Scythe Class!!!

So I have played a few lvls on Dante's Inferno and even watched the Animated Movie. I got to the thinking. Why isn't there a Scythe class in this game. I mean its perfect. It would be much like a Broadsword rather instead of Smashing it would be more Lethal Damage, probably a little bit less damage though than a Broadsword to account for its Speed being faster than a Broadsword.

I mean why not create this class? This game really does need a serious overhaul of new class types to choose from. Even a fresh coat of paint to the old powers would do. Much like you did with choosing between the old and new styles for Martial Arts!

I don't know if DEV's are with me on this but I know alot of fellow CoX'ers would love the Scythe class as a new set for Brutes, Stalkers, Scrappers, Tanks.

Well thats my little tidbit for this early morning. I have other ideas but doubt those would get much attention as this.

Synapse answered this question, a Scythe is very specific weapon that doesn't really lend itself to concept flexibility, and it's not very predominant in the comic book world like say, a sword or an axe.

new power set: NO.

I do like the idea, however, of a 2handed weapon option on maces & axes.

The downside of course is you can no longer use SD with the 2handed option.....or could you?????

Maybe....just maybe.....a particular dev...who's name starts with a P....might consider allowing shield on two handed weapons with the shield as a small buckler on the off-hand forearm.

Since this would involve new animations it'll never happen.

& so we move on to the next topic.

Personally, I'm always going to root for more weapon options. Of course, I'm still an avid Pen and Paper DnD roleplayer.....

The Scythe in particular is interesting in that even though it has a lower crit chance than other weapons, it does superior damage when it actually crits. I wish there was this option with all AT's, but I fully understand that balance must be maintained. Still.....the thought of an occasional crit from a weapon like a scythe doing massive damage intrigues me.

I don't see how different a scythe is from a pole (except for it using smashing damage instead of lethal damage). Many comic heroes use pole fighting, (ex. Teen Titan Robin). The game already has two handed weapons in claws and double blades that cannot use shields. So the game can be taught not to allow combonations that have odd animations. Then all you need is animations for poles. At which point a lot of people might be happy with skins for the poles that included a scythe. All of that sounds doable.

Yeah, uh... is this where I sign up for the Scythe Class? Dude down the hall told me to come here. My buddy said this course is an easy "A."

Just make scythes as custom weapons for Battle Axe. If I'm not seeing things entirely wrong, the haycutter's blade should face the right directions correctly.

edit: OR MAYBE PEOPLE WANT SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

Could get behind Scythes if they were in a powerset that included the following weapon choices:

Scythes
Hockey Sticks
Boes
Quaterstaffs
Halbards
Bladed Spears
Vanguard Sword (Double ended)
Extending Acrobat Staff (DnD TV series)
Walking Sticks
Canes

Anyone else agree?

Well, as others have said, scythe is a specific weapon, so if it would be only scythes then no. But Im behind making it a skin for a mace. Or making it a set that has extra skins to please enough people. As a powerset, yes it sounds great. I like the idea of low crit hit chance and high critical hit damage. But, as a rule, the powers that please the most people will likely get made first. So, since the scythe is rather specific I believe that to please more people you would have to expand it to pole-like weapons, then maybe if you get enough supporters it could be considered in the future.

Edit: Oh, and imagine the amount of grim reapers that would pop up! @-@ Youd think the apocalypse had come.

I think when the devs ever get around to pole sets, they should start out unique to the melee ATs. Start out with 4 different sets and then proliferate them over time.

Scrapper = Staff
Brute = War Hammer
Tanker = Poleaxe/Spear
Stalker = Scythe

Each of those realistically fight in different manners (you definitely don't swing a huge hammer like you would a staff or a spear like a scythe) so would require different animations. Figure out unique styles that take into account their weapons and you've got the pole weapons all covered.

Scythe = lower crit rate, higher crit dmg
Staff = higher crit rate, lower crit dmg
War Hammer = ?
PA/Spear = ?

I'd rather just see a single Polearm powerset with a lot of custom weapon options.

It'd be even better if they could figure out damage types based on the current weapon model... spear, poleaxe, scythe, etc = lethal damage; staff, warhammer, etc = smashing damage. (Perhaps have two modes, as with Dual Pistols' ammo types, where when active your weapon morphs into a bladed version? Then you simply pick two different weapon models, and the toggle shifts between them with an effect.)

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If that's the route you think is best, they should just revamp all the weapon sets to do that. But instead of some sort of 'swap' power or even just switching dmg type by weapon model, you'd get to customize the set yourself.

You'd pick a mace model and then go to the powers screen and under the melee set, you'd have "Weapon Style". So I could make a mace guy that has a parrying ability and some solid DPS, or a combo-ing mace, or a mace has reduced endurance costs and a 'Focus'/'Shockwave' strike.

So there wouldn't even be multiple weapon sets, just a 'Weapon Set' with differing styles and your choice of smashing or lethal dmg (by what weapon you choose). Of course, there'd have to be some animation work so that each style looked right for their weapon but it's the ultimate multi-weapon custom set where you never have to add another like-set, just weapon models with their animations and possibly new weapon styles when they feel like it.

TLDR; version: If they're going to generalize pole weapons like that, might as well go the whole 9 yards and generalize all weapons. It's the same conceptual result, IMO.

No need for a scythe power set, just give a scythe model for katana and call it a day.

Jade and all try this:

Two-handed Polearm Weapons...
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=211103

As I posted in the 'Official' Suggestions and Ideas forum thread.

As I recall, BABs has said that the issue with polearms, scythes, staves, etc is that creating a model with two weapon connection points is beyond the capabilities of the engine. Things like swords and assault rifles fake it (one hands isn't really "connected" or both connect to a single point) but animating the swing of a scythe would require both hands to actually connect to the weapon and use it fluidly regardless of model type and size. Same for twirling staves or swinging halberds or whatever.

I'm not sure I can explain it better than that (and I'd love a polearm/staff set) but that's what has come out of previous threads on the topic.