Scrapper Patron Powers?


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Well I've recently heard that when you switch sides in Going Rogue you will in fact be able to attain patron/ancillary powers. Now I'm wondering a few things about how this will work but of all these the most important to my meta is...which versions of the patrons will the scrappers have access too? My heart is hoping against all hopes that it will be brutes but this seems rather unlikely as I'm somewhat expecting stalkers....JUST GIVE ME GLOOM ON MY DM/SD! That's all I'm asking for!


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Well I've recently heard that when you switch sides in Going Rogue you will in fact be able to attain patron/ancillary powers. Now I'm wondering a few things about how this will work but of all these the most important to my meta is...which versions of the patrons will the scrappers have access too? My heart is hoping against all hopes that it will be brutes but this seems rather unlikely as I'm somewhat expecting stalkers....JUST GIVE ME GLOOM ON MY DM/SD! That's all I'm asking for!

It will be brutes or stalkers (coin flip as to which), or possibly even new versions of each patron pool for all blueside ATs (and vice versa for Epic pools for redside ATs)


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Well I've recently heard that when you switch sides in Going Rogue you will in fact be able to attain patron/ancillary powers.
Source?


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If this is true, and scrappers get brute pools, then my main could get darkest night and gloom. Soft-capped defense + scaling resists + a aoe damage debuff + tough. Nice.


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I would love Web Envelope or Electrifying Fences (AoE immobs) on a Spine/Elec


 

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Mace blast could add an amusing ranged element to some serious melee scrappers.


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I bet Scraps will get Stalker pools, because Tankers will get Brute's (if this switch happens anyway). No DN, Gloom and only Ball Lightning as AoE, but I bet some regenes, elec, dark, fire who built for some defense will love Shadow Meld, and a few others may like Hibernate and Water Spout (might be handy against EBs/AVs).


 

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Nevermind


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Yeah, I like Blasters too.

 

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My guess is that they'll get semi-new pools that look similar to Brute pools.

Of course, if we can ply Castle with enough liquor long enough, maybe we'll get Dominator Pools.


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They might get a mix of Stalker and Brute, as I could see it.


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As long as I get conserve power on my brutes, I could care less if it was scrapper or tank pools.


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I don't remember any transcripts from PAX saying anything about this.


 

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If scrappers got Darkest Night it would rekindle my interest in actually BEING one, certainly.

*Edit* - Let me clarify. It's not that I think Scrappers are bad, far from it, it's just that Brutes are simply *better*, so when given the choice I'm going to pick a Brute over a Scrapper.


 

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If scrappers got Darkest Night it would rekindle my interest in actually BEING one, certainly.
Wow, profound. What AT and powersets are you playin? Seriously? I wanna know what AT's have YOUR attention.


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Spine/fire/mu would be soooo wrong with brute patrons.


Which is mainly why I want one.

Honestly would rather just have spines given to brutes but I guess I would settle for a scrapper version.


 

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I will laugh so hard if Scrappers get Stalker patrons.
Yea that would be great for pvp, give regen scrappers access to hibernate.


 

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I will laugh so hard if Scrappers get Stalker patrons.

While I prefer the Brute choice, either scenario is a win win for scrappers. We can actually take good powers with out burning a pick on hold.


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Wow, profound. What AT and powersets are you playin? Seriously? I wanna know what AT's have YOUR attention.
Er, Brute?


 

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The only benefit that a brute has over a scrapper is hit points and punchvoke, other than that, I believe, they're both on par in just about every other aspect.


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The only benefit that a brute has over a scrapper is hit points and punchvoke, other than that, I believe, they're both on par in just about every other aspect.
Buff caps. Brutes have a 90% resistance cap compared to a Scrapper's 75%. Brutes have a 850% damage cap, Scrapper damage cap is 500%. Brutes benefit much more from buffs on a team.

Plus for the time being, there are a few sets Scrappers have that Brutes don't have access to and vice versa.

Edit: and the autohit AoE Taunts in their primaries, vs the ST Scrapper ones.


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Buff caps. Brutes have a 90% resistance cap compared to a Scrapper's 75%. Brutes have a 850% damage cap, Scrapper damage cap is 500%. Brutes benefit much more from buffs on a team.
Brutes have the clear upper hand in survivability, but I disagree with the claim that they "benefit much more from buffs on a team" when it comes to damage. At peak performance, a Brute and a Scrapper will both do about the same damage. If anything the Brute might do slightly more damage than the Scrapper in certain situations.