Is it worth it to start up?


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Hey guys and gals,

I've been playing MMO's for years, from WoW, Guildwars, Warhammer and now to Aion and LOTRO. I like the graphics of Aion but absolutely hate the grind of Aion after level 25.

So my question is this.... Is it worthwhile to start playing a game where people have been playing for months or even years. In LOTRO when I started a new account, I realized that there were no players the newbie zones and that meant that there were no players to group with in instances.

If I start playing this game am I going to be running solo until I get to a high level?

Any ideas?

Thanks


 

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As a long-time vet and real-life friend of someone who started up just 2 months ago I'd say YES.

People old and new are constantly rolling new characters, so I don't think you'll have too many problems finding teams (especially in Atlas Park). I'd recommend rolling a character on Freedom or Virtue servers to get the highest population.

The learning curve isn't too steep in this game and the community is quite friendly. With the way the devs have smoothed out the XP curve later in the game it's not such a grind either. And the "loot" portion of this game is totally optional...so that shouldn't be a huge concern in the beginning.

Feel free to PM me and I'll get you my ingame global. I'd be happy to show you around and team up with you on one of my lowbies.


 

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Yes it is. CoH is a game that really encourages having lots and lots of alts, I have 6 which is EXTREMLY low, it's not uncommon to find people who have used all of their slots (36) on one or more servers.

Consequently there tends to be people of all levels on at all times. Additionally the sidekicking system means that teams can cover a pretty wide level range without anyone feeling useless. Once you hit the mid-20s you generally have most of the key powers for your character and can team reasonably effectively with level 50s if you want to.

You can find teams on any server and any side but Freedom and Virtue have the highest populations and Heroside is significantly more populated than Villainside so playing a Hero on Freedom or Virtue will make it easier.

In any case, welcome to the game.

EDIT: Also, unlike several of the other games on this game is about the journey, not the destination. While there is plenty to do at level 50 there isn't the raid progression style gameplay that other MMOs have so don't feel that you have to rush to 50 before you can start playing.

EDIT2: Also, something to keep in mind is that this game does not really follow the "Holy Trinity" style group play that other MMOs do. While this style of play does work it is not the only (or even the best) way to run a group.


 

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Other MMORPGs are to City of Heroes what Kansas was to Oz.


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As stated, CoH is an unusual game in that it has active players in all level ranges. The only thing vets have the new players don't is the veteran rewards which you can definitely get by without.


 

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CoH is very alt-focused, so there are constantly people making new characters and levelling up. Since in this game high-level characters can play low-level content and get rewards, there's teaming action across a wide level spread.

If you prefer playing in a high-population environment, of the US servers, Freedom and Virtue are the two most populated, and Justice is the predominant Aussie server, although there's significant populations across all of them. Heroes tend to be more crowded than Villains (heroside, there's a nice chain of high-population lowbie zones from Atlas Park > King's Row > Steel Canyon > Talos island).

Since CoH is highly instanced, chances are even on a high-population server you may not see large crowds of players standing about and it's unusual to see players fighting spawns in zones like you would in a fantasy MMO. Most of the community is centered around supergroups (guilds) and global channels. You can find information on what channels there are for each server in their respective server forums.

Please be cautioned that this community is very touchy about suggestions that the game (or indeed any server) has a low or dwindling population.


 

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Pretty much what everyone has said. The game is full of experienced players with alts at all sorts of levels.

This is not a get to the level cap and grind game (unless you want it to be).

Check the guide to guides for how best to find teams and join an active global channel on your server.

See you in game!



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Welcome to City of Heroes, the home of altitis. You will always find newbies here to team with. And even high level groups aren't so bad to join, given the Sidekick system.

I will say that it is probably still best to solo from levels 1 to 10. You can probably do that in a day, though, and I just do it because it's easier. You might be able to find an SG that often starts new characters together and levels them up through the early levels. Or even get a PuG if that's what you enjoy.

Honestly, whether you solo or group, from 1 to 10 your experience and power picks should be pretty much the same. Wait until 10 to 20 to start working on your team role.

