Bring back rep comments!
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Posted on: 2009-11-14 09:41 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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Yes, the rep system certainly did provide an outlet for rude comments to be left in anonymity with no outlet for response or discussion. It did so very well. So I'm very glad it's gone. I'd be even more glad if they got rid of the pointless dots too.
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Originally Posted by Nethergoat
PMs are quite a bit more 'formal' and less useful for conveying off the cuff opinions about individual posts than the rep system was.
The rep system did what it was designed for much better than any other forum system. |
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Good Lord! Ladies, Gentlemen, and Catgirls I'm beginning to think Mr. NoPants was right. If the 6-7 of you who have regularly posted in this thread are any example of the forum population at large then I really do think the Moderators were just overwhelmed. I'm not saying you eat kittens when no one can see you do it. I am saying that the sheer amount of venom directed at your fellow human beings in this thread would be enough to kill 10,000 kittens. My cruisers can't repel kittens of that magnitude!
This thread has devolved into an arguement over how a real man solves a problem. That was never the point of this. My issue has been and will likely for the rest of life be with the abusive trolls and thinskinned snowflakes. (thanks for that term Forbin)
Mods please lock this thread before it devolves further. Sorry to bother you.
p.s. I still want my rep comments (good or bad) back.
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I have always felt that the devs should 1 time a month, post a list of people that got 3day/perma bans. Not the actual names or anything identifiable, but a list that says:|
Originally Posted by Mr. NoPants
Public ban list would be more effective ^_^.
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25 people given 3 day bans for excessive use of profanity ingame
3 people given perma bans for repeat offense
15 accounts banned for RMT activity
That would let people know that yes, they are policing without violating anyones privacy.
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That's not as hilarious as names though.
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Originally Posted by hedgehog_NA
I have always felt that the devs should 1 time a month, post a list of people that got 3day/perma bans. Not the actual names or anything identifiable, but a list that says:
25 people given 3 day bans for excessive use of profanity ingame 3 people given perma bans for repeat offense 15 accounts banned for RMT activity That would let people know that yes, they are policing without violating anyones privacy. |
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No one is forcing you to read it. You knew what was in the thread before you clicked on it.
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Originally Posted by Impish Kat
This thread is full of the same people, spouting the same arguments.
Old arguments are old. The mods made a decision. Deal. |
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Originally Posted by Stormbird
Yes, the rep system certainly did provide an outlet for rude comments to be left in anonymity with no outlet for response or discussion.
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You had an outlet for response- replies in violation of forum standards could be reported.
I received vastly more positive than negative rep & comments. As one of the less diplomatic regulars, it makes me wonder to what lengths you'd have to go to get ONLY abusive comments and negative rep.
Perhaps the real issue so many people had with the system was that it shone a light on the overall quality of their contribution to the forum?
In which case it was neutered for doing its job too well.
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we're voicing our opinions.|
Originally Posted by Impish Kat
This thread is full of the same people, spouting the same arguments.
Old arguments are old. The mods made a decision. Deal. |
Deal.
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No one ever forced me to read my rep comments either. I knew they were in there when I deliberately clicked to open the User CP.|
Originally Posted by Blood Spectre
No one is forcing you to read it. You knew what was in the thread before you clicked on it.
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Hmmm.....a bad analogy, perhaps?
(It would have been a whole lot better to just have that the rep section of the User CP collapsed by default, but people would have just clicked one more time to open them and get thier rage on.)
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And those of us who were never asked when they turned on the idiotic system and forum game, had a right to complain and a right to like that they basically admitted that turning it on was a stupid mistake.
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Originally Posted by Nethergoat
PMs are quite a bit more 'formal' and less useful for conveying off the cuff opinions about individual posts than the rep system was.
The rep system did what it was designed for much better than any other forum system. Being as these are their forums, they can certainly do whatever they like with it. And those of us who enjoyed the system and found it useful are entitled to complain about their choices. |
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I would applaud that.
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Originally Posted by hedgehog_NA
I have always felt that the devs should 1 time a month, post a list of people that got 3day/perma bans. Not the actual names or anything identifiable, but a list that says:
25 people given 3 day bans for excessive use of profanity ingame 3 people given perma bans for repeat offense 15 accounts banned for RMT activity That would let people know that yes, they are policing without violating anyones privacy. |
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And I'm voicing mine that the system should have never been turned on in the first place, simply based on history.|
Originally Posted by Nethergoat
we're voicing our opinions.
Deal. |
Deal.
