Feature Update Issue 17 - Dark Mirror


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http://www.cityofheroes.com/news/new...and_going.html

I was reading along, hum tee tum . . . until . . .
"Epic Archetypes now available at level 20"

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My jaw dropped.



THANK YOU! Oh, how I've waited for (something like) this! Coming up to six years I've had an account, and the only place I got to try Epic Archetypes were on the Test Server with the help of a level 50 bump.

I am immensely pleased with this announcement.


 

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I'm pleased myself.

I had to force myself to play to 50 on four characters (2 heroes, 2 villains x 2 accounts) to unlock these. I really don't care too much for the game levels 40-50. I'm glad other people won't need to do that to try these out.

Personally, my feelings wouldn't be hurt if they removed the unlock and made these available to all players at all levels.


 

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A very good choice, IMO. It took me so. Damn. Long. to get those EATs.
Im happy that others wont have to repeat my painful journey.


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NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

 

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Not exactly "epic" if you get them at 20 with the leveling curve we have now. Why not just open them at the start if it will be that soon?


 

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Not exactly "epic" if you get them at 20 with the leveling curve we have now. Why not just open them at the start if it will be that soon?
Here's my guess: so that players who are brand new to the game won't have them open.

The reason I suspect that's an issue is because all of the tutorial information is geared towards non-Kheldian players. Plus, flight and teleportation mechanics is a lot to take in when you are literally on day one. This way, someone has to be in the game at least a few hours and learn the basics of how to move around, target stuff, etc. before deciding to take on one of the more conceptually difficult archetypes in the game.


We've been saving Paragon City for eight and a half years. It's time to do it one more time.
(If you love this game as much as I do, please read that post.)

 

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Hmmm, no hints at what the new Content will be.


Having Vengeance and Fallout slotted for recharge means never having to say you're sorry.

 

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IBPBAHATWWJNAHTIJASITF*










*In Before People ******** About How All Their Work Was Just Nullified And How This Is Just Another Slap In The Face.


 

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Not exactly "epic" if you get them at 20 with the leveling curve we have now. Why not just open them at the start if it will be that soon?
I think it might be connected to the 1-20 content in GR in some way.


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IBPBAHATWWJNAHTIJASITF*










*In Before People ******** About How All Their Work Was Just Nullified And How This Is Just Another Slap In The Face.
City of Entitlement: Face Slap Edition


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Not exactly "epic" if you get them at 20 with the leveling curve we have now. Why not just open them at the start if it will be that soon?
The official reason for calling the "epic" is because the Epic Archetypes are tied to the plot of CoH/V. Hell, most people would argue that Kheldians aren't epic at all.

And as others in other threads have mentioned, the devs repeatedly said that making them unlockable at 50 is a mistake, and this is merely fixing said mistake.

CoH is a very accessible game for new players and team players. Making EATs unlockable earlier only fits that theme.


 

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City of Entitlement: Face Slap Edition
We really need a face slap emote.


 

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We really need a face slap emote.
We already have 3 - a slap, a smack, and a threatening to smak one


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We already have 3 - a slap, a smack, and a threatening to smak one
Yeah, but not a "[Censored], my man aint yo baby's daddy!" one or a "Oh gods, how dare the Dev's not act specifically according to my capricious and oft-changing thoughts on how the game should be run! YOU JUST MARRIED MY DAD FOR THE MONEY! I'M GOING TO CO'S HOUSE! *Runs off crying*" one.


 

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Here's what I'm really concerned with:

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You will also be able to get your hands on an exclusive item pack if you get the City of Heroes Going Rogue: Complete Collection (MSRP $39.99 USD), that will be available when Going Rogue releases in July! What's in that item pack, you ask?
If this edition is a boxed set, then I CANNOT BUY IT. It's physically impossible for me to do so, as American retailers won't deliver to the butt end of Eastern Europe and I won't get a version of the thing compatible with my US game, even if I could actually FIND a game box in any store whatsoever. This concerns me greatly, as I very much do want the in-game times.

I sincerely hope that either they will release an in-game item pack separate from the full package game, or will release the game package on their online store. Because if they do neither, then things will become incredibly complicated and uncomfortable for me. I don't care about physical goodies like disks, manuals, figurines or all the assorted crap that comes with a boxed set (I have my CoH and CoV stuff filed away in a box I never open), but I very much want the item pack.

