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Just so we're clear:


Good wholesome family entertainment.


Repulsive fetish perpetuated by deranged freaks.

Makes sense now, right?
Yup. Ones made out of humor the other a sick deranged fetish bent on subverting Americas children into its darkly depraved perversion.

And I would disagree with loony toons being "Good wholesome family entertainment."


 

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Will clothing be changed to account for tails? I doubt it.

Is there ANYWHERE in furry/anthro art that actually makes clothing fit the concept of people with tails? All I've seen is a tail attached to the back and dresses or pants are exactly the same as for tailless people. Take that green-skinned (looks more white to me) anthro-girl shown earlier. You don't see the backside, but it looks like the tail might be stuck onto the pants.
Some artists draw holes to allow for the tails, others simply have the trousers (pants to you yanks ) sit so that the tail is above the wasitband/line. (although looking back at some of my older stuff, I've actually fallen foul of that. Curses >_< )

Still on the line wether Tigra and Cheetah actually count as anthros, given they are actually humans that have aquired animal traits one way or another. Although iirc Tigra is linked to a race that are technically anthros...
The line can get confusing at times.


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Some artists draw holes to allow for the tails, others simply have the trousers (pants to you yanks ) sit so that the tail is above the wasitband/line. (although looking back at some of my older stuff, I've actually fallen foul of that. Curses >_< )

Still on the line wether Tigra and Cheetah actually count as anthros, given they are actually humans that have aquired animal traits one way or another. Although iirc Tigra is linked to a race that are technically anthros...
The line can get confusing at times.
Wouldn't the "original" wolverine be the best candidate for an Anthro'?

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Yup. Ones made out of humor the other a sick deranged fetish bent on subverting Americas children into its darkly depraved perversion.
Right... Despite the fact that Bugs Bunny is naked and the anthro girl in the pic isn't?


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Right... Despite the fact that Bugs Bunny is naked and the anthro girl in the pic isn't?
He's a wabbit.


 

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Yup. Ones made out of humor the other a sick deranged fetish bent on subverting Americas children into its darkly depraved perversion.
Oh, please tell me your not being serious.


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Oh, please tell me your not being serious.
You don't agree that bugs bunny is funny?


 

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You know, for all I like that competition is pushing the Devs to add small features that people have been asking for forever, I can't feel but feel sorry for CO. The tiniest advantages they have get yoinked right out from under them like a yoinky thing. What are they going to do now, add five years' worth of well-written missions?




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You know, for all I like that competition is pushing the Devs to add small features that people have been asking for forever, I can't feel but feel sorry for CO. The tiniest advantages they have get yoinked right out from under them like a yoinky thing. What are they going to do now, add five years' worth of well-written missions?
CO still has advantages over CoH. They just aren't advantages the general CoH forum users care for.

Like...different style of play!

And that will continue to be CO's selling point.

Some people also prefere CO's open world. Why people want to see CO crash and burn, doesn't make any sense. Don't like it, fine no problem. But others do enjoy playing CO. And the competition is good for both games.


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You don't agree that bugs bunny is funny?
On the contrary. I just disagree that he isn't sexy.

Oh, but let's go for a much easier target: Warner Bros' Minerva Mink. So what were we saying about WB cartoons?


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CO still has advantages over CoH. They just aren't advantages the general CoH forum users care for.

Like...different style of play!

And that will continue to be CO's selling point.

Some people also prefere CO's open world. Why people want to see CO crash and burn, doesn't make any sense. Don't like it, fine no problem. But others do enjoy playing CO. And the competition is good for both games.
I liked both, until the CO Devs tried to pass off a newzone with a lvl 37-40 mission arc in a game with already BARLY enough content to hit the level cap as a Paid expansion...i wasn't the only one and they hemoraged subscribers and made it free to try and save face but stepped in it again saying "but more paid content WILL come!"

Honestly if CoX were to remove the costume limit, the only thing keeping me on a priferaly with CO for Project Nine Thousand I'd never look back


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I liked both, until the CO Devs tried to pass off a newzone with a lvl 37-40 mission arc in a game with already BARLY enough content to hit the level cap as a Paid expansion...i wasn't the only one and they hemoraged subscribers and made it free to try and save face but stepped in it again saying "but more paid content WILL come!"

Honestly if CoX were to remove the costume limit, the only thing keeping me on a priferaly with CO for Project Nine Thousand I'd never look back
The only advantage CO has over CoX for me...is the ability to make a toon that can fire dual pistols, a fire ball, shield others, and shield itself! Basically, a free form power selection, that I can't have here (though hope they one day implement, or come closer too).

