Speculation: When will the server merge happen?
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Posted on: 2010-01-10 14:32 in Suggestions and Ideas
/e gets popcorn lol
server merger threads have been a common occurrance for the last 6 months or so. the superleader for sg's has nothing to do with a server merger and has everything to do with making supports job easier by making it so that any problems within an sg that need to go to support are done by 1 person instead of getting several of the same thinbg from the same group.
server transfers were done like this this time because of a problem that was occurring with transfers(?) to begin with since mid summer or so.
as for less servers but more populated, i know several people who are happy being on a not so populated server.
i don't foresee any server mergers for about the next 18-24 months or so but i do see a merging together of the EU and NA servers comming.
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Yup. Took the words right out of my mouth.| This is all pure thoery on my part. |
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| If this has been covered already, please post a link. I cant seem to get the forum search function to work for me. |
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| But, it seems obvious to me that a server merge or consolidation is on the way. |
as much as i doubt this as being more than mere theory and speculation, i would actualy like such a thing to happen.... would change up alot of SG memberships and such and add more players on whatever server....
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Server merges will happen when all of the following criteria are met:|
Originally Posted by TonyV
I keep seeing posts about how CoH is hemorrhaging subscribers. I keep seeing replies about how no, it's not. Posts about how the city is dead. Posts about how no, people are in instanced missions. So it got me to thinking about how we can tell how CoH is really doing, something objective to look at and judge.
As most of you know, NCsoft stopped publishing subscriber numbers a while back. But they do still publish their sales in their quarterly earnings statements. Really, these numbers are a lot more important than subscriber numbers. After all, a game can be wildly successful with a low subscriber base, or wildly unprofitable with a high one. Ultimately, "Is this making us money?" is probably the best judge of whether a company will continue to invest in a game. SO... With no further ado, here is your chart. Yes, it's small and hard to read. Click on it to see the full-sized version.  Note that I've put labels across the top indicating when each issue release has it, as well as a few of the competitors (WoW: Burning Crusade, WoW: Wrath of the Lich King, and Champions Online). |
*When subscription numbers sharply plummet.
*When the Devs are willing for large chunks of people to lose thier character and SG names due to multiple people sharing them.
*When the Devs wish to send the signal to the gaming world that you should not come play this game and that it is dying. (And as evidenced by the chart above, it doesn't look dying to me.)
In other words, NO.
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Originally Posted by Fury Flechette
I'm not going to post the default Memphis Bill answer to this post, but someone probably will. That should tell you something if there's already a boiler plate answer for this question/suggestion.
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How about no. 
Neener, neener, neener.
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Some folks prefer New York, some prefer Montana.|
Originally Posted by Swergen
Have fewer, but more populated, servers would only help retain players longer and encourage more new players to stay longer than just the trial account period.
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The only change I would make would be to change the server selection screen.
Put three little markers on the screen.
Right at the top: "Server you were last on---->"
Second from the top "Server with fewest players online right now--->"
Bottom: "Server with most players online right now---->"
Folks that like being surrounded by other players (at the cost of lagginess, potentially being locked out during special events, etc.) can feel free to do thier own server merge.
Others prefer a less-populated server. And even on what you call a "dead server", there is still teaming. Not that teaming is essential in this game.
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Here's one: http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showt...t=server+merge|
Originally Posted by Swergen
Let me preface by saying I have no inside information. This is all pure thoery on my part. If this has been covered already, please post a link. I cant seem to get the forum search function to work for me.
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Got it by clicking "Search", typing in "Server Merge" and hitting "Go".
Not sure why the Search function isn't working for you.
BONUS!!: Memphis_Bill's famous Cut-n'-paste is in there on page 1.
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When they introduced the new "Supreme Leader" rank for supergroups, alot of folks were left scratching thier heads. From the player standpoint, there was no real reason to do it. It wasnt something that the players had been clamoring for or really seemed to need. (Granted, CoH dropping stuff on the players out of the blue is nothing new.) There was a very vague reasoning given by the Dev staff for the change, but it all seemed sorta not needed. There was some players that weren't happy with the socio-political ramifications, but most folks just sorta shrugged and moved on. Then winter comes along and the dev's give free server swaps through the end of January. This made me a little suspicious. Folks were happy to be able to server hop for free during the holidays and folks are having fun. Then there is the issue of supergroups. This is where the "supreme leader" comes into play. That new role makes the moving of SG's from one sever to another much more feasable. The devs let everyone know when moving day is. When M-day arrives, everyone but the "supreme leader" gets booted out of the SG. The SG gets moved to whicher server the "supreme leader" moves too. Then the "supreme leader" simply re-invites all the members that show up on the new server. |
The Supreme Leader thing is much ado about nothing if he/she simply gives the same permissions to the next tier below.
The free server transfers was a gift for the holidays.
Putting the two together like this comes across as a huge leap and an attempt to stir the pot over nothing.
And if servers would be merged, why would the SG's need to be split? If everyone on Closing-Server is going to be tossed onto Designated-Recipient-Server, then this would just be unneeded chaos, further sabotaging the game.
