Sure. Why not.
In it's previous incarnation (Recharge in the 10 minute range?) the only benefit in the low levels was that by the time I had my Endurance issues taken care of (Stamina, better slotting, etc.) I had a full set of binds and macros on that character.
Since I had nothing better to do between battles than sit there thinking of clever sayings or handy things to have bound.
Great idea. I don't see any reason why rest isn't more of a toggle anyway.
because silly, then you would get to 50 to fast... /endsarcasm
no reason why the recharce can't be gotten rid of on rest. /signed
In Aion, there wasn't a cooldown on resting. Although, the recovery rate was much slower.
Granted, CoH =/= Aion.
Still, something much shorter would be ideal. Maybe not rechargeless, but maybe a one-minute cooldown? If having it recharge too quickly was an issue, it could just be immune to recharge rate boosts.
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You need Rest most at the low levels...and that is when you have less mitigation, less health/regen and recovery...Meh.
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Huh... It's refreshing to see this idea get such a positive reaction, *** I'll shut my yap about the past and just agree with this wholeheartedly.
As far as I'm concerned, the time taken to actually get out of combat, find a safe spot, activate the power and wait out the full recovery time is limitation enough. I have no problem with it being rechargeless, or at least on a much shorter recharge on the order of a minute.
And it's true what people have said - the low levels are when you need Rest the most, and they are simultaneously the time when you'll have it available the least often, thanks to Training recharge reducers helping somewhere between bugger and all.
I know 9Dragons had Meditation which you could activate at any time, anywhere, and had no recharge penalty. However, once you started meditating, you could not stop until you were fully recovered, and being attacked while meditating gave you spiritual wounds which cut into your total mana pool until they were healed. Our Rest is even more dangerous, since it gets you KILLED, so I see no reason not to let use use its convenience more often if it came with horrible danger more often in tow.
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I don't see any reason why rest isn't more of a toggle anyway.
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Rest is a toggle.
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I agree with this. Reduce the recharge on Rest, lower the regen/recovery rate to compensate.
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Ya know, I think you've now corrected me three times on the forums. That's way too many times for a perfectionist like myself.
Good catch.
Ok, it would be nice if it toggled like the the three travel powers (teleport doesn't) and sprint and a few others.
So, I still like the idea.
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What? You don't have people beating on you when you sleep? >.>
Sounds good to me. Maybe give it a 15-20 second recharge? I'm not sure what would be abusable about giving it a 0 second recharge, but I'm sure soemone will think of something so I'd say don't eliminate the recharge entirely .
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Totally /signed. Not only does this massively improve the low levels, but it also helps make Stamina-less builds more viable, which is always a good thing.
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I'm down with this. Give it a 30 second enhanceable recharge or something like that and be done with it. It would make enduring the early game a lot easier, that's for sure.
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It does feel a little non-sensicle to have a recharge for rest as it is.
"I've been badly injured and exhausted, but I only sat down a minute ago, I better just stand around for a couple more minutes so people don't think I'm lazy"
A minute recharge is around about the same time it takes for someone's health and endurance to drop low enough to warrant it per mob.
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It does feel a little non-sensicle to have a recharge for rest as it is.
"I've been badly injured and exhausted, but I only sat down a minute ago, I better just stand around for a couple more minutes so people don't think I'm lazy" A minute recharge is around about the same time it takes for someone's health and endurance to drop low enough to warrant it per mob. /signed |
Also, given the HUGE penalties on you for resting (-1000% res to all, -silly% def, all that stuff), it's a tactical risk enough as it is.
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I still think that if the recharge on Rest is lowered, the recovery/regen rate should be as well.
Either that, or give it an AoE taunt effect. It'd be something along the lines of "Hey, this moron is sitting down to take a break right next to me. Screw this big guy, I'm gonna kick this guy's butt!". This would help prevent it from being used in battle in addition to the massive defense/resist debuff.
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Shouldn't Rest get some love?
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Now, when you all gang up on me for saying so, make sure to form two lines, one for left handers, one for right handers. If you people need Rest that bad, I figured you'd need instructions on how to optimize your group beatdowns.
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I still think that if the recharge on Rest is lowered, the recovery/regen rate should be as well.
Either that, or give it an AoE taunt effect. It'd be something along the lines of "Hey, this moron is sitting down to take a break right next to me. Screw this big guy, I'm gonna kick this guy's butt!". This would help prevent it from being used in battle in addition to the massive defense/resist debuff. |
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It's always seemed to me like it does have some kind of aggro generation effect. I know that resting anywhere within sight of engaged enemies, even if they're being actively attacked, seems to be a good recipe for getting shot.
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Either that, or give it an AoE taunt effect. It'd be something along the lines of "Hey, this moron is sitting down to take a break right next to me. Screw this big guy, I'm gonna kick this guy's butt!". This would help prevent it from being used in battle in addition to the massive defense/resist debuff.
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Having Vengeance and Fallout slotted for recharge means never having to say you're sorry.
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It already roots you and has big -Res and -Def. I think that's enough.
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What it says on the title. I'm still not sure why Rest has such a draconian recharge rate. At low levels, it's the only reliable means of recovering your health and endurance and both the long activation time and total survivability impact already ensure it can't be used inside combat itself. The only effect the current recharge rate has is needlessly increasing downtime between battles.
What's the general opinion? Shouldn't Rest get some love?