Maybe they're just giving a free sample to get people addicted.
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It could lead to a mass exodus to the higher pop servers, but I doubt that the traffic would be all one way. I have characters on all of the servers including Freedom and Virtue, and I enjoy the unique atmospheres of the big two, but I wouldn't want to play either one to the exclusion of all the others.|
Originally Posted by Phantom Patriot
It could also be argued that this will contribute to server pupolations dieing off completely. Don't get me wrong, I still think it's a viable idea and I support it.
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At the very least I'd hope they maintain the free transfers into 2XP weekend - not only to show returning players another perk they didn't have before, but to give those that have transferred first hand experience of the... erm... drawbacks of the higher pop servers.
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The other side of this is the extra subscription power that this generates. I can say for certain that there are several subs that currently would not be active if these free transfers hadn't come around. |
Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill
No issue with your other comments, but this is one heck of an assumption. Just because they decide to give something away for a time as a perk (or in preparation for GR, perhaps) does not mean it was not profitable - and $0 is even MORE unprofitable (given the zero-workload nature of it, barring glitches) than $10.
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TBH, Once the PvP league is over, if there aren't free server transfers again anytime soon, I would probably not reup myself. I currently don't consider freedom my home server so the ability to move back to infinity after the PvP league ends would be nice.
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Fix't. I've migrated a few off of Virtue and Freedom. Nothing to. I know of others doing the same thing.
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Originally Posted by NightshadeLegree
I guarantee that the traffic isn't all one way.
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I moved one character to Freedom for the month of February, but she's moving back to Triumph tomorrow. I just wanted to see what Freedom was like these days.
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Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill
Fix't. I've migrated a few off of Virtue and Freedom. Nothing to. I know of others doing the same thing.
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Altoholic - but a Blaster at Heart!
Originally Posted by SpyralPegacyon
"You gave us a world where we could fly. I can't thank you enough for that."
Yes please.
Enjoy your day please.
I don't believe this has been mentioned yet, but...
Free server transfers make for-pay rename tokens a waste.
- Transfer Character "ABCD" from server X to server Y
- If "ABCD" exists on server Y, rename character and transfer back to server X
- Create character "ABCD" on server X
- Transfer "ABCD" from server Y to server X. A rename is forced (and free)
- Delete "ABCD", since it's no longer needed
http://www.fimfiction.net/story/36641/My-Little-Exalt
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Good point. If they make server transfers free then they'll just have to stop giving out free rename tokens with the transfers.
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Originally Posted by Fleeting Whisper
I don't believe this has been mentioned yet, but...
Free server transfers make for-pay rename tokens a waste.
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In fact, there has been an on going - as you say - "exodus" FROM the the higher population servers (aka Freedom and Virtue - more so from Freedom). So much, in fact from Freedom, that they have been complaining about their population being reduced.People were moving characters away from Freedom even before free server transfers started.|
Originally Posted by NightshadeLegree
It could lead to a mass exodus to the higher pop servers, but I doubt that the traffic would be all one way. I have characters on all of the servers including Freedom and Virtue, and I enjoy the unique atmospheres of the big two, but I wouldn't want to play either one to the exclusion of all the others.
At the very least I'd hope they maintain the free transfers into 2XP weekend - not only to show returning players another perk they didn't have before, but to give those that have transferred first hand experience of the... erm... drawbacks of the higher pop servers. |
I, honestly, don't like some of the behavior that I find prevalent on Freedom, and I have not been playing there (other to log in to keep SG/VG's up and running) since not long after the AE was released.
Other players have posted the same comments on the forums and, in fact, asking for free server transfers so that they could move their characters OFF of Freedom because they no longer wanted to play there. I'm guessing those that did are glad that they had the chance to move their characters away from Freedom for free.
The servers each have their own flavor. To say that Virtue and Freedom are unique is like saying Chocolate and plain-generic Vanilla ice cream are unique - and I am pairing up Freedom with plain-generic Vanilla ice cream intentionally. If repetitive ad naseum behavior is unique then you have a different definition of unique than I do.
You might ask "What the advantage of a lower population server?"
One thing is less lag. Fewer players do mean less lag. If you are a slow connection, fewer players can make the difference between playing and reoccurring map server disconnects.
If you are a team tactics player, you are more likely to find teams with non-standard rush-in-to-everything (aka bull-in-the-china-shop) teams on the lower population servers. At least, this is what I have found to be the case.