I don't know what people think of the Devs sometimes, but I'm pretty sure that they don't sit around all day wondering "Hmmm.......what can I do to stop my paychecks from coming in...?"
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Originally Posted by Swergen
When they introduced the new "Supreme Leader" rank for supergroups, alot of folks were left scratching thier heads. From the player standpoint, there was no real reason to do it. It wasnt something that the players had been clamoring for or really seemed to need. (Granted, CoH dropping stuff on the players out of the blue is nothing new.) There was a very vague reasoning given by the Dev staff for the change, but it all seemed sorta not needed. There was some players that weren't happy with the socio-political ramifications, but most folks just sorta shrugged and moved on.
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There was nothing vague about the devs reasoning. They were quite specific and clear about why they created the SL position. Players were harassing Customer Service and demanding that they get involved with settling petty arguments between players in the same SG's. So they made the SL position and stated flat out the the SL is the defacto leader and owner of an SG. Customer Service would no longer respond to any requests for them to intervene.
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| Then winter comes along and the dev's give free server swaps through the end of January. This made me a little suspicious. Folks were happy to be able to server hop for free during the holidays and folks are having fun. |
Yeah there has to be a sinister motive than the simple explanation that the devs are aware that their players have a multitude of alts and a short period of free server transfers would give everyone that's interested a chance to do some rearranging to make room for the characters they will want to make on their favorite servers when Going Rogue gets released.
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| But, I think there is more to this. After the end of January, the devs can see which of the lower end servers get even more depopulated. The way CoH is set up. Any kind of mandatory server move is gonna be kinda hectic. Especially with character names and super groups involved. The free server swapping through the holidays alleviates much of the headache as many of the players handle it themselves. So, when a server consolidation does take place. Fewer players to move off the dead servers. |
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| Then there is the issue of supergroups. This is where the "supreme leader" comes into play. That new role makes the moving of SG's from one sever to another much more feasable. The devs let everyone know when moving day is. When M-day arrives, everyone but the "supreme leader" gets booted out of the SG. The SG gets moved to whicher server the "supreme leader" moves too. Then the "supreme leader" simply re-invites all the members that show up on the new server. |
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Now, I dont think a server consolidation would be a bad thing for the game. Quite the opposite. Have fewer, but more populated, servers would only help retain players longer and encourage more new players to stay longer than just the trail account period. Just some insane thoughts and paranoia. Return to your regularly scheduled madness. |
If by "server consolidation" you mean giving the EU players and NA players full access to each others servers thus increasing the number of servers to 15 then yes server consolidation would be great for the game.
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Originally Posted by Swergen
[...] blah, blah, blah, server merge, blah, blah, blah [...]
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Whenever a post features a sentence starting with "it seems obvious to me," that is where I stop reading. It's like spotting a serious breech of logic, in that you can be sure that nothing after this point is going to be accurate by reason of false base assumption.
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Another point to remember, Sam, is that "I couldn't find it/nothing came up in/search didn't work" equates to "I didn't bother to actually click on the the search button located at the top of every forum."
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I'm running out of snark and beans to use on these threads. All I have to say is this:
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The servers will be merged on January 52nd, 2013.
You are now informed. Be prepared.
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it COULD have been to free up customer service folks form 'internal SG' matters like we were told at the time.
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Originally Posted by Swergen
When they introduced the new "Supreme Leader" rank for supergroups, alot of folks were left scratching thier heads. From the player standpoint, there was no real reason to do it.
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It seems obvious to me that merging servers is one of the worst things any MMO company could possibly do to their game. In fact, I think it's only beaten out by Star Wars Galaxies' "New Game Experience", and shutting the game down entirely.|
Originally Posted by Swergen
But, it seems obvious to me that a server merge or consolidation is on the way.
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Originally Posted by Swergen
When they introduced the new "Supreme Leader" rank for supergroups, alot of folks were left scratching thier heads. From the player standpoint, there was no real reason to do it. It wasnt something that the players had been clamoring for or really seemed to need. (Granted, CoH dropping stuff on the players out of the blue is nothing new.) There was a very vague reasoning given by the Dev staff for the change, but it all seemed sorta not needed. There was some players that weren't happy with the socio-political ramifications, but most folks just sorta shrugged and moved on.
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Originally Posted by Swergen
Then winter comes along and the dev's give free server swaps through the end of January.
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Originally Posted by Swergen
Now, I dont think a server consolidation would be a bad thing for the game.
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Originally Posted by Swergen
Just some insane thoughts and paranoia.
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You are correct that players did not request the Supreme Leader rank. The reason that it was implemented was for the benefit of the GMs and the NCSoft customer service team. Having a single clear leader for an SG makes it much easier for them to solve any petitions related to griefing in an SG.
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Originally Posted by Swergen
When they introduced the new "Supreme Leader" rank for supergroups, alot of folks were left scratching thier heads. From the player standpoint, there was no real reason to do it. It wasnt something that the players had been clamoring for or really seemed to need. (Granted, CoH dropping stuff on the players out of the blue is nothing new.) There was a very vague reasoning given by the Dev staff for the change, but it all seemed sorta not needed. There was some players that weren't happy with the socio-political ramifications, but most folks just sorta shrugged and moved on.
