I... need a moment to confirm your desires...
You want, and correct me if I'm wrong, them to put i17 features on the live servers for free activation/2x XP weekend? Features that are still in beta, and may break the game for many people?
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I took it more like *why didn't they have double exp next month when all the new shinys are out to really get people wanting to come back*. If that is indeed what the OP is saying I gotta say I some what agree.
I believe it's more thinking that DXP weekend should have been postponed until I17 was going live so that all the people coming back for the weekend would be able to see the new features.
Of course they could do another free activation weekend when I17 comes out... Stop looking at me like that! It could happen. :P
Aah, yes; a few weeks after i17 may have been a more.... strategic placement of this event. I say a couple weeks after to give time to work out some inevitable kinks.
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Definitely agreed. My friends and I went to check out the game with our reactivated accounts, two of us are going to stay for the weekend but everyone else just took a look, went "that's it ?" and left.
You'd think Double Xp is the kind of thing that's most likely to interest current players rather than people who cancelled. It's odd they choose this time to reactivate rather than after i17 (I'm certainly not complaining, I'm having a blast, but I think I'm the exception).
DXP weekends are scheduled pretty far in advance. Don't think there was anything they coulda done with out an uproar from all the people that make plans around the posted dates of em....though I spose they could have done the reactivation later.
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Really? I guess I'm out of the loop then, because I hadn't heard anything about THIS double XP's date until a relatively short time ago.... compared to last year's calendar...
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DXP weekends are scheduled pretty far in advance. Don't think there was anything they coulda done with out an uproar from all the people that make plans around the posted dates of em....though I spose they could have done the reactivation later.
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And they might have another after i17 (possibly with Going Rogue, as well).
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Originally Posted by GeneralGlory
so this weekend reactivation double XP isn't going to be with i 17?
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Give a free weekend at a point that's a traditional low spot in player activity (right before a new issue), and let people realize there will soon be something worth paying for.
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Honestly I think that due to the short beta period (only 1 month or so) of i17 there may be some crashes and bugs that hit even after the thing goes live. That would be a bad thing to have happen during double exp.
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Honestly I think that due to the short beta period (only 1 month or so) of i17 there may be some crashes and bugs that hit even after the thing goes live. That would be a bad thing to have happen during double exp.
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A lot of the people I talk to say they hate DXP weekends for various reasons. I can't imagine having a buggy update interrupting the gameplay would make it any better.
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Why should they give away something for free when I17 is good enough that people will more than likely pay to see it? Give a free weekend at a point that's a traditional low spot in player activity (right before a new issue), and let people realize there will soon be something worth paying for. |
I forgot how delusional some fanboys could get in there. Defend anything and everything the devs do to the death, even if it's a mistake, and if they admit it was a mistake sometime later, turn your coat and pretend what you said didn't happen, right ?
I mean, I'm not saying what we're actually talking about in this topic is a mistake, but how out of touch with reality do you have to be to seriously believe people will "realize there will be soon be something worth paying for" by playing the game that's still in the same state than when they left ? The only way people who left can know about the new stuff coming is by reading the forums or looking up information elsewhere, in other words, stuff outside of the game ; only a minority is going to care enough to do that, and account reactivation is irrelevant to that - except that it lets that minority laugh at crazy fanboys in public.
*And* you're talking about I17, not GR... I've looked up a bit and all I can see about it is ultra-mode, four story arcs and QoL improvements ; nothing to make me want to resub, nothing to make anyone want to resub without any other reason. If there's something awesome about I17, they've done a really good job at hiding the information.
Craftable temp powers are going to be easier to make ! You can have seven missions active instead of three ! Yeah, sorry, I can't see anyone who's left the game excited about coming back because of that. It's mostly stuff to improve the experience of current players - which isn't a bad thing at all, it's just not the same target audience.
Dispari's hypothesis makes much more sense.