And I'm continually disappointed about preorder googies, as I know for a fact I won't be able to preorder online. Does not happen, will not happen. I don't know why that is, but that has always been the fact. Which presents the same problem - I want to preorder and have a go at the early advent of the sets, but I can't, thanks to locality. At least in that respect I'm not completely boned. Even if I don't preorder, I'll still get "the stuff" eventually when the expansion launches. This is more of an inconvenience than a practical concern, as I'm a patient man.

I'm not really excited about the rest of the announcement, as it basically says "Yes, there are more things coming." I kind of already knew that. It's comforting to know I17 will launch before Going Rogue, but we kind of already knew that, too. So while the announcement is much appreciated and I hope it will keep the "Where's mah GR info!?!" threads down for a days, it doesn't really say much, does it?


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Here's what I'm really concerned with:
I sincerely hope that either they will release an in-game item pack separate from the full package game, or will release the game package on their online store. Because if they do neither, then things will become incredibly complicated and uncomfortable for me. I don't care about physical goodies like disks, manuals, figurines or all the assorted crap that comes with a boxed set (I have my CoH and CoV stuff filed away in a box I never open), but I very much want the item pack.
Well, considering Paragon Studio's track record, it seems extremely unlikely they won't release a GR item-pack. I see no need to worry about that just yet.


 

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Well, considering Paragon Studio's track record, it seems extremely unlikely they won't release a GR item-pack. I see no need to worry about that just yet.
It's never too early to worry Besides, I still take grief over the City of Heroes Special Edition DVD, which only ever existed on DVD and has had its sale discontinued as far as I'm aware. A friend of mine offered to grab me one from a store or Ebay or whatever he had handy, send me over the key code and keep the goodies for himself. I'd have agreed, too, but I don't know how peer to peer money transfers work over the 'net, and I tend to be very cautious about what I do with my credit information.

Besides, it's either worry about this or speculate about a generic "more of everything."

Though, here's something else that has me worried - there's no talk of proliferation, and all we know about Going Rogue powerset-wise is Dual Pistols and Demon Summoning, which is all they keep discussing and all they'll be testing. Is that really all the new powerset-related additions we'll be getting with I17 and/or Going Rogue? What about another round of proliferation? What about more new sets? Obviously, it's too early in the game to comment on that, but I've not so much as seen a hint that anything else is even being worked on and all the info we've ever gotten has been concerning these two sets.

I'm not really that judgemental on new sets, to be honest. But I DO believe we're about due for another set of proliferation, and I'm eyeing up either Super Strength or the Axe/Mace combo jumping AT divides some time soonish.

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Oh, and hey - if we're unlocking Epic ATs earlier, can we possibly look into releasing unlockable contacts to the general population without the badge hassle?


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Well, there was talk about Electricity Control, so maybe that'll come with I17? My guess is Dual Pistols and Demon Summoning get special attention because they're unique among powersets, kinda like how Dual Blades has the whole combo thing going?

And yes, being able to do Viridian without a horrible grindfest first would be so many kinds of awesome. When they changed badge requirements in I15, it rather irked me that all the badges required for Viridian stayed the same.


 

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ARGH!!! Why does my computer have to be so crappy!?!?!?


 

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We need an emote that makes BAB appear in front of you and back hand you.


 

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*In Before People ******** About How All Their Work Was Just Nullified And How This Is Just Another Slap In The Face.
Oh, so now you're entitled to find people with entitlement issues?!


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It's never too early to worry Besides, I still take grief over the City of Heroes Special Edition DVD, which only ever existed on DVD and has had its sale discontinued as far as I'm aware. A friend of mine offered to grab me one from a store or Ebay or whatever he had handy, send me over the key code and keep the goodies for himself. I'd have agreed, too, but I don't know how peer to peer money transfers work over the 'net, and I tend to be very cautious about what I do with my credit information.
So... what your saying is that you want the City of Heroes DVD edition special code, but don't have the ability to buy it?


 

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Oh, so now you're entitled to find people with entitlement issues?!
It's a slap in the face, isn't it?


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Oh, so now you're entitled to find people with entitlement issues?!


 

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So... what your saying is that you want the City of Heroes DVD edition special code, but don't have the ability to buy it?
Yes. If I'm not mistaken, that's the one that came with Prestige Power Slide, which I actually really need for a specific Scrapper of mine, but can't get. Money really isn't an issue with this one, at least unless it's something like $80, it's just the fact that I can't buy it anywhere that bothers me. If it were up in the PlayNC store, I'd buy it, but it isn't. I'm not sure whether that's because it was supposed to be a limited-time offer or whatever, but it kind of bugs me.


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