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*Sniff sniff*
So this is where that burning smell is coming from...
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That converts to the 21st of February, 2013 for those who can't do math.|
Originally Posted by Rush_Bolt
The servers will be merged on January 52nd, 2013.
You are now informed. Be prepared. |
Rush must be one of those folks who argues that February doesn't exist on account of the extra R that people forget, or that it isn't long enough to be a real month (like Pluto isn't large enough to be a real planet), and so ascribe to the 59-day January approach.
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Originally Posted by Thirty_Seven
That converts to the 21st of February, 2013 for those who can't do math.
Rush must be one of those folks who argues that February doesn't exist on account of the extra R that people forget, or that it isn't long enough to be a real month (like Pluto isn't large enough to be a real planet), and so ascribe to the 59-day January approach. |
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Originally Posted by Swergen
Let me preface by saying I have no inside information. This is all pure thoery on my part. If this has been covered already, please post a link. I cant seem to get the forum search function to work for me.
But, it seems obvious to me that a server merge or consolidation is on the way. I am just wondering if it will happen before or after Goin Rogue. When they introduced the new "Supreme Leader" rank for supergroups, alot of folks were left scratching thier heads. From the player standpoint, there was no real reason to do it. It wasnt something that the players had been clamoring for or really seemed to need. (Granted, CoH dropping stuff on the players out of the blue is nothing new.) There was a very vague reasoning given by the Dev staff for the change, but it all seemed sorta not needed. There was some players that weren't happy with the socio-political ramifications, but most folks just sorta shrugged and moved on. Then winter comes along and the dev's give free server swaps through the end of January. This made me a little suspicious. Folks were happy to be able to server hop for free during the holidays and folks are having fun. But, I think there is more to this. After the end of January, the devs can see which of the lower end servers get even more depopulated. The way CoH is set up. Any kind of mandatory server move is gonna be kinda hectic. Especially with character names and super groups involved. The free server swapping through the holidays alleviates much of the headache as many of the players handle it themselves. So, when a server consolidation does take place. Fewer players to move off the dead servers. Then there is the issue of supergroups. This is where the "supreme leader" comes into play. That new role makes the moving of SG's from one sever to another much more feasable. The devs let everyone know when moving day is. When M-day arrives, everyone but the "supreme leader" gets booted out of the SG. The SG gets moved to whicher server the "supreme leader" moves too. Then the "supreme leader" simply re-invites all the members that show up on the new server. Now, I dont think a server consolidation would be a bad thing for the game. Quite the opposite. Have fewer, but more populated, servers would only help retain players longer and encourage more new players to stay longer than just the trail account period. Just some insane thoughts and paranoia. Return to your regularly scheduled madness. |
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That converts to the 21st of February, 2013 for those who can't do math.
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Oh wait. That's not what I meant.
OMG! Feb. 21st is my birthday! I can haz server merge?
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What, the whole of February? How did you manage that?
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What, the whole of February? How did you manage that?
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Let me preface by saying I have no inside information. This is all pure thoery on my part. If this has been covered already, please post a link. I cant seem to get the forum search function to work for me.
But, it seems obvious to me that a server merge or consolidation is on the way. I am just wondering if it will happen before or after Goin Rogue.
When they introduced the new "Supreme Leader" rank for supergroups, alot of folks were left scratching thier heads. From the player standpoint, there was no real reason to do it. It wasnt something that the players had been clamoring for or really seemed to need. (Granted, CoH dropping stuff on the players out of the blue is nothing new.) There was a very vague reasoning given by the Dev staff for the change, but it all seemed sorta not needed. There was some players that weren't happy with the socio-political ramifications, but most folks just sorta shrugged and moved on.
Then winter comes along and the dev's give free server swaps through the end of January. This made me a little suspicious. Folks were happy to be able to server hop for free during the holidays and folks are having fun.
But, I think there is more to this. After the end of January, the devs can see which of the lower end servers get even more depopulated. The way CoH is set up. Any kind of mandatory server move is gonna be kinda hectic. Especially with character names and super groups involved. The free server swapping through the holidays alleviates much of the headache as many of the players handle it themselves. So, when a server consolidation does take place. Fewer players to move off the dead servers.
Then there is the issue of supergroups. This is where the "supreme leader" comes into play. That new role makes the moving of SG's from one sever to another much more feasable. The devs let everyone know when moving day is. When M-day arrives, everyone but the "supreme leader" gets booted out of the SG. The SG gets moved to whicher server the "supreme leader" moves too. Then the "supreme leader" simply re-invites all the members that show up on the new server.
Now, I dont think a server consolidation would be a bad thing for the game. Quite the opposite. Have fewer, but more populated, servers would only help retain players longer and encourage more new players to stay longer than just the trail account period.
Just some insane thoughts and paranoia. Return to your regularly scheduled madness.