Basically CO will allow the Assault/Defense/Buff+Debuff Epic set I want for an AT here.

Other than that, I prefere CoX's game play, animation/art style, and basically CoX in general over CO.

Hell, for all the talk of CO having better costume creater, I found CO limited you just as much as CoX on costume items! "What do you mean I can't use these gloves with this costume option?! It doesn't make sense! I thought it was suppossed to be better!" was my CO experience. :P


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On the contrary. I just disagree that he isn't sexy.

Oh, but let's go for a much easier target: Warner Bros' Minerva Mink. So what were we saying about WB cartoons?

You find bugs bunny sexy? I don't see the sex appeal but I find bugs quite funny.

OMG, a siloutte of a female anthro undressing. I've never seen that WB episode before, lol.

That is definitely loony.


 

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The only advantage CO has over CoX for me...is the ability to make a toon that can fire dual pistols, a fire ball, shield others, and shield itself! Basically, a free form power selection, that I can't have here (though hope they one day implement, or come closer too).
See, I'm completely the opposite. I HATED the build system in Champions Online. When given too much choice, I end up building the same tank-mage over and over again. By contrast, I'm not really bothered by package classes (outside of a few specific instances), so the increased complexity and danger of gimp doesn't really come with an upside that I can appreciate.


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The only advantage CO has over CoX for me...is the ability to make a toon that can fire dual pistols, a fire ball, shield others, and shield itself! Basically, a free form power selection, that I can't have here (though hope they one day implement, or come closer too).

Basically CO will allow the Assault/Defense/Buff+Debuff Epic set I want for an AT here.

Other than that, I prefere CoX's game play, animation/art style, and basically CoX in general over CO.

Hell, for all the talk of CO having better costume creater, I found CO limited you just as much as CoX on costume items! "What do you mean I can't use these gloves with this costume option?! It doesn't make sense! I thought it was suppossed to be better!" was my CO experience. :P
CO cell-shading gave me massive migraines.

The playability felt very choppy for me and I was reminded of my experiences with WoW. Did not like.


 

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You find bugs bunny sexy? I don't see the sex appeal but I find bugs quite funny.

OMG, a siloutte of a female anthro undressing. I've never seen that WB episode before, lol.

That is definitely loony.
It's not one episode. Minerva is a recurring character that shows up all over the place, and her role is basically an extended Hello Nurse. She's also not part of the loony tunes, but rather a supporting character from the Animaniacs.

Point was to establish precedent. She really isn't the only one, she's just the most easily recognisable. Minerva is basically the Jessica Rabbit of the Animaniacs.

Which actually brings another controversial subject - cartoons and sexappeal. Since cartoons are (wrongly) assumed to be for kinds, cartoon sexiness is assumed to be something weird, and people who enjoy that sort of thing are assumed to be weird, too. After all, how can you swoon over a cartoon instead of harassing real women, right? Stupid conventional wisdom...


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The only advantage CO has over CoX for me...is the ability to make a toon that can fire dual pistols, a fire ball, shield others, and shield itself! Basically, a free form power selection, that I can't have here (though hope they one day implement, or come closer too).

Basically CO will allow the Assault/Defense/Buff+Debuff Epic set I want for an AT here.

Other than that, I prefere CoX's game play, animation/art style, and basically CoX in general over CO.

Hell, for all the talk of CO having better costume creater, I found CO limited you just as much as CoX on costume items! "What do you mean I can't use these gloves with this costume option?! It doesn't make sense! I thought it was suppossed to be better!" was my CO experience. :P
Meh it's not that great, a lot of power are dependent on others to get their best effects

"oh you want fireblast? Well you will need imolation and conflagration to get the best out of Fire Blast!"

but yeah i had the same idea, I even mad a suggestion about it!
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=208815


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CO cell-shading gave me massive migraines.

The playability felt very choppy for me and I was reminded of my experiences with WoW. Did not like.
Not to encourage you to play CO. If you don't like it, you don't like it. Don't play it. I'm not encouraging anyone to play CO. I just don't think people should be hoping it crash and burns.

That said, the cell shading could be turned off.

Me, I didn't like the art style they used.

CoX's art style feels really comic book style to me. While CO felt more "comic book style, but not taken seriously, so made to look way to cartoony" to me.


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Meh it's not that great, a lot of power are dependent on others to get their best effects

"oh you want fireblast? Well you will need imolation and conflagration to get the best out of Fire Blast!"

but yeah i had the same idea, I even mad a suggestion about it!
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=208815
For the little bit of time I played CO, I didn't care about the effectiness, you could still make a playable toon, even if it wasn't the min/maxed best!