Those that are PRO-Free Character Transfers have another week to enjoy them. If you want to keep them free, then you need to post and get the world around others to post about this.
I am against server mergers. I certainly do not want to be FORCED to play on Freedom.
I hope that, at some point, the situation on Freedom changes. However, I don't see that happening. Luckily, the kinds of players that want to play in that manner searched out Freedom and are likely to stay there and not make characters on other servers.
And that's too bad because my group of players had managed to set-up decent sg and vgs on Freedom.
If I didn't have to buy slots for my character and I could move the entire bases (and everything in them) to another server, I would move the sg, vg, and all my characters off of Freedom.
As it is I have all my slots full except for 4 which I am saving for DP and Demon-summoning characters which I will not be making until the GR::Complete Edition is on sale, GR goes live, and I've saved up enough loot to buy it.
I'm seriously promoting
FREE SERVER TRANSFERS
FOREVER!
because I think it is a great benefit to the community.
FOREVER!
You've changed my mind from not bothered to supportive to OK I am now /signing this!
Not that I would move from Defiant, but it is plain to see from your side of the argument, this is something that is needed by a majoritiy of players!
Guess I'm lucky I like the server I picked. I am considering making a character on Union, just to see what they're RP skills are like, the deciding factor will be if someone has already taken the name on there 
and any sign of ERPing which will make me run all the back to Defiant, breaking the legs of Skulls' girlfriends on the way!
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My definition of 'unique' doesn't necessarily mean 'good'. It means distinctive, or different.|
Originally Posted by The_Alt_oholic
The servers each have their own flavor. To say that Virtue and Freedom are unique is like saying Chocolate and plain-generic Vanilla ice cream are unique - and I am pairing up Freedom with plain-generic Vanilla ice cream intentionally. If repetitive ad naseum behavior is unique then you have a different definition of unique than I do.
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What I mean is that if it was possible to blindly log into a random server I'd still know within 5 minutes or less of watching the Broadcast chatter in AP if I was on Virtue or Freedom, something I can't say about any of the others.
I enjoy them both, and the others. Browsing character bios and costumes is always entertaining on Virtue, and if I want a couple of hours of random PUGing then Freedom will be my first choice. But sometimes the ((Drama)) of Virtue gets silly, and the last time I started a new alt on Freedom I wasn't in the mood for the AE spam and it felt oppressive rather than lively, so I fled from AP at level 4 (the lowest level at which I could reasonably expect not to be slaughtered by every Skull in KR.)
I'm very pleased the transfers are being extended through 2XP weekend. It should be interesting to see what impact that has, especially on Freedom.
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You do lose the record of your prestiage earning and SG membership as a cost to renaming via transfers.|
Originally Posted by Fleeting Whisper
I don't believe this has been mentioned yet, but...
Free server transfers make for-pay rename tokens a waste.
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Not an issue for many I know.
I'ld like to see the free transfers stay.
I don't suffer from altitis, I enjoy every minute of it.
Thank you Devs & Community people for a great game.
So sad to be ending ):
I must be either really lucky, really ignorant, or even both, but I've never noticed any of this devil-summoning evil behavior on Freedom that the server is so well-known for. Sure, there are more farmers on Freedom than most servers, but they don't even bother me. I've met a lot of really nice people on Freedom and I find it the most enjoyable server to play on. Other servers are too lonely and empty feeling, and it's harder to make teams. On Freedom I can just snap my fingers and have a full team created in mere minutes. But... I digress...
I'm going to join the vocal minority and say no to free server transfers. There are exploits to using the system, such as getting free name change tokens and it would create a large burden for the servers to handle, with so many transfers going on at once at all times. You should be able to determine whether or not you like a server within a short time, so you can re-roll if the server doesn't suit you.
I say if you haven't moved all the characters you wanted too by the end of the free-time, that's too bad. You snooze you lose. Move around all the characters you want now so you don't have to worry about the period ending before you're done.
*dons flame-retardent suit and awaits the swarm of negative comments on his post*
Arc ID: 348998 - Becoming a villain
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Free server transfers have their problems, but other MMORPGs have a single server and it's a non-trivial change to make CoH use that model. The naming problem would have to be resolved in ways that many users have complained bitterly about.|
Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
I'd sooner see them make a uni-server before just leaving server transfers perpetually open. Naming issues, Super Group status, server populations, bah humbug.
