Here comes the annual request again
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Posted on: 2010-01-13 22:25 in Suggestions and Ideas
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Originally Posted by Lonelyshade
paying for a powerset makes income .
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No NO HELL NO.
Okay, a few costumes, and one or two little nothing temp powers? Fine. Cool. Great.
Entire power sets being available À la carte? That's just a bit too much.
Asking people to do without optional costumes and neat little single powers I can deal with. None of them (with the possible exception of Ninja Run) are game-changing. Asking them to do without whole power sets simply because they can't or won't cough up $10-20? Completely inequitable.
ESPECIALLY if it's not balanced like the rest are.
Moreover, how EXACTLY do you expect such a power set to be "PVE only"?
You are now booked on the Failtanic.
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It's also a completely ridiculous idea for the inumerable reasons offered in response to threads like this that have been started since time began.|
Originally Posted by Lonelyshade
paying for a powerset makes income .
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I second all the /facepalming
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Originally Posted by Solicio
...this idea is really crappy, and all you're doing is spreading the crap with your hands.
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Originally Posted by Lonelyshade
Dual wielding pistol scrappers brutes stalkers ... or just a new class itself.
But with a twist :P Make it a booster class buyable , thats not pvpable only pve perspectief. Since its a buyable class , it shouldn´t conflict with so much balance issues . And everybody can get it if they really want it . Come on with the new terrific ninjarun booster travel power . You can count the money people paid for that one :P Its time to earn some more profit into Dual Wielding Pistol scrappers ... The Architect Entertainement makes choosing powers easy for npc . Shouldn´t be so long before you can apply it to make a dual wield pistol scrapper or brute or stalker .. Thank you for reading the annual request . and offcourse i will have tons of No . But it would be nice again to see developers do something different with a booster pack . Booster class ^^ Ah well if the idea is already used for going rogue . Then when is going rogue coming ? |
it's called Going Rogue
it's a game expansion
it'll be paid for content
you'll have to wait for it like everyone else
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Hey Lonelyshade:
Your idea sucks a lot, but I think it's awesome that you type in stanza. 
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Originally Posted by CaffeineAddict
To the OP - suggesting stuff is good and I welcome that.
However, melee archetypes fight, in, well, melee. As in arms length. Not ranged. If you really want to play ranged and with weapons, try a blaster, defender, corrupter, mastermind or spider. I notice you really seem to want defense as a secondary. If so, roll a spider (villain epic) they have nice defense powers to boot. If however you continue to insist on scrappers with guns, then I will agree with Techbot Alpha, and raise the facepalm, in that this thread will need even more facepalm. So here you go.  |
Still...kudos for getting through ALL the decent facepalms
Except my new standard facepalm response;
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.
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I just wanted to point out the irony of everyone posting "no" in this thread with the LOYALIST sig image, which features... a character with Dual Pistols.
(Yes, I know he's going to be a blaster. Even though he looks like, at the least, a blapper.)
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*Shoots at Megajoule with dual pistols from 50 feet away*
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Originally Posted by CaffeineAddict
To the OP - suggesting stuff is good and I welcome that.
However, melee archetypes fight, in, well, melee. As in arms length. Not ranged. If you really want to play ranged and with weapons, try a blaster, defender, corrupter, mastermind or spider. I notice you really seem to want defense as a secondary. If so, roll a spider (villain epic) they have nice defense powers to boot. If however you continue to insist on scrappers with guns, then I will agree with Techbot Alpha, and raise the facepalm, in that this thread will need even more facepalm. So here you go. MUCH MORE FACE PALM: <snip> |
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Originally Posted by Megajoule
I just wanted to point out the irony of everyone posting "no" in this thread with the LOYALIST sig image, which features... a character with Dual Pistols.
(Yes, I know he's going to be a blaster. Even though he looks like, at the least, a blapper.) |
They want melee pistols, I'LL have the ammo, thanks.
And promptly shoot them with it
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.
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Okay now I'm just following Techbot around doing this. But given the epic nature of the face palms in this thread:
50s - Energyman, Elec^3 Blaster - Light Bringer Prime, Triform PB - OxyStorm, Robo/Storm/Mace MM - Widow Lotone, NW - Psi-Vox, Ill/FF/Earth Control
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Originally Posted by CaffeineAddict
[Facepalm Barrage!]
