Dying During the Dual Pistols Nuke

Anyone else doing this, like, a LOT?

I think I've died about 10 times in two days during the nuke animation. Many more times I've finished the animation desperately trying to eat a green or purple. Maybe it's because I'm on villain side where no one seems to much bother taking point or dealing with aggro. Anyone else having this issue? Still like the set overall, but trying to get my head around the nuke.

I've avoided the issue by avoiding the set.

To answer your question though figure out about how much damage over survival level you are taking and eat enough purple and/or orange insps BEFORE you use the nuke.

You still won't kill the spawn but you might survive long enough to get Empty Clips and Bullet Rain off again.

It certainly is on the risky side as far as nukes are concerned. I mean, I am used to playing my dp corr in melee range, as she is a kin, but I think it is part of the fun of the set.

I won't lie though, I have planted several times pulling off my nuke. I just love that stuff still gets killed after I do though.

If you are going to open with it, take a luck (or two) first.
The nuke is bigger than most people realize, you do not need to be directly in the middle and in melee with the whole spawn.
Since you are a corruptor, is there anything from your secondary that can aid you before you drop the HoB?
Consider using Chem rounds and use Bullet Rain then HoB.
Let someone else eat the alpha.

thats i think why DP works better with dark or traps, traps you could poison trap then use the nuke and dark you have dark servant debuffing their acc and you could fearsome stare when you get to mob, further debuffing acc and slightly controlling the mob so they arent beating on you right away

I'm a Pistols/Dark.

I've played with a bunch of different ways of doing it. Part of the problem might have been how much time my group spent fighting Malta. But it was also the way the power starts dragging aggro to you while you're still stuck in the animation and can't react. When there were Dominators around things weren't so rough, but unless that was the case.. ouch. Maybe I need to be switching to Lethal rounds when I'm scared they might kill me.

Are you using Fearsome Stare before you HoB? I don't always need Darkest Night, but if I were having trouble staying upright, I'd be using that first too.

Fearsome Stare then DN. Drop a Tar Patch then HoB (or start with one of your other AoEs and follow with HoB). Most stuff misses after FS and DN are used, IME.

The knockdown in lethal rounds is good, but does not come until near the end of the animation.

I'd love a short PBAoE fear effect in HoB that started right as you clicked it. Take at least some of the heat off you as the animation played.

Actually, I wish Suppressive Fire was a fear too, and more of a Empty Clips animation. It would fit with what you are trying to accomplish, and be easier to slot for.

Fear isn't often used in the blast sets.

The DP nuke is very hard to use without getting killed unless you have passive mitigation or have the spawn debuffed into the floor first. On my /Kin I only started using it after I got softcapped S/L def.

Open your combatnumbers with /toggle combatnumbers
Monitor Melee Defense, Ranged Defense, and AoE Defense
Pop purples until you reach 45% prior to nuking
Reduce insp consumption until a happy medium is reached for your current difficulty
Profit

The nuke is 4 seconds you have to survive. Going from 0% to 25% defense cuts your damage intake in half, from 25% to 37.25% in half again, at 45% defense roughly only ~5-10% of the attacks will hit you.

45% defense is the magic number. If you take into account Darkest Night slotted with SOs doing -23% to-hit, you only need to get 22% defense to be nearly unhittable.

No not really. But I've done alot of teaming. So, others to spread the aggro around.

While on small teams/solo however...it becomes a lot more risky. And it has happened.

With IOs, I really don't see it being to much of a problem...Dark Miasma + IOs should be keeping you rather save.

Corrupters as a whole have access to S/L/E defense, that should go a long way in helping avoid the faceplanting.

For Blasters, yeah, it becomes alot harder. :/

I guess the nuke would be pretty good on a Traps Defender (or Corruptor?) since you could hit the soft cap (eventually) or at the very least have a nice defense bonus with the Force Field Generator. Maybe on a FF Defender too.

Lewis

I see myself dieing as much as any other blaster in the middle of a nuke animation

Hm...

Have you tried using a Howling Twilight for the Stun? If you slot it for Disorient it might help mitigate the damage.

Ideally, I'd use a combination of Darkest Night, Petrifying Gaze, Tar Patch, Dark Servant (to help hold aggro, as well as the extra debuffs), Chemical Ammo (for the Damage Debuff), then Howling Twilight > Hail of Bullets.

Realistically, I'd say you could get by with Dark Servant and Howling Twilight while using chemical ammo. But Howling Twilight should make things much easier if you've slotted it properly.

On teams I always let someone else take the aggro and then only nuke from the edge of the spawn. To run to the middle is to take damage from all those AOE's that get tossed out on the player who just ran in before you even begin the animation. I've drawn aggro right through my wife's Warshade even through taunt with HoB, but once I started nuking the edge of the spawn the dyin' (on my part) stopped.

Solo I generally open up with Executioner's Shot (slotted for range) or Piercing rounds. I can generally get off one or two more of the shorter animating attacks before the first of the spawn gets to me, and if there's no corner handy to pull to I'll open with HoB as the first wave reaches melee range. Since anyone moving into the AoE takes damage regardless of when they enter, I usually have a bunch of bodies on the floor afterword, but I always back up a step and hit Empty Clips and/or Bullet Rain to finish off the stragglers.

HoB takes MUCH less priority over the other attacks solo, but once I learned to use it I found it very useful.

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Originally Posted by b0bcatmc I'd love a short PBAoE fear effect in HoB that started right as you clicked it. Take at least some of the heat off you as the animation played.

You know, I could get behind that. Stalkers didn't have a fear/tohit debuff component to their Assassin Strike until some player asked for it.

A fear effect would be effective, but I believe a short +Def, as has been suggested, is more iconic for a pistoleer.