as a concept. 
DS/Dark here....they fit well....pretty much all you can say since everyone already knows about dark powers......
Whip powers are bit on the heavy side of end to take em all...so I don't see more than 1 maybe 2, but alas I am still a wee lil demon summna so times will tell.
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I just hope people take them to stack the -res and not have another wave of petless MMs running around.|
Originally Posted by Jharber
It is so funny and nice imo to see people excited about taking the MM attacks for once. I felt the same way when I saw them. They look awesome in look and in what they actually do -res+KD is pretty awesome.
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As for the topic at hand, I have got a lvl 12 demon/poison on test and it has been great so far.
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Originally Posted by Nights_Dawn
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DS/Poison. Neurotixic breath seems to help out the demonlings a heck of a lot, as well as envenom. I'm forced to pay a little more attention versus, say, /FF, but I like the combo.
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I'd love to hear if anyone has tested thoroughly with /Thermal. It's sounding like the built-in resists would stack very well with Thermal shields
Also, any impressions thus far of which one personal attack you would settle on if you were to only take one? I'm speculating the slower ST one, but the cone one sounds nice too
Lash is best because it does more damage and has a shorter activation time (after you run into melee).
If I can only fit one MM attack in, I'm gonna take the cone just for more targets hit
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Originally Posted by Nights_Dawn
Hazy is right
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If I were you, I'd take the fastest recharging one to stack the most -res on one tough target.
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Originally Posted by Hazygreys
If I can only fit one MM attack in, I'm gonna take the cone just for more targets hit
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Corruption, the first attack is also ranged at 80'; keep that in mind when deciding what to take.
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dark here,dut still deciding if i want to dry poision or therm
ill prolly go demon/traps or demon/TA (TA is a little end heavy but is huge debuff)
from trying out all 3 whip attacks, i prefer having the 80 ft ranged one over the short ranged ones (works better with TA), for traps i might get the multi-target one
Poison or pain here, both mesh well.
Was originally thinking /pain and that's what I made on test. However, seening that the ember demon has 2 heals (not sure yet if it will target the player with the single target heal like the merc medic does) I'm more inclined to go with /poison.
Stacking the slows of neurotoxic breath with the demon prince's shiver and chilling embrace means crippling a mobs movement and recharge. And the possibility of stacking over -100 resist debuffs on a mob sounds tasty. It will make less of an "autopilot" build than /pain but should just tear through content.
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So then is corruption considered a melee attack or a ranged attack in terms of IO slotting?
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Originally Posted by Obscure Blade
Corruption, the first attack is also ranged at 80'; keep that in mind when deciding what to take.
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On the demon/thermal I rolled, I'm realizing how much a pain vahzilok are gonna be. Zero resistances to toxic damage with that combo... period.
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well as long as you don't look for science enhancements you are all good. Given how demons are i don't thing it'll be much of a problem as most people will roll Magic or Natural
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Originally Posted by Madam_Enigma
On the demon/thermal I rolled, I'm realizing how much a pain vahzilok are gonna be. Zero resistances to toxic damage with that combo... period.
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Yeah, but I kept getting ambushed by packs of zombies in Cap Au Diablo. Twelve trips to the hosp because of them.
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Originally Posted by Roze_Sama
well as long as you don't look for science enhancements you are all good. Given how demons are i don't thing it'll be much of a problem as most people will roll Magic or Natural
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as i tp i don't have that problem |
Originally Posted by Madam_Enigma
Yeah, but I kept getting ambushed by packs of zombies in Cap Au Diablo. Twelve trips to the hosp because of them.
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but you should have the jet pack at least unless they were camping the hospital or the mish door...
demon/therm with a sexy succubus kind of MM. 2 pet res procs and shields will make those pets extremely tough. Forge to take advantage of all the -res.
or I'll go demon/traps with a trapper dude who grew tired of trapping earthly creatures and moved on to more challenging targets. Namely demons. The two def procs and FFGen+manuevers will make the t3 pet unstoppable.
Basically, whichever one I can more easily achieve my desired survivability and then cram the most recharge in for maximum up-time of hell on earth.
Either way, I'm looking for some sub 2 minute AV takedowns haha.
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Heh, sorry but no. used up the jet pack already. And have no travel power yet. Heck, didn't get the prelim travel pool power till 14.
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Originally Posted by Roze_Sama
as i tp i don't have that problem
but you should have the jet pack at least unless they were camping the hospital or the mish door... |
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DS/Dark all the way. Prolly taking two attacks.
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Originally Posted by Madam_Enigma
Heh, sorry but no. used up the jet pack already. And have no travel power yet. Heck, didn't get the prelim travel pool power till 14.
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Originally Posted by Aura_Familia
Run newspapers and get the temp super jump power.
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I am just wondering what people are testing atm. I am installing test right now so I have not even tried anything yet. What have you guys tested so far with demon secondaries?
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