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An AT that combines ranged or assault sets with defense is an interesting idea, but just slapping pistols on scrappers and then charging for it? Very no.
There are no words to express how incredibly un-thought out this idea is, so Sam the American Eagle will do it for me:
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Originally Posted by Back Alley Brawler
Did you just use "casual gamer" and "purpled-out warshade" in the same sentence?
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Hmmm...let's see...
Rogue: Ranged/Defense AT
Hit Points: Low (Same as Defenders/Controllers/Dominators: Base - 1017.4 Max - 1606.4)
Damage: High (Lower than Blasters, Higher than Corrupters)
Inherent: Sneaky (Crit from hide)
Primary: Ranged Attacks (Remove Snipe Power or Mez Power if no Snipe for Placate)
Secondary: Same as Stalkers (Which may mean no shields!)
Epics Layout:
41 Melee Attack (Med-High Damage Single Target Attack)
41 Target Ally Buff (+5.65% All Defense or +7.5% All Resist or +25% Rec/Rch ...which one it is, would depend on the set)
44 Single Target Immobilize (which immobilize would depend on theme of Epic Pool)
44 Single Target Hold (same as Immobilize)
47 Enemy Debuff (-Resist, -Defense, -Speed/Rch, -toHit, -Regen, -Damage...theme of Epic Pool set, would determine which Debuffs)
...With the Stalkers original Crit from Hide as the only inherent, they would need to either rehide (after 8 seconds of not being hit or not hitting anyone themselves), or use Placate. However, one has to remember, Placate has a range of 50ft (3 lvl 50 Range IOs get it's to just under 80ft).
So, they can't stay at 80ft range to Placate. I'd even encourage lowering the range, so when slotted with Range IOs, it only gets about 40-50ft max. Why? If they want the crit, it forces them to stay closer and not at max range (thus relying on their Defense set to cover their low HP).
Another idea for the AT is give Scourage style crits in addition to Crit from Hide, with High Threat rating on the attacks. Not more than a Brute or Tankers...but enough that if the enemy is hit by a Blaster attack and the same one used by the Rogue, it would aggro on the Rogue.
Maybe a low duration taunt on all attacks. You're no Tank, but oooh how the enemy likes to treat you like one when one isn't around.
Why no snipe? You're able to hide, and shoot from range to land a crit. Pick an attack, that's your snipe. :P
With Stalker Secondaries, the AT loses out on Quick Recovery, and has to get into Melee to use the other +END powers.
Now one could say they could softcap a defense set, and survive in Melee. True. But a few lucky hits, and it's lights out.
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I love this thread... So much...
I'd like to throw my name hhere among those that believe the absolute farthest this idea should go is an Ancilliary Pool, since it's where the melee ATs go now for ranged attacks.
That means there's only five powers in the pool, with only four accessible, and only two are even actual ranged attacks, probably Single Shot and Empty Clips from the Thugs power set. Mix in a couple powers from the Body and Weapon Mastery and you've got a Power Pool. Maybe, and that's depending on what the Scrapper/Tanker AT mod for debuff powers is, Surveilance.
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Range/Armour AT I will beg for till I or, more likely someone else, dies. Because, see, thats a decent idea.|
Originally Posted by BrandX
Hmmm...let's see...