If people ONLY come back for a w/e for 2xp, ten why worry about what they want? Really, they know the game, and choose not to pay each month like the rest of us. Please, cater more to the needs or wants of the people that are dedicated.
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This type of thinking is actually harmful, and no not a fanboy here. Guess what, YOU DON'T HAVE TO PLAY, if you are tired of this game leave. Those of us that do and will continue to pay to play, are the players that should be catered to. When you leave, we pay the bills.
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Heh.
I forgot how delusional some fanboys could get in there. Defend anything and everything the devs do to the death, even if it's a mistake, and if they admit it was a mistake sometime later, turn your coat and pretend what you said didn't happen, right ? I mean, I'm not saying what we're actually talking about in this topic is a mistake, but how out of touch with reality do you have to be to seriously believe people will "realize there will be soon be something worth paying for" by playing the game that's still in the same state than when they left ? The only way people who left can know about the new stuff coming is by reading the forums or looking up information elsewhere, in other words, stuff outside of the game ; only a minority is going to care enough to do that, and account reactivation is irrelevant to that - except that it lets that minority laugh at crazy fanboys in public. *And* you're talking about I17, not GR... I've looked up a bit and all I can see about it is ultra-mode, four story arcs and QoL improvements ; nothing to make me want to resub, nothing to make anyone want to resub without any other reason. If there's something awesome about I17, they've done a really good job at hiding the information. Craftable temp powers are going to be easier to make ! You can have seven missions active instead of three ! Yeah, sorry, I can't see anyone who's left the game excited about coming back because of that. It's mostly stuff to improve the experience of current players - which isn't a bad thing at all, it's just not the same target audience. Dispari's hypothesis makes much more sense. |
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Restaurant manager here, and laugh so hard at this because it is so true.
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If there's something awesome about I17, they've done a really good job at hiding the information.
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I don't know if it will get many people to resub, but I consider that awesome.
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Originally Posted by GeneralGlory
so this weekend reactivation double XP isn't going to be with i 17?
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What would make you think in the *least* that it would be ready this weekend?
Besides, marketing wise it's great. People are going to see people running around with dual pistols and ask "Hey, where'd you get that?" They'll then be told they pre-purchased Going Rogue to have them unlocked, getting others interested - potentially enough to prepurchase it themselves.
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UI update could potentially be pretty awesome.
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Isn't the feature that shows the location of the last mob or glowie on the map coming with I17?
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This type of thinking is actually harmful, and no not a fanboy here. Guess what, YOU DON'T HAVE TO PLAY, if you are tired of this game leave. Those of us that do and will continue to pay to play, are the players that should be catered to. When you leave, we pay the bills.
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Why are you still here?? Don't like it? Leave and don't come back till GR. We have... lessee: Power customization, Dual pistols, Some new TF's and Revamped Ones being worked on. More to come down the pipes even with GR coming.
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DXP + I17 in one weekend brings interest to the game once.
DXP one weekend, then Issue 17 down the road equals interest to the game twice.
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DXP + I17 in one weekend brings interest to the game once. DXP one weekend, then Issue 17 down the road equals interest to the game twice. |
Drawing people to the game on two occasions instead of one blow-out seems like a better mid-term solution.
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I forgot how delusional some fanboys could get in there. Defend anything and everything the devs do to the death, even if it's a mistake, and if they admit it was a mistake sometime later, turn your coat and pretend what you said didn't happen, right ?
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I forgot how bitter and entitled people who leave the game can get. Sue me.
If it's not worth paying for to you, don't pay. I've talked to several people back this weekend and when they asked (*gasp* who knew they could ASK about what's coming?!) they got interested and excited about I17.
Go ahead and downplay it all you want, but there's a laundry list of things in I17 people have been asking for for years. If it's not worth paying for to you, we won't miss you.
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so this weekend reactivation double XP isn't going to be with i 17?
I think this game is missing a golden opportunity to show off our new stuff. Why have this before the new graphics? it just doesn't make sense.