It's not like I have a reason to really complain if it happens, but it's not something I'd write out in capital letters, either. |
The devs might consider a "just visiting" transfer: you send your character to another server for a single playing session, retaining all your SG and name information on your "home" server. When you log out you get sent back to your home server automatically, without losing any of your status on that server. While visiting you can't join a SG or do anything permanent (though you can give things to other characters). The number of free visits would be limited to some reasonable number per week; more than that and you would pay.
People could go to particular servers for specific reasons: PvP events, global costume contests, dev-hosted events, etc. Your name could be qualified by the home server name while you're visiting. With all the multiverse hopping that goes on in the game, it could even be worked into the mythology and become part of the story line for the game.
That kind of service might actually generate more revenue than permanent transfers if the cost (above the free ones) were low enough to fall below most players' threshold of pain. If it only cost a buck to visit another server after you've done it three times in one week, you might just go ahead and do it if your buddies are all getting together for a PvP session and you've already had your three free visits that week.
If the devs are considering such a change the free transfers they're giving us now would be a good way to see how people use the free transfers to inform how it should work and be priced.
As someone who's maxed out one server and basically started moving other alts into others due to lack of play, I have to admit, the concept of free server transfers appeals to me.
While I play around with a multitude of people, most of my alts belong to SGs run by friends who have enough alts in this game that prestige isn't a really big concern.
This kind of thing would be perfect for me, as shifting an alt I'm playing more *right now* into an active server while putting others in reserve opens up a HUGE degree of flexibility regarding character slots. Unlimited server transfers effectively gives you unlimited alts....or at least, by any reasonable standard. I suppose one could theoretically exceed the limit if they tried for every POSSIBLE power combination....
Nonetheless, /signed because someone needs to think of the altitis sufferers, dammit!
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
You're right: this whole issue is a money grab. We're going to be grabbing money from impatient people with money to burn and completionist complexes, and using it to make a better game for everyone, including the 99.9% of the rest of the playerbase that isn't going to be buying everything, multiple times, immediately upon release, and spending hundreds of dollars in the process.
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"I love this plan, I'm excited to be a part of it!"
/signed
Global @radubadu
Usually playing one of the following toons blueside on Virtue:
Cadler 50 WP/SS tanker
Radubadu 46 Fire/Fire blaster
Hell Runner 35 Fire/Fire brute
/Signed IF
The US and EU are one. One server list to find them them all on, one ring.. err list to play them, one list to bring them all and in one community make them.
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While some may consider their prestige count in the SG window is important, is there anyone in the game that thinks it's $10 worth of important?
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Originally Posted by tanstaafl
You do lose the record of your prestiage earning and SG membership as a cost to renaming via transfers.
Not an issue for many I know. |
http://www.fimfiction.net/story/36641/My-Little-Exalt
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I agree. While I like the fact that TPTB allowed server transfers, a|
Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
I'd sooner see them make a uni-server before just leaving server transfers perpetually open. Naming issues, Super Group status, server populations, bah humbug.
It's not like I have a reason to really complain if it happens, but it's not something I'd write out in capital letters, either. |
completely open system will cause issues too. I already deleted one
character because the name wasn't available - A number at the end
ruined the effect for me.
Currently back for reactivation, but subbing again very soon.
Definitely /Signed!
/Signed
I can honestly say that if it weren't for the free server transfers starting back in December that I would have left. The game was getting dull and being able to transfer servers for free kept me from leaving. And honestly once they go away, I'm likely to leave, at least until GR comes out.
Call me a cheapskate but I consider spending $10 to transfer a character to another server which is virtually the same, but just different players a waste of money.
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Originally Posted by Lady Arete
/Signed IF
The US and EU are one. One server list to find them them all on, one ring.. err list to play them, one list to bring them all and in one community make them. |
Also /signed
Blazara Aura LVL 50 Fire/Psi Dom (with 125% recharge)
Flameboxer Aura LVL 50 SS/Fire Brute
Ice 'Em Aura LVL 50 Ice Tank
Darq Widow Fortune LVL 50 Fortunata (200% rech/Night Widow 192.5% rech)--thanks issue 19!
/signed
I'd love for there to be free transfers, but I'd even more prefer a system that allowed over-server teaming that allowed names and VG/SG statuses to remain intact.
I have multiple friends that play on multiple servers. There are many times I catch myself saying "I'd love to do [X activity with friend] as Y character, but they're on Z server!" Transfering them just to play means losing a name/renaming, and losing all SG/VG status.
A cross-server teaming system would be preferable. Before then, free transfers all the way. 
I would be very surprised if server transfers are even a decent portion of the income.