Rogue: Ranged/Defense AT Hit Points: Low (Same as Defenders/Controllers/Dominators: Base - 1017.4 Max - 1606.4) Damage: High (Lower than Blasters, Higher than Corrupters) Inherent: Sneaky (Crit from hide) Primary: Ranged Attacks (Remove Snipe Power or Mez Power if no Snipe for Placate) Secondary: Same as Stalkers (Which may mean no shields!) Epics Layout: 41 Melee Attack (Med-High Damage Single Target Attack) 41 Target Ally Buff (+5.65% All Defense or +7.5% All Resist or +25% Rec/Rch ...which one it is, would depend on the set) 44 Single Target Immobilize (which immobilize would depend on theme of Epic Pool) 44 Single Target Hold (same as Immobilize) 47 Enemy Debuff (-Resist, -Defense, -Speed/Rch, -toHit, -Regen, -Damage...theme of Epic Pool set, would determine which Debuffs) ...With the Stalkers original Crit from Hide as the only inherent, they would need to either rehide (after 8 seconds of not being hit or not hitting anyone themselves), or use Placate. However, one has to remember, Placate has a range of 50ft (3 lvl 50 Range IOs get it's to just under 80ft). So, they can't stay at 80ft range to Placate. I'd even encourage lowering the range, so when slotted with Range IOs, it only gets about 40-50ft max. Why? If they want the crit, it forces them to stay closer and not at max range (thus relying on their Defense set to cover their low HP). Another idea for the AT is give Scourage style crits in addition to Crit from Hide, with High Threat rating on the attacks. Not more than a Brute or Tankers...but enough that if the enemy is hit by a Blaster attack and the same one used by the Rogue, it would aggro on the Rogue. Maybe a low duration taunt on all attacks. You're no Tank, but oooh how the enemy likes to treat you like one when one isn't around. Why no snipe? You're able to hide, and shoot from range to land a crit. Pick an attack, that's your snipe. :P With Stalker Secondaries, the AT loses out on Quick Recovery, and has to get into Melee to use the other +END powers. Now one could say they could softcap a defense set, and survive in Melee. True. But a few lucky hits, and it's lights out. |
Melee AT with pistols? Baaad idea.
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.
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Well, I've stopped trying to get Dual Pistols for scrappers. :P Now, I just ask for a Ranged/Defense AT.
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Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
Range/Armour AT I will beg for till I or, more likely someone else, dies. Because, see, thats a decent idea.
Melee AT with pistols? Baaad idea. |
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Originally Posted by Energyman
Okay now I'm just following Techbot around doing this. But given the epic nature of the face palms in this thread:
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I'll go you one better on this.
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See, Ranged/Armour I think would make a decent AT, not only idea wise. Concept wise you have, say, DP/SR (Matrix style, gun-kata, Ghost in the Shell, etc), or Energy Blast/Invul or something (PPD Shell, etc)|
Originally Posted by BrandX
Well, I've stopped trying to get Dual Pistols for scrappers. :P Now, I just ask for a Ranged/Defense AT.
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Yes it would need balancing, but so does and did every other AT. Hell, we even have the current EATs, although they are more a mix of multiple things (PBs have heals, ranged/melee, WS's have ranged/control, VEATs have Ranged/Melee/Buffs)
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.
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This might be the worst suggestion ever.
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Originally Posted by Hyperstrike
You are now booked on the Failtanic.
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Originally Posted by Shard_Warrior
I second all the /facepalming
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Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
DAMN YOU!
Still...kudos for getting through ALL the decent facepalms |
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Originally Posted by ReclusesPhantom
You have officially won the forums
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They might as well add chickens to the game, and, give them guns. Could be the new epic archetype. Except the chickens also have eggs that they can use as artillery, and, to taunt you with. Bu-cawk!
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Originally Posted by ArcticFahx
There are no words to express how incredibly un-thought out this idea is, so Sam the American Eagle will do it for me:
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
I was thrilled with the Science pack cuz I finally got payback on the creepy guy that kept trying to ERP with my tween heroine, by hitting the costume change and turning into a 10' tall monstrous escaped prisoner and telling him, "You gots a real purty mouf, now bendover and squeal like a pig fo yo daddy, cuz you my little puppy now!" Haven't seen him since.
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To the OP:
No . . . . just no.
The pictures in this thread have said enough.
Blazara Aura LVL 50 Fire/Psi Dom (with 125% recharge)
Flameboxer Aura LVL 50 SS/Fire Brute
Ice 'Em Aura LVL 50 Ice Tank
Darq Widow Fortune LVL 50 Fortunata (200% rech/Night Widow 192.5% rech)--thanks issue 19!
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Originally Posted by Lonelyshade
Dual wielding pistol scrappers brutes stalkers ... or just a new class itself.
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Originally Posted by Lonelyshade
But with a twist :P
Make it a booster class buyable , thats not pvpable only pve perspectief. Since its a buyable class , it shouldn´t conflict with so much balance issues . |
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Originally Posted by Lonelyshade
Thank you for reading the annual request . and offcourse i will have tons of No .
