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Wow! Great work, BaBs! Will this be up on test any time soon?
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Originally Posted by BackAlleyBrawler
Good news everyone, I think I have figured out a way to bypass weapon redraw in combat. I've tested it with with various non-weapon powers or weapon powers from completely different sets, and it seems to work out. This means that you will be able to use any power in a chain with a weapon power, and not have to redraw the weapon...even completely different weapon powers. It will just instantly appear in your hand and play the attack animation. If you're not in combat, out of range, or have no target selected...then it will play a non-rooted, interruptible version of the weapon draw animations.
Some minor issues with consistently playing a weapon draw animation outside of combat, or the weapon draw animation playing when it really does need to...but that shouldn't interfere with combat. Unfortunately, I'm not going to be able to get to every powerset at once, but I was able to get the following powersets done.
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Originally Posted by BackAlleyBrawler
Good news everyone, I think I have figured out a way to bypass weapon redraw in combat. I've tested it with with various non-weapon powers or weapon powers from completely different sets, and it seems to work out. This means that you will be able to use any power in a chain with a weapon power, and not have to redraw the weapon...even completely different weapon powers. It will just instantly appear in your hand and play the attack animation. If you're not in combat, out of range, or have no target selected...then it will play a non-rooted, interruptible version of the weapon draw animations.
Some minor issues with consistently playing a weapon draw animation outside of combat, or the weapon draw animation playing when it really does need to...but that shouldn't interfere with combat. Unfortunately, I'm not going to be able to get to every powerset at once, but I was able to get the following powersets done.
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Very interesting. i wonder how that will look in action?
For a second when i read the post i suspected BAB was joking since weapon redraw has been a gripe since launch. Having gotten past that i must admit this is unexpected and great news.
Some would point to the elimination of weapon redraw as continuing evidence that we have the most awesome and responsive team of Devs in any MMO. Those people are not on my Christmas card list.*
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Originally Posted by BackAlleyBrawler
Good news everyone, I think I have figured out a way to bypass weapon redraw in combat. I've tested it with with various non-weapon powers or weapon powers from completely different sets, and it seems to work out. This means that you will be able to use any power in a chain with a weapon power, and not have to redraw the weapon...even completely different weapon powers. It will just instantly appear in your hand and play the attack animation. If you're not in combat, out of range, or have no target selected...then it will play a non-rooted, interruptible version of the weapon draw animations.
Some minor issues with consistently playing a weapon draw animation outside of combat, or the weapon draw animation playing when it really does need to...but that shouldn't interfere with combat. Unfortunately, I'm not going to be able to get to every powerset at once, but I was able to get the following powersets done.
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I can't help but notice that list excludes Katanas... 
I kid, I kid... I don't really care. I've never really seen much of a problem with weapon redraw, and I've been playing Katana/SR since the game was in beta. I'm fine with it remaining as-is for a few months. 
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Originally Posted by BackAlleyBrawler
Good news everyone, I think I have figured out a way to bypass weapon redraw in combat. I've tested it with with various non-weapon powers or weapon powers from completely different sets, and it seems to work out. This means that you will be able to use any power in a chain with a weapon power, and not have to redraw the weapon...even completely different weapon powers. It will just instantly appear in your hand and play the attack animation. If you're not in combat, out of range, or have no target selected...then it will play a non-rooted, interruptible version of the weapon draw animations.
Some minor issues with consistently playing a weapon draw animation outside of combat, or the weapon draw animation playing when it really does need to...but that shouldn't interfere with combat. Unfortunately, I'm not going to be able to get to every powerset at once, but I was able to get the following powersets done.
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) several of the sets there seem like ones where redraw would be a major hassle. In particular the PPPs, Munitions and Trick Arrow are all annoying if you don't have the appropriate other set, and melee sets are a good choice for the more clicky defense sets (i.e. regen).
Awesome BAB, look forward to seeing what it all looks like.
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Holy crap, that's amazingly awesome, and yet another thing I never imagined would happen! Are... are you pulling our legs? I can seriously make a Claws/Regen or Broadsword/DA and not feel penalized for choosing a clicky powerset over a non-clicky one like Willpower? I can use Venom Grenade on my Bane without having to draw the gun, and then redraw the mace?|
Originally Posted by BackAlleyBrawler
Good news everyone, I think I have figured out a way to bypass weapon redraw in combat. I've tested it with with various non-weapon powers or weapon powers from completely different sets, and it seems to work out. This means that you will be able to use any power in a chain with a weapon power, and not have to redraw the weapon...even completely different weapon powers. It will just instantly appear in your hand and play the attack animation. If you're not in combat, out of range, or have no target selected...then it will play a non-rooted, interruptible version of the weapon draw animations.
Some minor issues with consistently playing a weapon draw animation outside of combat, or the weapon draw animation playing when it really does need to...but that shouldn't interfere with combat. Unfortunately, I'm not going to be able to get to every powerset at once, but I was able to get the following powersets done.
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This feels wrong somehow. I've had awesome news repeatedly over the last two days. This can't be real.
