PvP drop rate WAI?

So when PvP drops are selling for more then inf cap off market you would think that means there are some really greedy ppl and others that just like the 'Buy it Now" button... Maybe, just maybe, the drop rate for these needs to get looked at.


(just for reference here is a few ppl asking for a PvP drop for more then the inf cap)
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=204504

I could be totally wrong though.

As I understand it, yes, PvP IOs really are the way the devs want them to be. As I recall, they even made a few rather specific changes to adjust them to this point.

I have a couple of Pvp recipe but none of the ones that go for billions.

I should look up the stats of drop rate and burn time I need and start looking at trying to get a few more again.

Not much of a constructive answer, but I have a hearty "Ell Oh Ell" for all those people who have crapped on my posts re: a legitimate black market emerging for items that exceed the inf. cap.

I said it would happen. So did most Marketeers. Now, that TP protection IO is selling for 3.8B off the Market. A cap isn't going to magically reduce demand.

For the OP, yes, apparently this is WAI for now.

Is it PvP drop rate WAI? Or is it defense bonuses, IOs, and ubiquitous soft-capping WAI?

The drop rate has resulted in perfectly viable price ranges for a great many PvP IOs. The one IO that adds 3% defense to all is the anomaly-- and this speaks more about demand than supply. Demand is a byproduct of a skewed defense system in relation to IOs.

I got a crapload of -neg rep for stating this in a few threads. I know rep is meaningless, but for me it underscored how many people lived in the "No Effort-Want Vaccum."

"Hi, I don't play this game very much, and I don't put any effort into it. Despite this, I feel I deserve to be rewarded more than people who actually do play, and do put effort into it. Also, I am impatient and don't understand grade school economics."

Oh, and 3.8B is conservative. I've heard as high as 5B. But also like we talked about, I'm thinking of trying to snag one of those cheap-*** 2B on the market so I can flip it for a meer 4B off-market. Why, only a 2x profit? How shabby.

You guys seem to be missing the whole point of PvP enhancements, they were created as a way to bribe people into playing PvP more. Do you really believe that anyone is going to play knowing that the ratio is around 100:1 and that is a lower average number? No, you're fooling yourself thinking that anyone would.

The way the drops were before they raised them were perfect, prices for the panacea proc and gladiator's armor were hovering around 5-700 million, but once the supply was decreased the prices skyrocketed.

Unfortunately there isn't enough people acting cohesively in favor of an increased drop rate in order for the developers to even consider lowering the ratio.

Is there a reason PvPers or really anyone isn't organizing 64 man free-for-all kill fests?

OOOH, Smurph. Lets set that up!

I don't care about PvP recipes and don't want to PvP. I am simply curious why 64 man free-for-alls aren't organized.

With the price at 4B and rising (go go poor communication/lack of last five sales) I'm going to have to get into this game.

Someone check my math on this.

48 PVP recipes. If I can kill someone in 60 seconds, which I don't know about, that's 100 minutes per recipe.

If we say three recipes are in the billion range (the Panacea unique, the Gladiator's Armor unique, and one other that I don't know?) then you have to get, on average, 16 PVP recipes to get one of them.

1600/60= just under 27 hours of PVP'ing to get a 1-5 billion inf bonanza.

Sounds like a good rate of return- if it's something you'd enjoy doing anyway.

*Looks at 2B bid on +3 Def PvP IO that only took 3 days to come through*

*Giggles*

EDIT: Getting 2B with my Elec/Shield scrapper is about 20-30 hours. With no market interaction at all (raw inf from vendors + mob defeat inf) it's around 80 hours or so. So really, I'm not surprised the very desirable IOs are going for more than the market cap.

Bought two "tickets" to the Gladiator Lottery. 2B a pop for a chance to get 3B+ or more sounds like a solid investment for influence that's just sitting around.

Last checked there were 174 bidders. Now there are 176.

The PvP recipe drop rate in conjunction with the cool down timer in it's current state is easily one of the more ridiculous things I've seen in my time in CoH.

PvP mechanics in this game are very "different" than in any other I've ever seen. That may be a good thing to some, and it may be a bad thing to others. Personally I don't think it's either; however I currently see no incentive in PvPing other than bragging rights.

So to sum it up, yes I think the drop rates need to be looked at, or the timer removed, nit because of the off market pricing, but because I think this will encourage more players to be able to at least stomach PvPing.