(BTW, just to give you an idea of the numbers, I have 17 main alts, all over level 30. Overall the number of characters I actually play, of whatever level, is probably around 30 or more. I have at least 12 characters on both Virtue and Pinnacle)


 

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Originally Posted by neheshalom View Post
Hey guys and gals,

I've been playing MMO's for years, from WoW, Guildwars, Warhammer and now to Aion and LOTRO. I like the graphics of Aion but absolutely hate the grind of Aion after level 25.

So my question is this.... Is it worthwhile to start playing a game where people have been playing for months or even years. In LOTRO when I started a new account, I realized that there were no players the newbie zones and that meant that there were no players to group with in instances.

If I start playing this game am I going to be running solo until I get to a high level?

Any ideas?

Thanks
This is a good time to start playing. In the upcoming months they will be releasing a brand new paid expansion called "Going Rogue" and everyone will be making new characters so they can experience the new stuff from the ground up. Theres gonna be new zones, new graphics, new character archetypes, new content, and the ability for villains to redeem themselves and become heros, and heros to fall from grace and become villains.

This is going to be a very exciting year to play CoH.


 

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Since CoH is highly instanced, chances are even on a high-population server you may not see large crowds of players standing about and it's unusual to see players fighting spawns in zones like you would in a fantasy MMO.
This is also a good point. At first glance it may seem like the game is empty. (Although often Atlas Park can seem awfully crowded ) The best way to find teams is to set your "Looking For Team" selector, first of all, and also to chat in the Broadcast channel. Finding a good SG can be a big help, as with all MMOs.


 

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One thing about CoH that you'll want to know as a new player is that there is no reason to rush to level 50.

I know in a lot of other games, such as WoW, the high-end raids at the level cap are considered to be the meat of the game itself, with the grind to 70 or 80 or wherever they are now being the time you spend learning to play that character class.

In City of Heroes, there is a lot of content from 1 to 50, but there is actually nothing that is specifically "level 50s only" (yet). So take your time and enjoy the ride.


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This is also a good point. At first glance it may seem like the game is empty. (Although often Atlas Park can seem awfully crowded ) The best way to find teams is to set your "Looking For Team" selector, first of all, and also to chat in the Broadcast channel. Finding a good SG can be a big help, as with all MMOs.
Although if you're on a trial you can't use broadcast and send tells. You're best bet is to set your flag and for your comment say something like "Trial Account, cannot respond to tells"


 

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In City of Heroes, there is a lot of content from 1 to 50, but there is actually nothing that is specifically "level 50s only" (yet). So take your time and enjoy the ride.
Actually... there are a few things. Hami raids are for levels 45-50 only. These and Rikti Mothership raids are the only regular multi-team raid events like you might commonly see in other games. Rikti invasions, zombie invasions, "Supernatural Activity" banner invasions, and giant monster fights are the only other things I can think of that might involve multiple groups (and especially Lusca the giant octopus which kind of requires a mini-raid to take down).

There are some task forces that are for levels 45-50 as well... but the main point is, you don't get to 50 and then spend the rest of your life raiding like in many other MMOs. On the other hand, at 50 all parts of the game are open to you. You can run any task force, join any mission team, run nearly any mission solo through Ourobos... and while you aren't constantly upgrading your gear, you can work towards perfecting your build with IOs and work towards badges and accolades. It's not that there's nothing to do at level 50, there's plenty that you can do.

With all the people talking about journey not destination, I'm not sure if anyone answered the underlying question, but there is NO level grinding in this game. Leveling is easy at any level. Grinding for influence or badges or recipe drops, on the other hand, is up to you... but you can get to 50 first. ^_^



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Absolutely it's worth it to start this game right now!

In addition to the fact that there are vets starting new characters all the time, I know I have seen (anecdotally) at least a half dozen threads from new folks with questions and ideas show up in the past week alone.

Personally, I have 60+ alts (I'm still a bit of an amateur at it, ) ranging from level 1 (saving a name where the character hasn't quite jelled yet) up to level 50, with the majority of them between 20-35 or thereabouts.