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WHY is the WORLD are you people DISTROYING the animations?.. the weapon draw is part of the freeking Look, and i just can't imagin WHY the heck a game that is so great on looks even considers cutting out the animations, or make them look crappy by cutting out the weapon draw...
if you want to now draw a weapon DON"T freeking pick powers that use a freeking Weapon, GAWD
stop trying to be a speed clicker and use your freeking mind, tachtices and let us have the weapon draw and movement lock down during the draw, Re-Draw is good too, if you devs want to make these people that complain happy just put up a kinda minor defensive buff boost while redraw or something, or make the blast a few cliclks harder hitting after the draw, or maybe a acc boost for a few seconds
Stop distroying the game for a Body count in PVP
that's another thing, look at the powers themseves, not all powers should be equal, and targeting should not be automatic epecually in PVP
when one tleports drop targeting, maybe add a laggy targeting system to when someone speeds past, harder to hit a moveing target, but the teleport is my bigest concern, when one ports they shoudl be off the other person target screen, and it should interupt the attacks, ( if I am targeted, and I port, the next attack they tryed would cancel becuse I'm not there)
make the Powers the focus, Not the body count, and Stick it to the PVP'ers make them freekign Work for it.
The above post is so full of win.
I might actually play a dual-wielding scrapper or brute again.
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Huh...
I have to admit, I don't really care for the idea of getting rid of the redraw animations... I'd like to see the ability to keep a weapon out when using other non-weapon attacks (But I understand how this is an arduous task and don't expect to see it happen... if it ever does... cool/yay/hi-5)... but... making it so that my character puts away the weapon to fire off a different sort of attack and then just has that weapon reappear... is less appealing to me than what we currently have.
I honestly never understood that, when people were talking about "redraw issues" they were referring to the animation of redraw... I thought they were just sick of their weapon being put away for other attacks.
Hrm... Just posting my opinion that the aesthetic of the redraw is one I enjoy and would likely find unappealing with insta-magic-poof-reappearing weapons.
Whatever my opinion is worth, it's posted, at least!
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Originally Posted by Darkelven_Vixxin
if you want to now draw a weapon DON"T freeking pick powers that use a freeking Weapon, GAWD
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Losing redraw helps RP aspects more than forcing a subpar character on anyone who wants particular power combinations.
Also: how hilarious that the only people who want to counter-gripe about weapon redraw only come out when BABs announces he can fix it.
Great work BaB, finally I'll be able to play my Ice/Axe tank again...or at least one day...
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More specificity here would help. Which power exactly are you using that allows you to slide around?
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I like it and for the people saying it wont look right yada yada well how does pulling a gun/sword/bow out of thin air look right.
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I can already see this causing additional Oil Slick Arrow problems.
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Originally Posted by Lemur Lad
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Originally Posted by Darkelven_Vixxin
WHY is the WORLD are you people DISTROYING the animations?.. the weapon draw is part of the freeking Look, and i just can't imagin WHY the heck a game that is so great on looks even considers cutting out the animations, or make them look crappy by cutting out the weapon draw...
if you want to now draw a weapon DON"T freeking pick powers that use a freeking Weapon, GAWD stop trying to be a speed clicker and use your freeking mind, tachtices and let us have the weapon draw and movement lock down during the draw, Re-Draw is good too, if you devs want to make these people that complain happy just put up a kinda minor defensive buff boost while redraw or something, or make the blast a few cliclks harder hitting after the draw, or maybe a acc boost for a few seconds Stop distroying the game for a Body count in PVP that's another thing, look at the powers themseves, not all powers should be equal, and targeting should not be automatic epecually in PVP when one tleports drop targeting, maybe add a laggy targeting system to when someone speeds past, harder to hit a moveing target, but the teleport is my bigest concern, when one ports they shoudl be off the other person target screen, and it should interupt the attacks, ( if I am targeted, and I port, the next attack they tryed would cancel becuse I'm not there) make the Powers the focus, Not the body count, and Stick it to the PVP'ers make them freekign Work for it. |
Voila. A draw animation. Best of both worlds.
My Regen scrapper, on the other hand, will be enjoying the fact that she no longer has to wait an extra second after popping her heal because she's too dumb to regenerate with a broadsword in her hand for some reason. ?_?
Oh, and, I don't PvP.
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Originally Posted by BackAlleyBrawler
Good news everyone, I think I have figured out a way to bypass weapon redraw in combat. I've tested it with with various non-weapon powers or weapon powers from completely different sets, and it seems to work out. This means that you will be able to use any power in a chain with a weapon power, and not have to redraw the weapon...even completely different weapon powers. It will just instantly appear in your hand and play the attack animation. If you're not in combat, out of range, or have no target selected...then it will play a non-rooted, interruptible version of the weapon draw animations.
Some minor issues with consistently playing a weapon draw animation outside of combat, or the weapon draw animation playing when it really does need to...but that shouldn't interfere with combat. Unfortunately, I'm not going to be able to get to every powerset at once, but I was able to get the following powersets done.
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1: FARKING AWESOME.
2: Was this some kind of sudden epiphany? What pointed you to a way to fix this?
3: What IS the fix?
4: There's going to be a bunch of weapon powersets that I'm going to have to revisit because of this.
Well played, man. Seriously well played.
EDIT: hrrrmmm.... is this going to force Castle to revisit all the sets?
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