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Originally Posted by Lonelyshade
But it would be nice again to see developers do something different with a booster pack .
Booster class ^^ |
Triumph: White Succubus: 50 Ill/Emp/PF Snow Globe: 50 Ice/FF/Ice Strobe: 50 PB Shi Otomi: 50 Ninja/Ninjistu/GW Stalker My other characters
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Originally Posted by EmpireForgotten
This might be the worst suggestion ever.
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Here's some of the worst ideas ever: (darn you internet)
1. The Hawaii Chair.
The picture (below) doesn't show the pure epic-failure of this item.
I can see the office workers typing "zzshlnafdf" instead of "TPS report" whilst using this chair.
I recommend watching the youtube clip of it in action: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9_am...ayer_embedded#
2. The sideways bike
Yes. You ride a bike, sideways. I foresee lots of spills.
Here's another youtube clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOy_u...layer_embedded
3. The "Helmet with a gun mounted upon it".
Someone drew up plans last century for this new war device.
I hope they never tested it. Guinea pig would have one hell of a migraine.
4. Some sort of submersible armor design.
I think the picture speaks for itself.
Carefully take note of the location of the propeller. You wouldn't want to get excited whilst swimming...
5. The curved gun barrel.
Oh lordy...
6. Weasel Coffee.
Yep, you read that description on the bag just right.
Yes, it says "Picked and regurgitated by a weasel".
Mmmmm sounds tasty.
7. The bacon beer mug.
An example when mixing two different types of awesome is a bad thing.
8. The USB beer stick.
Beer is good. USB's are good.
But hot beer is gross, getting caught drinking at work is not good, and not having a decent sized beer to drink is even worse.
9. Catmew.
It's supposed to meow and scare mice away.
Seriously. Why not just get a real cat, or some mice traps...
Unless you like hearing the miew sound 10 times per minute. Or pissing off your household.
10. The fire alarm box that discourages pranksters.
Sure it discourages pranksters, along with anyone with half a braincell from ever wanting to use it.
11. The gerbil shirt.
With this device, you can take your pet gerbil for a walk with you, and look like the totally kewlest kid on the block.
12. The baby cage.
So your baby can play outside, inside the cage. Whilst hanging above the street from the 3rd floor of your building.
[note to self -- This further proves my theory that some people should not be allowed to reproduce. Ever.]
13. The segway.
The pictures say it all.
Apparently it sells for $5000.
14. 'Dog rides comfortably in sack on runningboard'
WTF. Seriously WTF.
Poor dog.
15. The poo loo.
Yes, its a toilet. Made completely out of your poo.
16. This pair of fools and their exercise method.
17. The exhaust jack.
Just don't over inflate it. Nor be near the car if the ball ever bursts.
18. Some sort of baby harness.
Yes, you are seeing that right, they are ice skating.
19. The Peekaru.
Picture speaks for itself.
20. Various bizarre inventions.
- Whoever thought the baby mop would work, doesn't understand the destructive force of a toddler.
- I now see a new meaning for "man boobs".
- I do like the head pillow, wish I had one for use at work.
And lastly........ for those yearning to see another stupid invention youtube video, then check out this link:
http://current.com/items/91251943_yo...inventions.htm
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
I was thrilled with the Science pack cuz I finally got payback on the creepy guy that kept trying to ERP with my tween heroine, by hitting the costume change and turning into a 10' tall monstrous escaped prisoner and telling him, "You gots a real purty mouf, now bendover and squeal like a pig fo yo daddy, cuz you my little puppy now!" Haven't seen him since.
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To the OP - suggesting stuff is good and I welcome that.
However, melee archetypes fight, in, well, melee. As in arms length. Not ranged.
If you really want to play ranged and with weapons, try a blaster, defender, corrupter, mastermind or spider.
I notice you really seem to want defense as a secondary. If so, roll a spider (villain epic) they have nice defense powers to boot.
If however you continue to insist on scrappers with guns, then I will agree with Techbot Alpha, and raise the facepalm, in that this thread will need even more facepalm.