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Yep. I agree lock this nonsense now.|
Originally Posted by Crim_the_Cold
Good Lord! Ladies, Gentlemen, and Catgirls I'm beginning to think Mr. NoPants was right. If the 6-7 of you who have regularly posted in this thread are any example of the forum population at large then I really do think the Moderators were just overwhelmed. I'm not saying you eat kittens when no one can see you do it. I am saying that the sheer amount of venom directed at your fellow human beings in this thread would be enough to kill 10,000 kittens. My cruisers can't repel kittens of that magnitude!
This thread has devolved into an arguement over how a real man solves a problem. That was never the point of this. My issue has been and will likely for the rest of life be with the abusive trolls and thinskinned snowflakes. (thanks for that term Forbin) Mods please lock this thread before it devolves further. Sorry to bother you. p.s. I still want my rep comments (good or bad) back. |
P.S. the system never should have been started in the first place.
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And I'll go ahead and voice my opinion that you are wrong, and your stubborn repetition of the same point over and over again isn't really contributing to the discussion in any meaningful way. You disagree. We understand. We understood it several pages ago as well. We didn't find your position on the debate convincing then, and have not found it convincing with further echoes in subsequent posts.|
Originally Posted by Aura_Familia
And I'm voicing mine that the system should have never been turned on in the first place, simply based on history.
Deal. |
Deal.
I mean, in what universe do you live in anyway? They told us MONTHS in advance that a new and improved forum was coming, and that there would be changes. Nobody could have predicted what those exact changes were, certainly. However, you were given every reason to expect minor changes in the forum experience. What they delivered was a forum very much like the old one, with a few improvements. Which is exactly what they said they would do. And no, they were under no obligation to run the specific improvements by you first, sorry. That's not the way the Host/User relationship works on an internet forum.
So, yeah, yanno. Deal.
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Yep, you're right. Just like they are in no position to run it by any of you when the decide the original decision to include a system that they found didn't work, was a mistake.|
Originally Posted by Blood Spectre
And I'll go ahead and voice my opinion that you are wrong, and your stubborn repetition of the same point over and over again isn't really contributing to the discussion in any meaningful way. You disagree. We understand. We understood it several pages ago as well. We didn't find your position on the debate convincing then, and have not found it convincing with further echoes in subsequent posts.
Deal. I mean, in what universe do you live in anyway? They told us MONTHS in advance that a new and improved forum was coming, and that there would be changes. Nobody could have predicted what those exact changes were, certainly. However, you were given every reason to expect minor changes in the forum experience. What they delivered was a forum very much like the old one, with a few improvements. Which is exactly what they said they would do. And no, they were under no obligation to run the specific improvements by you first, sorry. That's not the way the Host/User relationship works on an internet forum. So, yeah, yanno. Deal. |
Deal.
Also very arguable that the rep system has been an improvement from a moderation standpoint.
So yeah, yanno. Deal.
EDIT: Just like folks allowed to repeatedly state their disagreement with the rep comments being turned off, folks on my side are allowed to repeatedly state their agreement with the mods decision.
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Dispari has more than enough credability, and certainly doesn't need to borrow any from you.
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Originally Posted by Dispari
Let's make a deal to stop saying deal. Deal?
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I ... concur
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Originally Posted by Dispari
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If I'd been addressing you, you might have a point.|
Originally Posted by Aura_Familia
And I'm voicing mine that the system should have never been turned on in the first place, simply based on history.
Deal. |
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Originally Posted by Nethergoat
If I'd been addressing you, you might have a point.
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I do now.
EDIT: Also that wasn't specifically addressed to you only. It was just the perfect jumping on point.
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Originally Posted by Aura_Familia
... they basically admitted that turning it on was a stupid mistake.
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That's not what happened. The rep system still works the exact same way it did. Viewing rep comments on a Users CP was turned off due to the fact that it was too easy for users to bypass the ignore function and those not wanting to even take part in the rep system were forced to do so. It had nothing to do with moderation as it's very easy to moderate rep comments and those leaving them.
We still would like to find a way to implement it so the comments are viewable however we will not do it unless we find a way for those not interested in it to turn it off.
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Originally Posted by Niviene
That's not what happened. The rep system still works the exact same way it did. Viewing rep comments on a Users CP was turned off due to the fact that it was too easy for users to bypass the ignore function and those not wanting to even take part in the rep system were forced to do so. It had nothing to do with moderation as it's very easy to moderate rep comments and those leaving them.
We still would like to find a way to implement it so the comments are viewable however we will not do it unless we find a way for those not interested in it to turn it off. |
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That would please me. Make it so.|
Originally Posted by Niviene
We still would like to find a way to implement it so the comments are viewable however we will not do it unless we find a way for those not interested in it to turn it off.
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I think this may have been the point Blood Spectre has been trying to make.
I guess the point was too hard to see through all the "you're so immature" statements.
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