So come on in, the water's fine


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... there is actually nothing that is specifically "level 50s only" (yet). ...
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Actually... there are a few things. ...
Actually, all those things you listed are (some level)-50. You can do them even if you don't have a level 50. Chad said "level 50 only". There is only TWO THINGS that ONLY people with level 50s can do:

1. Slot "purples" (Very Rare enhancements)
2. Create EATs (Epic Archetypes)


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You can run any task force, join any mission team, run nearly any mission solo through Ourobos... and while you aren't constantly upgrading your gear, you can work towards perfecting your build with IOs and work towards badges and accolades. It's not that there's nothing to do at level 50, there's plenty that you can do.
I think the thing is, the devs have worked at trying to provide some content for 50s, whether raids or otherwise. But that doesn't stop someone who HAS a 50 from starting a new level 1 and enjoying the trek from 1-10, 20-30, or any other range just as much as the first time. Which says more about the non-50 content than it does about the 50 content.

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Actually, all those things you listed are (some level)-50. You can do them even if you don't have a level 50. Chad said "level 50 only". There is only TWO THINGS that ONLY people with level 50s can do:
True, but that (some level) is usually 35 or 45. You can't get into Cimerora until 35, and while you can get into the Rikti War Zone at level 1, most of the content is 35 up, and the raid you pretty much need to be 45. Plus, most of the final Task Forces require you to be 45.

I think it would be truthful to say that the end game content is for 45-50 in this game, not 50s exclusively. Which actually makes levelling from 45 to 50 much less of a grind. And again, Sidekicking really makes it easier to get a feel for the higher level content, even if you can't really contribute as well as others yet.


 

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After 2+ years I still play probably 50-60% of my time on toons from lvl 1-10, so yeah there's lots of low level activity in this game.


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I know I have seen (anecdotally) at least a half dozen threads from new folks with questions and ideas show up in the past week alone.

I thought it was just me noticing this...I've seen more posts by truely new players in the past few weeks than I have in quite a while.

It could just be a statistical anomaly, but I swear we're seeing a real uptick in newcomers at the moment.

OP, I'll just QFT everything above regarding alt-itis, "it's the journey, not the destination", newb-friendly Vets all ovah the place, etc.

C'mon n be heroic for a while, it's FUN!


 

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Other MMORPGs are to City of Heroes what Kansas was to Oz.
We're filled with witches, monkeys flying out of your %%**, lying "wizards" and midgets?

I think you have the metaphor backwards.


 

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with my level 50s, at least half the game is "exemplaring" back down to lower levels to do lower level taskforces.

You'll want to learn about and join global channels to help you find groups.


 

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We're filled with witches, monkeys flying out of your %%**, lying "wizards" and midgets?
Sounds about right.


 

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We're filled with witches, monkeys flying out of your %%**, lying "wizards" and midgets?

I think you have the metaphor backwards.
Hmm...

Witches; much of croatoa & magic bous pack...
Monkeys; Well, they're either on fire, have a bad case of gas, or are betted on in a cage match that is probably only legal because it occurs in another dimention... (and I'm not sure who, beyond PETA, would argue in favour of the of the little mutants in a cruelty to animals case)
lying "wizards"; ok, you've stumped me here...
midgets; We have our fair share of min-height heroes/villains.


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We're filled with witches, monkeys flying out of your %%**, lying "wizards" and midgets?

I think you have the metaphor backwards.
id say that that is pretty much croatoa


anyhow, to answer the question, yes, come join us, we have a system where players can play with each other, even with disparate levels, a high level character can power down and play with you, and get a few slight benefits for doing so, and people can also power you up to play with them. so and yeah, i'm not sure what the average number of alts per player is, but i have over 60, and im not considered a heavy alt-player, so you will have people to play with.

one caveat, consider that given the heavily instanced nature of the game, people will often not respond if you just stand outside yelling lft, because they will be inside missions and wont see it. . pick a server, go to its sub forum,and find out what the teaming channels are. coh players tend to be friendly, and also realize the pragmatic truth that the community that shuns new members dies off , so you will find an open, welcoming and especially goofy group on most servers, particularly liberty, where a certain bat-nuts insane poster hangs out.


 

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I have no less than 4 toons I'm thinking of creating when Going Rogue hits (for some reason, I'm really stoked for dual pistols).

I'm always coming up with names for "my next toon", only about a fifth of which I ever use.

I have only 2 fifties, four forties, 6 or so thirties, same number of twenties, teens and single digit-level toons.

I play across them all depending on what mood I'm in (altho I rarely ever touch my fifties).

No need to worry about "too many vets".