Yes, the majority of players are going to flock to the min/max build. Me, I just stuck with the concept power picks, and did fine. I stopped playing though as my old computer kept getting mapserved off, for some reason. I think the computer was just to old to play it. And havent bothered to re install CO on my new one (yet...I'll check it out again at some point, since I bought the lifetime sub, and still don't regret it even if I've played it for a total of a month's time at most).


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CoX's art style feels really comic book style to me. While CO felt more "comic book style, but not taken seriously, so made to look way to cartoony" to me.
If I have to pick one and only one reason I don't play Champions Online, I'd have to go with style. That game is UGLY. Sure, it has good graphics, but its style is just insulting. Character models look like they were ripped from The Incredibles (and that's not what I look for in a serious game), locations and villains were corny and costume details looked like they were designed for little children to gawk at, with nary a nod to style and dignity. The whole game is one giant caricature.

While I have nothing against people who like that sort of style, even though they should be ashamed of themselves, I just can't play it. I can't take the game seriously, it can't take itself seriously and all the glaring colours and lack of textures just hurt my senses.


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If I have to pick one and only one reason I don't play Champions Online, I'd have to go with style. That game is UGLY. Sure, it has good graphics, but its style is just insulting. Character models look like they were ripped from The Incredibles (and that's not what I look for in a serious game), locations and villains were corny and costume details looked like they were designed for little children to gawk at, with nary a nod to style and dignity. The whole game is one giant caricature.

While I have nothing against people who like that sort of style, even though they should be ashamed of themselves, I just can't play it. I can't take the game seriously, it can't take itself seriously and all the glaring colours and lack of textures just hurt my senses.
+I can't say I've ever seen any art style actually hurt my eyes...but agreed. I just didn't like the art syle, and if I don't like the art style, I won't stay with a game all that long.

Of course that said, I can like the art style, but hate how the game plays (WoW fits this bill) just as much. :P


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Will clothing be changed to account for tails? I doubt it.

Is there ANYWHERE in furry/anthro art that actually makes clothing fit the concept of people with tails? All I've seen is a tail attached to the back and dresses or pants are exactly the same as for tailless people. Take that green-skinned (looks more white to me) anthro-girl shown earlier. You don't see the backside, but it looks like the tail might be stuck onto the pants.
This is actually addressed in one webcomic that I know of--Dan and Mab's Furry Adventures. Somewhere on the site (I forget where), there is a diagram showing how jeans work with tails--basically, there's a gap in the waist for the tail, and a flap that closes over it and buttons down.

The comic also lampshades the "furry=deviant" foolishness at one point with a character who's a fangirl of humans. She points out that she's not attracted to humans, just fascinated by them.


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I'm hoping the animated tails are just the begining of more animal related costumes. My minotaur would really like a bull head and I have ideas for a cow and a parrot. I just need the right parts.


 

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I'm hoping the animated tails are just the begining of more animal related costumes. My minotaur would really like a bull head and I have ideas for a cow and a parrot. I just need the right parts.
One only hopes. The animal bits we have right now are old and intentionally ugly (monstrous, one might say). And as much as I like the Xtreme Overbite head or the Serious Claws feet, some more... Appealing pieces might be in order. The Dragon head is a good example, as despite being way monstrous, it does the monster thing with style, panache and a seriously toothy grin. A few less aggressive and more animalistic heads would be in order, as well as paw feet at the very least. We have cloven scaly feet, but we don't have any feet that match the family of animals that cats, dogs, rabbits and such belong to. We do have bovine hooves, but being able to put patterns on them would be nice, too. And being able to put patterns with skin on upper legs with hoofed feet, too.

Basically, if the tails are as good as people expect they will be, we'll see a lot of renewed interest in animal parts and characters.


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One only hopes. The animal bits we have right now are old and intentionally ugly (monstrous, one might say). And as much as I like the Xtreme Overbite head or the Serious Claws feet, some more... Appealing pieces might be in order. The Dragon head is a good example, as despite being way monstrous, it does the monster thing with style, panache and a seriously toothy grin. A few less aggressive and more animalistic heads would be in order, as well as paw feet at the very least. We have cloven scaly feet, but we don't have any feet that match the family of animals that cats, dogs, rabbits and such belong to. We do have bovine hooves, but being able to put patterns on them would be nice, too. And being able to put patterns with skin on upper legs with hoofed feet, too.

Basically, if the tails are as good as people expect they will be, we'll see a lot of renewed interest in animal parts and characters.
Maybe Nala, 5 years later, can finally look like a red cat glowing in black pulsating mystic runes?


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